So "This World is currently full." and then error 2002 count as early access?

Since yesterday at 8 pm when I got home from work until now I keep getting this repeating cycle.... I am very disappointed by this and I really hope the company is reading the forums. I have read things about streamers getting on, non-paying trial players getting on despite being told we paying customers would take priority. It certainly doesn't feel like it. Also with all these issues now, in early access, what's it going to look like next week when it actually launches? I know they said expect congestion, but not being able to log in or stay in que is far beyond "Congestion". I really hope you guys are working on a solution, because this is eating up all of our "Early Access" time in que and being kicked out of que. I would just be happy when I get below 2000 or 3000 in que to NOT be kicked out of my place. Just let us stay in que until it's our turn.

I got to #13 before my last 2002. Now I can't even get past the "Connecting to Data Center" popup.

I feel your pain, hopefully the devs do too, considering we haven't heard a lot from them so far.

I can accept the extended queues because this is fairly common with new releases for most online games. However, not being able to log into the game at all when people have paid for a subscription is not acceptable.

Normal mmo things are normal.

Quit being entitled and feeling the need to post your own unique thread when the entire forum is clogged with this crap.

I mean waiting isn't the problem at all, would wait happily in a 8k queque until it is my time. Getting error messages or the login servers just going up in flames and people who basically waited for hours getting kicked again at the end of the queues, that is just really really bad. Not that the traffic is high, not that the waiting time is so long...no only that the system behind this is so flawed that is basically throws people back at the end.

I'd be thrilled to set in que as a paying customer, as long as said que wouldn't keep ejecting me. I'm with ya

I can except the 2k+ queues, because I can get in queue and get something to eat ect, and come back in an hour. It's the getting below 100 in queue after an hour - only to get a 2002 error, lose your place, that is really upsetting.

They really need to fix the 2002 errors!

The queues were expected. The crashing lobby server is very annoying however. Regardless, I knew this expansion was going to have a horrible launch once the player base drastically increased in conjunction with their inability to acquire more servers.

Would happily sit in the 10k+ que if it meant the que number meant anything.

I waited two hours to go from about 3k start, down to 800, to nearly 6000. I was almost logged in. This is Raubahn savage levels of fun.

Idk if people remember but it was the same at the beginning of Shadowbringers. Obviously the changes they made then were adequate but no one could have predicted the influx of players from other game to this extent. Give it time and patience, the game will be playable once a viable solution can be found.

Not being able to get in during a launch/early access of an expansion isn't uncommon for many MMOs.
In fact, it's to be expected.
And people still want to take out payed time off from work for this.
Which is why others tend to suggest not to take time off at launch day as it will most likely always come with it's share of hickups.

I think the queue system just died, at least for leviathan. I went from 5000 to 1 and now get a world is full error, no queue.

I have to agree. The long que was to be expected and I don't mind waiting to get past it, but the constant errors and losing your spot in the que is frustrating. Waiting 8 hours and longer to actually be able to play the game might work on weekends, but on normal weekdays, after work, it's simply impossible.

yeah so I could do something else and don't have to stand still in front for when a 2002 will hapen

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Originally Posted by Ayer2015

The queues were expected. The crashing lobby server is very annoying however. Regardless, I knew this expansion was going to have a horrible launch once the player base drastically increased in conjunction with their inability to acquire more servers.

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I've expected this since the Make it Rain campaign and I got an error telling me I couldn't teleport to the Gold Saucer because the area was full.

I love that people are discovering the game, but it definitely came with a downside this time. The situation is unfortunate but there's definitely bigger problems in the world. I'm just vibin' and shiny hunting in BDSP.

So, I just logged into the Japanese server group and had no problem creating a new character, its like 6 am there. Suppose that's why they're not suffering with these conditions? I just came back and tried Leviathan, Lamia and Jenova servers (I have characters on those). Back to the que for early access. Not one of them are under 4k ques.

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Originally Posted by Thi

Normal mmo things are normal.

Quit being entitled and feeling the need to post your own unique thread when the entire forum is clogged with this crap.

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That's right! Stop with the need to be heard! Your voice doesn't matter. Everything is fine and your critics should be silenced!

I can not agree with those who say "I can wait" because most of us work and have very limited time when they can log in.
Since the patch, I was not able to log in at all. Best place in queue I got was 7300, then I decided it's not worth it.

If I pay for a service, I expect it to be available. Easy as this.

Now, one can start discussing with "but it's a new patch", "in a month it will be back to normal" or "nobody could have anticipated this many players". Those simply didn't play the game before (yes, I'm pointing at the responsible people from Square Enix).

I really only want to point out things, not saying how bad everything is. I'm happy with this game and want to to continue being good, that is the reason I'm being rough now.

Since I started playing, I could rarely log in without waiting in a queue. Everyone should have known already how tight the capabilities of the available servers were even before the patch. And I'm sure, there were competent developers telling their managers this will happen.
As I see it now, somebody decided to give it a try and see how it goes in a week or two. "Maybe we won't need extra resources".
Do I have to remind you on the best example (World of Crapcraft), that messed with players too often?

What was so difficult about making a new server available for early access only players to try? Now the whole (paying) community is upset, inclding the early access players who are also stuck in the queue.

What was so difficult with opening a new server for each region, knowing exactly that it will be needed with (as Square Enix doesn't forget to advertise) raising player numbers?

Did anyone even look at the numbers (at even make statistics) on this?

And, I'm sorry to say this, a letter with apologies from the boss for the "inconvenience" seemed to me personally like a slap in the face to every player. The least they can do is plan such patch days and simulate them as much as possible. In this case, making a poll a month in advance could have shown some insights in what would happen. Also, knowing the sales numbers on the new expansion were quite helpful.

Anyway, I'm not a forum troll. But I really like this game and it's community. And I really hope the Square Enix stakeholders, managers and what not do not do the same mistake as the former "king of MMO" company.
You have something really good here and please... Don't mess with the players.

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Originally Posted by Mesarthim

I think the queue system just died, at least for leviathan. I went from 5000 to 1 and now get a world is full error, no queue.

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Same, also Leviathan. Got 2002'd out of the queue and now I can't even get back into the queue. Just 3001 "world full, try later"

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Originally Posted by Mesarthim

I think the queue system just died, at least for leviathan. I went from 5000 to 1 and now get a world is full error, no queue.

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On levi as well and getting the same issue.

This is Raubahn savage levels of broken (at least for leviathan). With the queue system broken you can now get the loading screen of the world and THEN the 3001 world is full error. Remember the slightly longer than average black screens when trying to start the Raubahn instance?

It's basically that but endwalker edition.

At this point I am convinced I will just have to play during this week when people are at work.

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Originally Posted by Thi

Normal mmo things are normal.

Quit being entitled and feeling the need to post your own unique thread when the entire forum is clogged with this crap.

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Public forums my friend, not feeling entitled at all, except to be able to log into this game I do pay for. So please stop trolling, no one asked you to comment on this, but since I assume you pay to play too, you are entitled to air your opinion, as I'm entitled to disagree with your opinion ;-)

The only upside is at least it remembers where you were in queue before 2002ing you, unlike back during the launch of freaking Stormblood.

The issue is the population is way higher at launch since now you got all the people who were not playing because of content drought stacking on top of new people. So we got a total player population that far exceeds the limits of the servers.

I mean, we're in queue at position 4000+ and it takes so long to log in it 2002 errors you out and I feel like it is doing it at the 30 minute mark.

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Originally Posted by Evergrey

Not being able to get in during a launch/early access of an expansion isn't uncommon for many MMOs.
In fact, it's to be expected.
And people still want to take out payed time off from work for this.
Which is why others tend to suggest not to take time off at launch day as it will most likely always come with it's share of hickups.

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I agree to an extent. Most are saying that the que is fine, but what's not expected or welcomed is the que resetting itself. That's really the frustrating part. Though I wish I had the foresight to have made a character on a Japanese server, they have no que at the moment... /sigh

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Originally Posted by Colt47

The only upside is at least it remembers where you were in queue before 2002ing you, unlike back during the launch of freaking Stormblood.

The issue is the population is way higher at launch since now you got all the people who were not playing because of content drought stacking on top of new people. So we got a total player population that far exceeds the limits of the servers.

I mean, we're in queue at position 4000+ and it takes so long to log in it 2002 errors you out and I feel like it is doing it at the 30 minute mark.

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This has not been happening for me, every time I get 2002d out of the queue I have to start over, and I am on Gilgamesh so I end up in the upper 8000s for a queue.

The 2002 is the main issue honestly. Que is annoying but if it gradually went down without crashing constantly would be alot better.

The annoying thing is to see a 3.4k+ que, go away from the computer to make a snack, do housework, or something because it is a 30-45min wait... then come back to a 2002 error 20mins later and have to start over.

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Originally Posted by Mesarthim

This is Raubahn savage levels of broken (at least for leviathan). With the queue system broken you can now get the loading screen of the world and THEN the 3001 world is full error. Remember the slightly longer than average black screens when trying to start the Raubahn instance?

It's basically that but endwalker edition.

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Apparently I was just told on voice it's now primal as a whole. But I have an update, this bamboozle screen also can give you the 2002 error and close your game.

It is now error roulette.

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Originally Posted by SieyaM

This has not been happening for me, every time I get 2002d out of the queue I have to start over, and I am on Gilgamesh so I end up in the upper 8000s for a queue.

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Has been holding my place as well, but it is hard to tell if it is luck. I dont think behemoth is getting 8k queues so maybe certain servers are just crashing forcing people to requeue from the start idk.

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Originally Posted by Bloodkraft

I can except the 2k+ queues, because I can get in queue and get something to eat ect, and come back in an hour. It's the getting below 100 in queue after an hour - only to get a 2002 error, lose your place, that is really upsetting.

They really need to fix the 2002 errors!

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Yes. <insert vulgar swear word here>.

just went from 3k to 5500 behe. yesterday i was lucky all 3 crashes put me in a higher spot on the list.

its really to the point i have multiple launchers up waiting for the 2002 to fail so i can insta get back in :| so many tin foil hat theories to this :p

Don't worry, they will be setting up a placard system where you can bid for a line in queue.

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Originally Posted by LisSquid

I got to #13 before my last 2002. Now I can't even get past the "Connecting to Data Center" popup.

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I got to 1, not kidding, 2002.....

2 1/2 hours later I can't even get past the Start screen. -_-

oOooOo maybe this is the new lottery system for houseing mechanic they are introducing? useing us as lab rats for game play spots :p

You know the sad part is all 4 times ive been DC'd was throu a cut scene, ima have to stary skipping and watch back later in a month :|

Seriously, it's now 5:46 pm, east coast US, started in que at 5 pm, just 2002`d out of my place in line. No actual early access, unless you count setting in a que for hours and getting 2002 errors. Guess I'm going back to ifrit, on the Japanese servers so I can at least play, no que there, and I'm serious when I say, they should give me the 7 days(since it's already been almost 7 days) and comp me a story skip and class level to 70 for the character I started on ifrit.