No troll.
ZERO disrespect meant.
I have noticed so many saying they cry over this it catches me off guard. This is NOT an attack on you if you do. I am simply wondering why everyone else seems to get the feels but I don't.
Am I the only one who doesnt cry over this game's story?
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12-09-2021, 10:03 AMEZGILAm I the only one who doesnt cry over this game's story?
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12-09-2021, 10:07 AMMilkieTea
People cry for different reasons, and that's okay!
I personally find that certain story beats tug at my heart enough for me to cry, but others may not feel that way or may even cry at different parts. For me, it's like reading a book or watching a movie with characters I've grown to love. I grew up on Harry Potter for example, and when Hedwig died, I cried so much my eyes hurt. When Snape died I had to fully pause for a few days. It's a genuine grief, even if it's not as hard hitting as someone close to me dying.
Or when things happen that make me happy, or excited, I'll also get tears in my eyes. These are characters I've grown to love and care for. -
12-09-2021, 10:48 AMlezard21When you don't have friends IRL you follow twitter trends in order to feel as if you are part of something. It's the same with the NO SPOILER hive mentality.Quote:
Originally Posted by EZGIL
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12-09-2021, 10:49 AMvan_arn
I get really into media. The last boss’ music was enough to get me to shed a few tears just by playing.
Keep in mind I've been watching this game for nearly a decade, so seeing it finally come together might hit me differently than some others. -
12-09-2021, 10:50 AMXarcabard778
I think if you get really emotionally invested and have played for a long time....I can understand. People cry from books and that's beyond me, but damn that movie "Marley and Me" that one got me good.
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12-09-2021, 10:54 AMEZGILOf all things, the scene in END GAME where they all come together in the end with those gates makes me cry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xarcabard778
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12-09-2021, 10:55 AMDogempire
Some people are simply more expressive and react to emotional stimuli differently than others, it's the same as asking why some people cry when they get punched in the face but others will get angry and punch you back.
To some people FFXIV is a game where they only come back for MSQ but don't get involved in anything past that, for others they're really attached to the game and have spend thousands of hours doing different types of content
It's more that people don't appreciate spoilers because being told what happens at the end kills all suspense and leaves you not motivated to guess or speculate because you know x and y happensQuote:
Originally Posted by lezard21
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12-09-2021, 10:55 AMEZGILThats a great point. Im new and havent invested years into this as opposed to so many of you that have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xarcabard778
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12-09-2021, 10:56 AMSauteed
There's a part in the Stormblood post quests where Gosetsu cries. Bro, I lost my sh**. I cried. I've played through that part multiple times, I've dropped a tear every time. Just played through it about 2 weeks ago, lost it then also. It's more touching than the iconic HW stuff, but when I saw that the first time I was cut deep too.
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12-09-2021, 11:02 AMSchwarzwind
There is no real answer to your question. Every person feels deeply about different things.
In my case I have been a player since 1.0. Since this is my main MMO, I had lots of time to build a close connection to FFXIV's lore, world and characters. I am also a huge fan of immersioning myself into the given role of a game, which is why my WoL (and thus myself) really cared about the twins and the scions. In addition SE just has a talent with music and visuals to really let myself immerse and let me feel the emotions of a moment. I have to think back to FFX's ending with Yuna and Tidus. I cried for days after. -
12-09-2021, 11:10 AMEZGILBeen many years since FFX for me but I do remember that being very emotional. I did get the feels for that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schwarzwind
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12-09-2021, 11:10 AMlezard21Disagree. Everyone knows Snape kills Dumbledore and it's still a very emotional and well written plot. A group of friends and I who had read the books watched the Red Wedding and we were still left in shock. If a story is good it will be good even if you know what happens. If a story relies on a surprise plot twist to get a reaction out of the audience, then it failed as a story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dogempire
It's the same reason why every horror movie nowadays has a jumpscare chord to tell the audience when they are supposed to be scared, because people react to what they perceive without processing it.
If people put a little bit more thought about what they are reading/viewing/playing they wouldn't care about spoilers, they'd care about what they are reading/viewing/playing being good, and not being a surprise. -
12-09-2021, 11:38 AMRalseitale
FFXIV is written for people who get emotionally intense over everything. In fact the only people that really read it past HW are the people that treat the characters as if they were their kids. Otherwise there really isn't a reason to cry or feel surprised at anything that happens save for a few moments.
Also, nostalgia. -
12-09-2021, 11:48 AMSaraideA good surprise makes the experience a lot better imo. I got blindsided by a number of things this expansion and I am glad I didnt know beforehand. I can look back at those experiences and say 'yea that makes sense' but lets not pretend the suspense isnt also an important part of story telling.Quote:
Originally Posted by lezard21
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12-09-2021, 12:33 PMDogempireSure, but for a lot of people a lot of the appeal lies in the mystery, and spoiling the mystery for others and saying it's justified because a good story doesn't need surprises is pretty terrible logic no matter how you frame it because you're still lessening the impact by killing some of the suspenseQuote:
Originally Posted by lezard21
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12-09-2021, 12:36 PMNitelancer
I think the slow pacing of the story reduces the impact for me. I can start to get bored if I play for a long period and start looking and things on my second monitor while story scenes are going. But I still like it overall and felt surprised at some moments. I have felt on the verge of tears during some movies and shows. Boromir's death gets me every time.
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12-09-2021, 12:37 PMLaughingBanana
Yes, you are the ONLY one, OP.
You are TRULY unique among the millions and millions that play this game. You are the ONLY one that doesn't cry, literally it's just you and you only.
Sorry, "Am I the Only One" threads are just one of my biggest pet peeves, lol. -
12-09-2021, 12:59 PMGemina
I've gotten choked up at some parts, but my investment into the MSQ isn't anywhere near as high as it is for some others. There has been so many times I have said, "This is significant because?" or, "Why do I hate/have to protect this person again?"
I take such huge hiatus' from the MSQ that whatever momentum it gains is lost by the time I pick it back up again. My investment is more into my character and accomplishing the things I would like to get done in the game, and most of those goals don't involve the MSQ, but are gated by it. This is why I want to get to a point where I can just go into new game+ and do it all from the beginning uninterrupted. It will have a far more profound affect on me that way. -
12-09-2021, 01:46 PMAverax
This MSQ has had a couple of moments for me, but generally it doesn't get me much
Disagree with your disagree. It really takes the punch out of a scene when you are told in advance what's going to happen in it. All the buildup is suddenly wasted on you.Quote:
Originally Posted by lezard21
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12-09-2021, 02:03 PMGameoversThere is no right or wrong, I myself don't care about spoilers as knowing what happens doesn't take it away from me. I'm kindof with Lezard21 on this one. If it's good it'll be good no matter if you know or not. I mean this is why we replay video games that are great and rewatch shows and movies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Averax
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12-09-2021, 02:13 PMEZGILwheres my achievement then? cant seem to find it in the menu's... halp!Quote:
Originally Posted by LaughingBanana
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12-09-2021, 02:21 PMkpxmanifesto
No you're not alone. The game tries too many times to be emotional to the point where I became desensitized to it. It was almost kind of campy at times.
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12-09-2021, 04:22 PMValkyrie_Lenneth
I'm a rather emotional person, I tend to tear up whenever the mood is right for it. I cried a lot throughout many of the games expansions, tho this one probably hit me the most.
I'm like that with books, movies, songs, etc tho. It's probably not "manly" or w/e but I've always been that way.
But not everyone is like that, and that's OK. We all react to things differently. -
12-09-2021, 05:07 PMSturmChurro
I didn't for this entire expansion until one scene:
When the WoL uses Azem's crystal and summon's both Hythlodeus, and Emet-Selch - with their memories in tact. After summoning the Elpis flowers, and talking with them both, and Emet smiling at the end. It had me smiling and crying in good measure. I liked their characters quite a bit.
I would say, overall, ShB did have more emotional moments. -
12-09-2021, 05:08 PMHavenchildI believe anyone claiming spoiled moments don't ruin literary design are daft on the subject of literary success.Quote:
Originally Posted by lezard21
However, to be fair, it also heavily depends on how the story is told. For example, if a story begins with maybe showing 10 minutes of a future moment and then doing a "but this is how we got here" kinda moment, and rewinding back to the beginning, technically you know the outcome but you become invested from the process to get there.
FFXIV employs this a few times throughout the story but it's not extremely obvious all the time.
However FFXIV also is told mostly in a forward moving perspective so it definitely depends on the progressive highs and anonymity helps lead those highs to bigger pay offs linguistically. Spoiling events hands down will undermind THIS particular story. -
12-09-2021, 06:09 PMLuciaMirain
I shed a tear at a certain part in the story that revolved around loss, because I suffered a huge loss less than a year ago and it resonated with me. The story has definitely tugged at my heartstrings, but I don't cry over that. I can easily cry to other things in my life, though. I was very involved and very emotional when I came to the end of the story. My first words were "WHAT A RIDE THAT WAS". I really enjoyed it. It made me smile and be sad at the same time, it made me laugh and stressed me out at times. All in all 10/10 and I look forward to coming patches and another expansion.
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12-09-2021, 06:32 PMEmoPanther
Eh, I've been playing since Hw release, but incould never connect with any of the characters like that.
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12-09-2021, 06:56 PMGameovers
I didn't cry cry... but getting on the moon... I felt things. It's the moon. T.T I def cried a bit being there. It's ... just the MOON. T.T
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12-09-2021, 07:56 PMJin-
You aren't the only one. I do feel it sometimes, then I just hold it in to avoid shedding any
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12-09-2021, 08:33 PMRein_eon_Osborne
Apple and orange---is all I can say.
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12-09-2021, 10:41 PMLenivyWeebs get attached to isekai heroes, its natural for them to be extremly emotional when any of their favorite characters are on screen or does something wich leads to any consequences for others.Quote:
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Its pretty funny to see whole subculture become what they laughed at when they were kids. Our grandmas watching "The Bold and the Beautifu". -
12-09-2021, 11:28 PMFellgonI dont follow mutch story and characters, but songs hits me, especialy now that me and my gf part ways.Quote:
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12-09-2021, 11:29 PMIllmaeran
You're not the only one and that's not a bad or wrong thing. Different people get emotionally invested in things differently and have different thresholds leading to physical response to emotions. I cry purely at music with no narrative or video; just music. That's a medium I'm sensitive to so it impacts me more than others. Adding Soken's score to the narrative of characters I've become attached to over time causes the floodgates to open at times. I've got FC mates who see this as just a game where they move a virtual dress-up doll around a virtual space to overcome technical challenges. Others more like myself let our imaginations go, immerse ourselves in this world, and invest ourselves in the story.
Both ways of playing are valid as is everything in-between. Even if you don't have the emotional response to the game others of us have, I hope you continue enjoying your experience your way. It's your hobby and "your game" too. :)
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12-10-2021, 12:43 AMSorimachi87
Its all good OP.
I am, by now, severely invested in the game and suffer, cry, laugh and so on with my character, their friends and everything the game throws at me. And personal stuff like soken's speech at the digital fan fest as well. This just shows they care and its reflected ingame. There are numerous references which can be reflected upon with the real world situations. Those moments and the small little bits in the story are what make this game for me so touching and letting me immerse myself more then other games can do. -
12-10-2021, 12:46 AMcaffe_macchiatoThe story probably would have a greater impact if it wasn’t handicapped by long queue times and escort/fetch quests. After waiting in queues for hours and clicking through voiceless text for hours more, it’s hard to find the energy to care too much about the dramatic events in the story.Quote:
Originally Posted by EZGIL
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12-10-2021, 01:54 AMFredco191
I got a little close to crying when the [Endwalker spoiler]. But other than that I'm not really the type of person that gets emotional enough to cry.
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12-10-2021, 02:05 AMIllmaeranWait, was that when [Endwalker spoiler], or [Endwalker spoiler], or when [Endwalker spoiler] did [Endwalker spoiler] and [Endwalker spoiler] happened? It really got me the time [Endwalker spoiler]. [Endwalker spoiler] is such a badass, I can't believe [Endwalker spoiler]!Quote:
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*grin* Thanks for giving me the opportunity for some elementary school grade humor. *chuckle* -
12-10-2021, 02:09 AMBrandedbladeIt's very difficult for something to make me cry so i understand, while i personally did have a few moments that made me cry while playing the endwalker msq, i've also been on your side of things with other story beats, like when a certain bloke says that smiles better suit heroes.Quote:
Originally Posted by EZGIL
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12-10-2021, 02:32 AMSkivvy
Generally speaking, I do tend to get sniffly somewhat easily with shows/movies when it comes to sad, touching, & happy moments, but the MSQ here really doesn't tend to hit me that way as a whole.
I think a big part of it for me is how they do their CSs. First off, it's really quite jarring jumping between voiced CSs and then the next set you're back to silence. On top of that you have the bad "acting" in the CSs as well. You all know the memes, the clenched fist, the silent mouthing of words, the constant nodding, weird pause then it shows each character in the scene doing an emote....."ok guys...ANGRY FACE GO!", it all just feels really unnatural and takes me out of the moment most of the time. A lot of scenes in EW made it feel like I was watching a really bad anime.
That's not to say that the story hasn't made me feel anything, but when I hear people go on about crying non-stop with the story, especially EW,, it does make me wonder. :X Gonna chalk this up to different strokes for different folks.