How long will this login que problem last?

So while the ques are pretty hectic, how long do you think it gets back to normal? Given the shortage of supplies, will this take maybe 3 months?

Chip shortage affects many things. That depends on how bad is the server business. They are not just for games. Businesses needs servers as well.

Even desktop CPUs and GPUs are affected. I still could not find PS5 and Core i9-12900K at reasonable price after 1 month. Look at price of the graphic cards. They are insane.

Expected at least 2023 for them to fix supply issues. New manufacturing plants will be ready on that year.

Couple few weeks, historically. The active player surge on new launch never lasts very long.

Wouldn’t be as bad if people wouldn’t idle in the inn room with auto-keypressers to secure their spot on the server. Some don’t even bother to do it in secrecy. Saw a guy jumping every few seconds directly at an aetherite.

As things go now for 3 to 8 weeks at last. The people think it be a week and fixed are wrong. Even SE see it be longer and we mostly get 7 more "free" days.
Why I say this? Well the game on steam breaks new tops constantly. Means more and more people want to play.some did waited the first weak as well and come now.
As for cheap shortages it's not the problem here.there lots of free servers.SE do not have they're own servers farm. They rant them.

When people get sick of the long queues and give up, or the people who just play for msq finish it and leave, is my bet. :)

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Originally Posted by TristanX

Chip shortage affects many things. That depends on how bad is the server business. They are not just for games. Businesses needs servers as well.

Even desktop CPUs and GPUs are affected. I still could not find PS5 and Core i9-12900K at reasonable price after 1 month. Look at price of the graphic cards. They are insane.

Expected at least 2023 for them to fix supply issues. New manufacturing plants will be ready on that year.

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The cards and PS5 won't get cheaper and the "shortages" stay. Why? It let them sell the same thing for 3 times more. Why stop? It creates a never seen before demand.

May also depend on datacenter. If you're on EU, then we're probably SOL. We've had small but constant queues during main hours even in the content lull leading up to EW. It'll probbaly improve in the coming weeks, but I'm expecting 30 minute main hours queues minimum for the foreseeable future.

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Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar

The cards and PS5 won't get cheaper and the "shortages" stay. Why? It let them sell the same thing for 3 times more. Why stop? It creates a never seen before demand.

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Thank god I managed to get AMD Ryzen 9 5900X and RTX 3080 before the price hike on Nov 2020. Core i9-12900K is just for me to play around. Its optional.

Yeah, PS5 prices are still silly. Local official Sony store still not selling them.

I suspect for at least a year and a few months (before we get new/better servers that is), The queu's themselves will go down as soon as people go back to work or all those without a job playing 24/7 get off their butt and go get a job.


Not so long ago there was a statement by AMD that they estimate chip shortages to keep affect availability to 2023.
That was mostly towards consumer related products though.

On the plus side. TSMC, together with Sony and the help of the Japanese government are building a new factory in Japan. It will take till around 2024 to be fully operational though but it would be primarily for the Japanese market first (and the car industry foremost but maybe since SE / FF is JAP based they can get some priority too here).




I'm not sure how it's on Light but here on Chaos we've had several queues long before EW even released. As soon as all the wow players came flocking to us. God I wish Blizzard and WoW was still doing great, then we had less of an issue now.

Its not fixed yet? I just get the obligatory 11 people in queue message and thats it. But thats queue is even there when the servers are dead. Am I missing something?

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Originally Posted by Juun

Its not fixed yet? I just get the obligatory 11 people in queue message and thats it. But thats queue is even there when the servers are dead. Am I missing something?

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You must log in in the middle of the night. The queue on our server sometimes exceeds 6000.

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Originally Posted by TristanX

Thank god I managed to get AMD Ryzen 9 5900X and RTX 3080 before the price hike on Nov 2020. Core i9-12900K is just for me to play around. Its optional.

Yeah, PS5 prices are still silly. Local official Sony store still not selling them.

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They do just not for you or any normal costumer. They are most of the one reselling it online.where I from official stores selling it at scalpers price.

In terms of getting more servers? It could be ages. I think YoshiP suggesting it might be months. I actually looked it up, it seems the current lead time is 52 to 70 weeks, but it all depends on semi-conductor manufacture, they reckon there could be easing well into 2022 but not seeing resolution until maybe 2023.

In terms of servers being overloaded. I think queues have been getting shorter on my server at least. They're still terrible but as more and more people are getting to the end of Endwalker they are perhaps less inclined to log in every day. Bear in mind too, lots of people took this week off of work, when they go back to work, I expect some easing too.

Everything else is just the devs trying to stretch their resources further and what they can to help alleviate the server load errors, in which cases they've got some fixes for that they've been gradually rolling out, but at most they'll just offer some alleviation from the errors, but I feel as though people'll still get stuff like 2002 errors due to the nature of them, but fewer people would get them, given their solution.

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Originally Posted by Clicked

You must log in in the middle of the night. The queue on our server sometimes exceeds 6000.

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Around 7am EST generally, I guess. Only had 7k queue on prerelease launch day.

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Originally Posted by Fhaerron

I suspect for at least a year and a few months (before we get new/better servers that is), The queu's themselves will go down as soon as people go back to work or all those without a job playing 24/7 get off their butt and go get a job.


Not so long ago there was a statement by AMD that they estimate chip shortages to keep affect availability to 2023.
That was mostly towards consumer related products though.

On the plus side. TSMC, together with Sony and the help of the Japanese government are building a new factory in Japan. It will take till around 2024 to be fully operational though but it would be primarily for the Japanese market first (and the car industry foremost but maybe since SE / FF is JAP based they can get some priority too here).




I'm not sure how it's on Light but here on Chaos we've had several queues long before EW even released. As soon as all the wow players came flocking to us. God I wish Blizzard and WoW was still doing great, then we had less of an issue now.

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Excuse there people who work from home I'm sorry you don't have luxury to do that.

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Originally Posted by Slayer25c

Excuse there people who work from home I'm sorry you don't have luxury to do that.

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You don't know my occupation. :)

I do in fact work from home, more then ever now with the covid craze and working from home is mandatory.

But when I work from home I do actually ... work and not play the game. I can't hold my straight face to my boss and lie to him while playing in the background. I play (or study, do my sports, etc) as soon as my shift is done.

With coming Xmas I would expect better login situation (like it was before Endwalker) at the January at best.

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Originally Posted by Juun

Around 7am EST generally, I guess. Only had 7k queue on prerelease launch day.

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Yeah it's because you're logging on in the morning. Behemoth is still hitting quad digit queues by like 2 pm and maxing at over 6k by prime time afternoon. It took me 2 h 20 m to get on last night.

Depends on how much there is to do in the 6.0 endgame.

Max like a month, queues are already tanking.

Not sure yesterday just past 12pm pst had a queue of 10186. My guess there going to be high for few more months or when WoW brings out a new expansion and draws all the WoW players that left back. I read even the jp servers is having the same problems.

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Originally Posted by Fhaerron

I'm not sure how it's on Light but here on Chaos we've had several queues long before EW even released. As soon as all the wow players came flocking to us. God I wish Blizzard and WoW was still doing great, then we had less of an issue now.

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We have issue long ago, Most of our world have been “congested” since 2019. WoW probably is the last straw why we have to queue even back in July/August

Odin has queues around 3-4k on 4pm ish german time. Feels like 3-4 hours to get in.
Well Endwalker launch, people coming over from various games including WoW. Server material prices, corona. A lot of things come together with this.

A few more weeks and it'll normalize, hopefully. Square is doing what they can for sure.

Nope i didnt read any of the answers... ^^"

Soon as we all stop trying to get on all the time, every day.

This is new content and people are excited. Happens every xpac. No big.

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Originally Posted by Bsrking5

Max like a month, queues are already tanking.

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Im already noticing a drop in queue lengths. Sure from 5h (day 1), to 3.5h the past few days slowly going to 2.5h, so effectively still a problem. But if it keeps going at this speed, then soon we will have decent enough queues to wait for.

Sure, i do have the advantage that i can queue much earlier than i can game, which negates the problem for me. But it also made me able to track the state of the queue (on the server i play it generaly goes down about 1000 per hour, and i generaly can get ingame near 6-7pm local time).

It will get worse now with christmas holidays coming and a lot of people wanting to play the game.

-Their won't be any improval of the server structure any time soon as they mentioned them self ( chip shortage etc.)

-People have no great alternatives right now aswell. New World is the biggest dissapointment of the year , WoW is i na content draught phase with no major patch sooner than january.

-Square Enix does jack shit against cheaters / 3-Party program users -> Without the ant iafk tools you would atleast see the queue actually moving instead of sitting their for 4 hours and hoping you dont get error 2002.

So you have 3 options:

Don't play and wait for 2-3 months until enough people that got either fed up with it + all the people that just play for a month quit

Take vacation and play during your servers low activity time frame (ergo in the middle of night)

Try to get a refund for the Game and don't play it all ^^

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Originally Posted by Bsrking5

Max like a month, queues are already tanking.

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The time estimate is probably right but queues are definitely not tanking everywhere lol
Im still hitting like 5800+ queues in the afternoon, and they've been pretty consistently that long or more since Friday.

The massive long queues will eventually sort themselves out, atm everyone's been hyped up to play the MSQ primarily, as time rolls on the more lore driven only players will move onto other things and people will gradually spread out over time till the queues evaporate and return to more normal levels. There's also a new oceanic data center launching in a few months as well as SE eventually getting their hands on new servers to build more data centers so things will eventually level out. Unfortunately this will not abate for months so people will need to have patience but the main thing is as time rolls on the bigger queues will gradually dissapear.

If they could
JUST.
FIX.
THE disconnect while in queue problem.

I wouldn't mind so much to log in, see I'm at 2500, and then go about my business, and I'd get in an an hour and a half, two hours.

BUT TO HAVE TO BABYSIT THE QUEUE.. That's becoming intolerable.
The other night I watched a few Arcane episodes in a split window, then every 20 minutes or so, WHOOPS! Got disconnected.. better queue back up within two minutes or lose my place.

Last night I had a very short fuse in-game, and when I ran into a particularly frustrating solo duty (one of those 'play someone else' ones), I just said "screw this" after the second attempt.
I'm not usually like that but I think I was unconsciously thinking, "I didn't stare at a screen for two hours to get blocked by something like this". I had a headache by that point and just logged off.

Eventually I figure if even I think like this, and I'm an aredent YoshiP/SE fan and supporter, where the thought of babysitting the queue means "I think I'll take the night off", I'm sure lots of others are already there, and the queues may shrink for the time being due to sheer frustration.

I think till end of January 2022 and the queue will return everytime there is an event or they have released a major patch.

It’s currently almost 5k queue, yeah, no..

Aether has had the same problem for months as well. Remember you couldn't even create a character on Aether for a few weeks at one point?

Here's an unsatisfying, but realistic, answer that my Organic Chem prof used to give us when we asked how long a reaction would take; "It'll take as long as it takes.".

I honestly hope you're able to get into the game at some point and enjoy the product you've paid for!

there were queues back in 2019 when i first played ff14 and i see no chance that SE will fix the problems going on now, ever. they havent even suspended sales to new players that if they bought the game, couldnt make a character. greed always wins.

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Originally Posted by TristanX

Chip shortage affects many things. That depends on how bad is the server business. They are not just for games. Businesses needs servers as well.

Even desktop CPUs and GPUs are affected. I still could not find PS5 and Core i9-12900K at reasonable price after 1 month. Look at price of the graphic cards. They are insane.

Expected at least 2023 for them to fix supply issues. New manufacturing plants will be ready on that year.

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Actually, it's a bit deeper. The stem of evil is cryptomining.

https://www.windowscentral.com/globa...crease-q2-2021
https://www.digitaltrends.com/comput...pite-shortage/

GPU shipments drastically increased!! And yet not any laymen can afford or purchase any low-to-mid end GPUs at all. The only GPUs we can purchase are either too expensive to expect mining profit or too flimsy(?) to mine anything (i.e. GT710, 210...)

In other words, the dwindling resources (to make fundamental passive elements and power supply components) have been allocated to GPU instead of making motherboards or CPUs (or memory modules... DDR5 is also heavily scalped at this moment) for server machines.

First time I've gotten 90k happened a little over an hour and a half ago, right at the end of a dungeon too. At least I was on a DPS, so they were probably able to complete it without me. Been sitting in queue for this entire time, it's going slowly. Normally, I'd be logging off soon or about an hour, so this is great.. I do hope this subsides soon though. I'd like to be able to take longer breaks from the game without risking this. The queue was only 2k something as well, and it took this long.

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Originally Posted by Catkicker

there were queues back in 2019 when i first played ff14 and i see no chance that SE will fix the problems going on now, ever. they havent even suspended sales to new players that if they bought the game, couldnt make a character. greed always wins.

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This is false, tho. Friend of mine has created two characters on different servers in the past week.

Just because you can't create a character during peak hours does not mean the service is entirely unavailable.

Why suspend sales when the game remains fully playable? No game is ever going to have capacity for literally everyone to be online all at once. You either fight the queue and the errors and try to play while everyone else is also trying to play, or you just play when there are less people trying to play.

Try in 2023