We're gonna need a lot more compensation than a few free days

$40 MINIMUM for the game not to mention people who spent more for collectors.
$15 for a monthly subscription which nowadays is unheard of for a lot of games
Assuming everyone has school/work to survive? We can't play when we come home cuz queue times are 5 hours of waiting? OH and if you have to use the bathroom and you get a 2002 error and ur queue goes from 69 back to 5,600 because you didnt come back fast enough? Square Enix you should have made a few servers a long time ago to prepare for this knowing that Asmongold brought a shitton of people recently and the influx of players every expansion. Wish I never bought this game so I didnt have to feel like this. What else is there to play anyone?

**squint's at Main Class
Sage Lv 90** ....... little jealous but yes .... square fix this fast honestly terrfied when raids drop . _. ive seen que getting a little smaller when raids right back up they gone go.

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$40 MINIMUM for the game not to mention people who spent more for collectors.
$15 for a monthly subscription which nowadays is unheard of for a lot of games
Assuming everyone has school/work to survive? We can't play when we come home cuz queue times are 5 hours of waiting? OH and if you have to use the bathroom and you get a 2002 error and ur queue goes from 69 back to 5,600 because you didnt come back fast enough? Square Enix you should have made a few fucking servers a long time ago to prepare for this shit knowing that Asmongold brought a shitton of people recently and the influx of players every expansion. Wish I never bought this game so I didnt have to feel like this. What else is there to play anyone?

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A few things and this is not an attack or anything, just some counterpoints as it were. 15$ a month is actually kind of standard for mmo's and for a lot of other games with subscription or battle pass type systems.

I get the queue sucks, believe me, I do. As for servers, there is kind of a chip shortage at the moment due to covid, which just so happened to unluckily coincide with the.. let's be honest slow fall of WoW, so, an influx of players that honestly, wasn't expected, happened, let's be real, who actually would have pegged 2021 as the year wow began to hemorrhage players to a different MMO? It's a lot of seemingly unrelated things that have all clumped together to form one big server congestion.

Now, onto your question...what else is there to play, well, if you have a switch I recommend a nice pokemon diamond or pearl nuzlock run, if you have a PlayStation, bloodborne, spiderman, god of war, the list goes on for good titles there.

and for pc, Guardians of the galaxy is good for a few hours of distraction, it's pretty solid IMO, with fun gameplay, funny dialogue. Phasmophobia just got a nice new update as well. Warframe has the new war launching on the 15th, which should be interesting at the very least. if you like space flight sims, Elite dangerous can scratch that itch, if you seek an MMO, elder scrolls online is supposed to be pretty fun, it all depends on what type of game you are looking for, I can come up with a host of recommendations

Just go play the new Avengers game. Because projects like that is where your sub/expansion money is going.
Wonder what shitty black hole of a project this expansions sales will go towards..?

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Just go play the new Avengers game. Because projects like that is where your sub/expansion money is going.
Wonder what shitty black hole of a project this expansions sales will go towards..?

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:( I...I kind of liked the avengers game, yeah the actual live service bit was horrendously done, but the story segment was decent. though, I will say Crystal Dynamics while good at story-driven content, were not the devs to go to for a live service co-op game. Hopefully the addition of the old Marvel heroes devs can make a difference in the next year or so.

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Just go play the new Avengers game. Because projects like that is where your sub/expansion money is going.
Wonder what shitty black hole of a project this expansions sales will go towards..?

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Oh so glad you personally have a thumb on the company's gross earnings and expenditures.

I pay them about 45 dollars a month since have 2 accounts and pay for 9 retainers. I week that 6.0 been out only got to play maybe 6 hours from the queue time. Today at 4pm pst. the queue is 3894.

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Sage Lv 90

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So not only did this dude level 70 to 80, but also grinded through the story to be able to level to 90, in addition to whatever other stuff he did.

Well, I guess the 70-80 isn't that bad, since I've gotten most of the way there just playing an hour or two in the mornings, but...

SE has been more than generous with the time they've given us for free. We have several messages explaining things, and they even warned us all about what could and will go wrong at launch. I understand the frustration, but perhaps the time off from FFXIV might do you good, and you can come back feeling better when things have become more stable.

i'll looking into some of those ty. Guardians of the Galaxy seems fun actually

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Oh so glad you personally have a thumb on the company's gross earnings and expenditures.

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Square Enix issues public earnings reports.

Failed projects like Marvel's Avengers and Balan Wonderworld have actually caused the gaming section of the company to operate at a net loss periodically.

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**squint's at Main Class
Sage Lv 90** ....... little jealous but yes .... square fix this fast honestly terrfied when raids drop . _. ive seen que getting a little smaller when raids right back up they gone go.

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It gets pretty old with these 90's coming in here and complaining they've not been playing and demanding compensation when they're probably played more in the past week then they do in a month normally.

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So not only did this dude level 70 to 80, but also grinded through the story to be able to level to 90, in addition to whatever other stuff he did.

Well, I guess the 70-80 isn't that bad, since I've gotten most of the way there just playing an hour or two in the mornings, but...

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You can go to Bozjan, queue for Zadnor, and get into a "Z3" zone 3 group, where theres like 100+ people always on, and g from 70-80 in about 5 hours, and even faster if you already have a higher class for the EXP boost 50%

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It gets pretty old with these 90's coming in here and complaining they've not been playing and demanding compensation when they're probably played more in the past week then they do in a month normally.

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yeah im not allowed to be aggravated that i have to wait in queue for several hours just to play for a long period of time even if im tired and need a break knowing that if i leave its going to be hell to try and get back in

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Square Enix issues public earnings reports.

Failed projects like Marvel's Avengers and Balan Wonderworld have actually caused the gaming section of the company to operate at a net loss periodically.

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So that is viable proof right there that their earnings for FFxiv is spent fully digging holes for their other games and no profit is put back into improvements to those games that are earning them a far better profit margin?

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yeah im not allowed to be aggravated that i have to wait in queue for several hours just to play for a long period of time even if im tired and need a break knowing that if i leave its going to be hell to try and get back in

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I've been doing just that and you don't see me being unreasonable and have the audacity to ask for more free time and additional compenstaion when I've been playing a ton. Yes it's an inconvenience and certainly for those who HAVE NOT been playing but that doesn't appear to be the case for you.

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It gets pretty old with these 90's coming in here and complaining they've not been playing and demanding compensation when they're probably played more in the past week then they do in a month normally.

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Except your level doesn't make the argument invalid.

The queues as they are, are just plain unacceptable, period. Nobody wants to wait in a 6000 person queue because their internet messed up for 10 seconds and caused them to disconnect, same with people who are forced back from spot 300 to spot 9000 because they 202'd when they spent 5 minutes going to the bathroom and couldn't login on time.

Play time aside, we're all wasting time sitting and doing nothing but not able to leave the pc due to the random disconnects, and it's just unacceptable no matter where you are in the MSQ

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Except your level doesn't make the argument invalid.

The queues as they are, are just plain unacceptable, period. Nobody wants to wait in a 6000 person queue because their internet messed up for 10 seconds and caused them to disconnect, same with people who are forced back from spot 300 to spot 9000 because they 202'd when they spent 5 minutes going to the bathroom and couldn't login on time.

Play time aside, we're all wasting time sitting and doing nothing but not able to leave the pc due to the random disconnects, and it's just unacceptable no matter where you are in the MSQ

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Except this is an alt on Balmung. I have two level 90's on Siren and I've been playing a ton. I've just started another alt with main story and am beginning to level her rdm. And no one is praising the queues or the disconnects but to ask for compensation when you're been playing non stop is a bit over the top.

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Except this is an alt on Balmung. I have two level 90's on Siren and I've been playing a ton. I've just started another alt with main story and am beginning to level her rdm. And no one is praising the queues or the disconnects but to ask for compensation when you're been playing non stop is a bit over the top.

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I havent. If ive been playing nonstop i would have two lvl 90s on Siren and an alt on Balmung..... stones and glass houses. Dont pretend you dont have a lot of free time to wait through the massive queue times that i know for sure you've experienced..

The ques are what they are for now.
Deal with them...or don't.

You have every right to complain. And you are not wrong.

You should be thankful Yoshi P even allowed you play this work of art for a measly $65, it's easily worth 10 times that.

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So that is viable proof right there that their earnings for FFxiv is spent fully digging holes for their other games and no profit is put back into improvements to those games that are earning them a far better profit margin?

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FFXIV likely only sees a portion of its profits reinvested into the game. The majority of it likely goes elsewhere, and helping to fund or sustain projects that ultimately fail is part of that. It's pretty plainly apparent that there are failures in upper management that have lead to this debacle either way.