So, the MSQ did not answer the question that occurred to me the most times from 5.0 onward:
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How did Emet-Selch, Elidibus, and Lahabrea avoid being sundered?
I wanted to know. I did not find out.
Damn.
On the Unsundered [Contains Endwalker Spoilers]
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12-09-2021, 02:15 AMFloortankOn the Unsundered [Contains Endwalker Spoilers]
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12-09-2021, 02:52 AMiheartlove42Elidibus became the heart of Zodiark. They used Zodiark to save themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Floortank
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12-09-2021, 03:20 AMRaiya
One likely cause: they were on the moon when the world was sundered. Can't be sundered if your not there to begin with. Hell the moon was Elidibus's go to hidey hole for most of the game so I wouldn't be suprised if thats how they dodged it.
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12-09-2021, 03:48 AMAlleoBut wasnt the moon created by Venat as a prison for Zodiark and spaceship for us?Quote:
Originally Posted by Raiya
Maybe the unsundered found the rift where they always went in the MSQ. -
12-09-2021, 04:16 AMQT_Melon
I have a feeling since the Pandemonium is coming up - that the question of unsundered will reside there.
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12-09-2021, 04:18 AMBright-Flower
Pandaemonium may answer it. It'd be neat to know, but it's not really a burning question for me. Same with why Zenos was having final days dreams all his life. I can only assume he was some random ancient we never met.
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12-09-2021, 07:11 AMAlenoreAnd yet Zodiark Himself was sundered, so you may wonder why his Heart wasn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by iheartlove42
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12-09-2021, 07:16 AMLoggos
I think I vaguely recall that Elidibus left Zodiark's body to act separately from him again? I have no idea how this is possible and whether this means he was still a primal (I think they said he still is...?) or whether he became a normal Ascian again which as a consequence left Zodiark heartless.
But I believe the story said some form of separation had taken place before the sundering and Elidibus had joined Emet-Selch and the others to help them/work with them again. -
12-09-2021, 01:47 PMFloortank
Just to be clear, it never answered the question. I didn't miss anything. Just saying, I was hoping for an answer.
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12-09-2021, 02:45 PMQT_MelonHonestly I don't know why you thought it would considering Pandemonium is about LahabreaQuote:
Originally Posted by Floortank
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12-09-2021, 05:06 PMMrThinker
10 chars to little
Deudalaphon remains the only member of the Ascians/Convocation to not be explicitly named within the game and any of it's suplementary materials upto this point! -
12-09-2021, 06:48 PMAlenoreElidibus did leave Zodiark when Ancients weren't on agreement on the course of action post-Zodiark, since his seat was to be the Emissary and pretty much solve internal conflicts. He still was pretty much a primal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loggos
I meant that as "using Zodiark to save themselves" wouldn't really work since Zodiark himself was sundered : if he could save himself, he would have, I think. Except if the fact that Elidibus left pretty much rendered Zodiark powerless to make decisions. -
12-11-2021, 03:51 AMTheRealQuah
Venat deliberately did not sunder them because she knew that they needed to unsundered to play out the events that allowed us to go back in time.
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12-11-2021, 03:23 PMRyuDragnierThat was an option I was thinking of myself. Pandaemonium may or may not have played a role in things as well. We'll find out once the Normal Raids start up or once they finish at the end of the expansion patches.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRealQuah
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12-11-2021, 03:24 PMQT_MelonQuote:
Originally Posted by TheRealQuah
But what about Laha-Bread? -
12-12-2021, 07:46 AMTheRealQuahAgain, because Lahabrea was unsundered in our time, Venat had to leave him unsundered when the split everything else, otherwise he would have not been able to carry out his plots, which effectively brought us to where we are.Quote:
Originally Posted by QT_Melon
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12-12-2021, 08:31 AMBhearil
Probably Venat sundered everyone, but the trio was somewhere out of the effect of the sundering.
Its unlikely the Wol went as deep in detail to especfiy EVERYTHING to Venat &Co. But since it was a time loop the timeline will fix itself and no matter the reason they wont end being sundered because you cant change the past, at most get a different perspective and the timeline itself is already adjusted from the start counting that you WILL travel to the past and that will enable you on the future to start your journey in the first place -
12-12-2021, 08:46 AMRongway
I'm in the "Let's see what Pandæmonium says" boat and don't really have anything to add but I wanted to take a moment to regard:
If you mean the entire bit, including "Inserting [...] main page" then, yes, the extra length successfully takes up the rest of the preview. But if you meant that the mouseover preview stops when it encounters ellipses, it does not; the preview is based on length and there are some number of words or characters that it will display before truncating. Sorry for the off-topic but I wouldn't want a forum newbie to see this and think ellipses can break a mouseover preview, and then have them unintentionally spoil something they thought they were diligently protecting against spoiling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Floortank