Running a full party of all 7 Scions plus me was remarkable. Never had a trial go so easily.
No messing up mechanics.
No healers botching it up
No Tanks forgetting any Stance or what not
No Derp-ps forgetting to dodge mechanics.
Only way the fight itself fails is if I'm the one screwing it up.
it was easy to follow a Scion of similar role to myself(In this case it was Estinien fellow melee dps)
I dare say I'd love to recieve more Trial Trust opportunities in the future.
And while I wanna avoid spoilers, that was BEAUTIFUL. That fight was MEANT to be done with a full party of Trusts.
I didn't cry, but damn did I choke up at this fight.
Bravo Square Enix...Bravo.
Can we talk about Scion AI....
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12-10-2021, 12:30 AMHaydenCan we talk about Scion AI....
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12-10-2021, 12:34 AMSorimachi87
That trial was truly special in a lot of ways. Thank you Square!
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12-10-2021, 12:42 AMLittleImp
In my opinion, that trials design suffered a lot to make it trust compatible. I think it made sense in the narrative for it to be so, but in comparison to the 83/90 trials, the mechanics in the 89 trial are just so incredibly bland. The EX is a significant improvement and seems to have a lot of concepts that they couldn't otherwise implement with trusts in the picture.
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12-10-2021, 12:51 AMSkivvy
Weird. So I also used the trusts for the trials, and they ended up in a lot of AoEs, especially in the first while. I actually thought to myself that it was nice of SE to not choreograph them perfectly so I couldn't just follow them blindly and it also gave me more to do as their healer which I appreciated.
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12-10-2021, 12:56 AMPredatoryCatgirl
From both a lore and a mechanics standpoint, if you don't run that trial as a trust, you're robbing yourself.
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12-10-2021, 12:57 AMHaydenI wonder if people's expirence changes based on their role? I ran as DPS and had little to do other than follow the other melee DPS around, only died once and it was becaused I botched a mechanic and didn't have enough hp left to survive the Akh Morn.Quote:
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12-10-2021, 01:07 AMSkivvyThat would make sense! It would kind of suck to enter as a DPS and have those numpties constantly eating all the AoEs that they can find with no way to cure them. lol. Nice extra touch if it was scripted that way for the various roles.Quote:
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12-10-2021, 01:43 AMJuunFor the true healer experience all Estinien had to do was floor tank every other mechanic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skivvy
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12-10-2021, 01:54 AMHaydenFunny, I was following Estinien to learn mechanics and he didn't lead me wrong.Quote:
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12-10-2021, 03:14 AMAlleo
I too loved this fight and I hope that we get more trials with trust NPCs in the future. First I dont really do these fights for some huge challenge so the mechanics being a bit easier than other trials was fine. The ex versions are always those for harder fights. And second it was just awesome getting there and just doing the fight without having to wait x minutes for the queue to pop. There is no fear that you get a group where people give up to fast too.
Of course you cant be carried in the sense that you die and the rest clears it but at the same time the NPCs are great to show you how its done. I also loved the little dialogue while fighting. Estinien for example warned Alisaie about an incoming attack which she then dogded and thanked him for. This makes the fight so much more alive and immersive.
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12-10-2021, 03:18 AMImora
I liked that one. Actually recorded the fight, too, to show someone. It was just that good.
And regardless of duty, Estinien always stands in crap for me(healer). I usually run with him, cat dude and thancred. -
12-10-2021, 04:09 AMSeraphor
I had Alisaie, with the stack marker on her head, get greedy and use corps-a-corps to a crystal add. Clipped just Urianger and Alphinaud with the stack, all three died instantly. Wipe.
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12-10-2021, 04:27 AMImoraThat sounds hilarious.Quote:
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12-10-2021, 05:02 AMGrizzlyTank
One or two of the members did actually end up dying by standing in stuff near the end of the fight. Also noticed that in the start most stand in aoe but start to avoid it later.
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12-10-2021, 05:16 AMFayupHappened to me too, lol!Quote:
Originally Posted by Seraphor
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12-10-2021, 05:29 AMNaizakane
Alisaie got me killed twice by waiting until the last moment during the mechanic where everyone has their own AoE to gapclose into the spot I'd been standing in as a melee. 10/10 AI perfectly simulates raiding with a red mage
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12-10-2021, 05:34 AMLisSquidThis is why I both adore and loathe the trust system in equal measures.Quote:
Originally Posted by PredatoryCatgirl
Being able to take npcs from the story into the duty with me adds so much extra flavor.. but on the other hand I am not going "OH MY GOD [redacted]!!!!" in a voice call with friends who would otherwise be doing the duty with me. There's one dungeon in EW that is non-negotiable for this, and if you did not use the trust then I don't think we can be friends.
It was interesting running the trial with trusts, because it put responsibility squarely on your shoulders. Don't know if I like it for trials.. Removes the kind of emotion you get from jumping into a fight and then conversing with a bunch of people, freely, because you know you're all at the same point in the story. -
12-10-2021, 05:38 AMaveyond-dreams
I definitely want to see more story mode Trials compatible with Trusts in the future.