Party Search

Please fix the broken mess that's called a search function. I would like to be on my CRP grinding away while looking for a R44 PT needing a CON in Broken Water instead of going there from Grid waiting and shouting while on my CON wasting time.

I know we have a small community but i do not see why we have to waste so much time on things that should be fast. Let me get on healing class on any other game and see how long i have to "que" or "LFG".

It's simple "Class/Role in PT"+"Goal of group"+"Others seeking/ or just bored wanting to help"= an end to the monotony.

I would like to see an enhanced version of FFXI's search features.

Yeah, SE the current party search function #XYZ:(. No players like it and it is under-used. Please give us a better party search interface.

Please implement a search feature as good or better than FFXI... being that soloing levels above R25 is horribly gimped now, you need to give us a mechanism to find SP parties... This should be a very high priority.

The party search feature actually works, I use it all the time ^^. It could stand to be better, As in add LFG for single players looking for a bigger group rather than form their own, so they can be invited by those that are forming their own group. That addition will perfect the current party search feature.

I'm of the opinion that an enhanced FFXI system would benefit more than anything else..

First and foremost a party flag and a /sea command.

But second maybe the ability to advertise as other jobs so we can at least play something ELSE while we wait.

I disagree on saying is broken, is working perfectly fine, is just that it need to change the way of searching. <_< please... rephrase ya words...

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Originally Posted by Abraxai

I'm of the opinion that an enhanced FFXI system would benefit more than anything else..

First and foremost a party flag and a /sea command.

But second maybe the ability to advertise as other jobs so we can at least play something ELSE while we wait.

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Yea, to be able to be invited to a party hwile on different jobs, would be rather awsome. Solo on class X and look for party on class Y

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Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce

I disagree on saying is broken, is working perfectly fine, is just that it need to change the way of searching. <_< please... rephrase ya words...

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Noone says it is broken. I was just saying the party search function sucks and want SE to make improvement on it.

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The party search feature actually works, I use it all the time ^^. It could stand to be better, As in add LFG for single players looking for a bigger group rather than form their own, so they can be invited by those that are forming their own group. That addition will perfect the current party search feature.

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This.
There does need to be better clarity on party roles desired, though that can be done in multiple ways.

I would like to see a combination of FFXI and FFXIV party search functions.

Allow a PT leader to set amount and type of people to join the "public" PT (FFXIV)

and then allow players to seek PT listing multiple jobs. (FFXI enhanced)

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Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee

I would like to see a combination of FFXI and FFXIV party search functions.

Allow a PT leader to set amount and type of people to join the "public" PT (FFXIV)

and then allow players to seek PT listing multiple jobs. (FFXI enhanced)

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This. I like this idea very much.

Btw, OP... you should really change the title of the thread to include a Dev tag.

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Originally Posted by Wild

Please implement a search feature as good or better than FFXI... being that soloing levels above R25 is horribly gimped now, you need to give us a mechanism to find SP parties... This should be a very high priority.

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I completely agree with this statement.

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Originally Posted by RockDustt

Please fix the broken mess that's called a search function.

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It simply isn't broken... it's just that people don't know how to use it, even now you will meet people that even don't know that something like that exists there... even when they discover it they appear to be stupid to that extent that they aren't capable of getting to know how to use it... I, myself personally knew from the first day, also I see this kind of a system in place in various games and it is usable there, all players are using this... Seriously all i can think about this now that people are to fricking dumb...

for the rest i won't explain... i just say one last thing, back in 2011 year when I've created a party rec. ppl joined. Now they even don't bother to look there... (I'm talking about the ones that know about it or not... though it's true that most of the ones that knew how to use this have left, so there are maybe 5~10% of people that know how to use party search, and about 95~90% that don't...)

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Originally Posted by Abraxai

I'm of the opinion that an enhanced FFXI system would benefit more than anything else..

First and foremost a party flag and a /sea command.

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FIRST OF ALL, NO FRICKING COMMANDS! This is a game, not Linux that you need to remember XXXXXX commands to operate, Gui window through menu/option, so you can fill it with info, or nothing else.

I repeat again, NO COMMANDS.

PS: I almost forgot... there are some people... that doesn't get the idea of them advertising themselves as a leader... also there are some that are afraid of being a leader thus they don't create recommend.

This system is more in favor:

1) You are a party leader.
2) You are searching for ppl to your party, not vice versa.
3) You are recruiting ppl to your party, not other parties recruit your character.

Some can't comprehend that logic...
Seriously this pissing me off...

Oh hell no, I don't want people joining my party out of the blue. What if they are there to steal loot or are totally stupid and offensive? I want /sea all 30-35 command back. I know the RMT abused it during beta, but I can always blacklist rmt.

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Originally Posted by Dyne

Oh hell no, I don't want people joining my party out of the blue. What if they are there to steal loot or are totally stupid and offensive? I want /sea all 30-35 command back. I know the RMT abused it during beta, but I can always blacklist rmt.

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That's why you post who are you looking for... you know that /sea thingy with list of all the sh** is the same... you don't know those people and they will join you anyway... so why the fuss... and personally, i wanna see all the party I'm joining before deciding if I want to play with them or not...

as for the other way, being a leader, I don't want to go though all the fuss of random shiz of searching, i wanna post recruitment and wait for ppl to collect themselves. I post proper requirements and ppl meeting them, will join. Also this gives me a method to get to know of new players.

But seriously... the situation with that is so messed up now... so adding to all the camps that are already, we got ppl like dyne who "Oh hell no, I don't want people joining my party out of the blue."

I wonder, with all the camps, how SE will resolve the party system to please all people... cuss it ain't be a fricking easy task.

PS: Personally, I'm saying NO to FFXI party creating method and YES to FFXIV one.

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Originally Posted by Feldt

FIRST OF ALL, NO FRICKING COMMANDS! This is a game, not Linux that you need to remember XXXXXX commands to operate, Gui window through menu/option, so you can fill it with info, or nothing else.

I repeat again, NO COMMANDS.

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Commands are much more efficient for some people over navigating through menus. As long as you have an option in the GUI somewhere to perform the same function, text commands are awesome. That's especially true when you get into more advanced forms of searching.

/sea all 22-36 GLA /s

^ Search for all gladiators level 22-36 who have their party seek flag on. And for those of us who can remember such commands, this is 10 times faster than using a GUI to enter the information.

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Originally Posted by Grit

Commands are much more efficient for some people over navigating through menus. As long as you have an option in the GUI somewhere to perform the same function, text commands are awesome. That's especially true when you get into more advanced forms of searching.

/sea all 22-36 GLA /s

^ Search for all gladiators level 22-36 who have their party seek flag on. And for those of us who can remember such commands, this is 10 times faster than using a GUI to enter the information.

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If done in dual, eg. GUI option and command it would please both sides. I would certainly be using the visible option. I'm always quiet fast with navigating with this kind of things on screen (faster than writing the command xD)

Feldt.... we understand that a system for creating a party is there. But it would not hurt them to add the other half. Right now, as you state, it's only party leaders recruiting. It would be nice to see a search function for who is seeking as well.

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Originally Posted by Kaedan

Feldt.... we understand that a system for creating a party is there. But it would not hurt them to add the other half. Right now, as you state, it's only party leaders recruiting. It would be nice to see a search function for who is seeking as well.

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Well that could be added. It even could be added to actual one, and i think they will add it with time. All about what i was talking was actual state of things in game regarding the actual system, and a little about not wanting a commands.

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Originally Posted by Feldt

Well that could be added. It even could be added to actual one, and i think they will add it with time. All about what i was talking was actual state of things in game regarding the actual system, and a little about not wanting a commands.

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Well, to be honest, them adding commands wouldn't hurt you. You wouldn't have to use them if you don't want to. But some people prefer to use them because they're more efficient.

You probably seeked for parties for hours on end and never formed a party in your life. Forming a party is very stressful. Autopartying is not good because people have different intentions, not just bad ones, but stuff like I wanna camp here, and they wanna camp there. /sea all 20-25 gla, then send a polite /tell to each result if they want to join, then /sea all 20-25 thm, then send a polite /tell to each result, then /sea all 20-25 pug, then send a polite tell to them, and you got a party. I don't want some hey! I'm rank 1, whats going on guys? where are we going? /boot, then that person hates you for life. I personally formed 95% of my parties in ffxi for the 6 years I played, and I can tell you /sea all method works. With the current UI search function in ffxiv, if you are in a ghost town like Limsa or Gridania, you can forget about making a party, and just head over to a camp to behest and hope jp players invite you otherwise you are soloing until a linkshell finds you and they are actually active.

Feklt.. You're stupid.

Not everybody wants to have people joining out of the blue. There are many roles within a class and you're not always guaranteed that that one role will join.

Some people want to do other stuff while seeking.

Some people want the /sea command because it's on the fly accessible. A quick 2 second keyboard input and you can see what's available THE WORLD OVER.

The current system doesn't allow for world recruit visibility. NO way to see what's online. NO way to see what's going on.

Your credibility is flawed.

Feldt,

Please go away. You are defending a system on 5% of people using it. Other 95% of people want changes or improvements to be made here.

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Originally Posted by Abraxai

Not everybody wants to have people joining out of the blue. There are many roles within a class and you're not always guaranteed that that one role will join.

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Easy solution, and one already mentioned in this thread. Change the system from looking for meaningless class names to actual roles. Tank/Healer/Damage/Partyanimal.

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Originally Posted by Aldarin

This.
There does need to be better clarity on party roles desired, though that can be done in multiple ways.

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Agreed.

I would like:

1. Party search - (aka Recruit) to allow me to set my group as open, so players can join if they wish (what it is now)
2. Looking for more - allow me to search a list of players who have set them selfs as looking for group.
3. Search - with lots of options, from class, role, rank, level, location, name, etc that I can search anything I need to find what I'm looking for.

I never ever found any results when searching for a party - please make it more user friendly. It should give a broader results by default, and then refine by filters - right now it is the opposite way.

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Originally Posted by CoolBlitz

Feldt,

Please go away. You are defending a system on 5% of people using it. Other 95% of people want changes or improvements to be made here.

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Sorce?
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Originally Posted by Aratharn

I would like to see an enhanced version of FFXI's search features.

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Same here.

I saw many attacking Feldt, but she is right. If you study the party search feature, you would see that you can select the classes that can join your party, or just Discipline and count.

So you can chose Discipline of Magic - Rank X to Rank Y - and the # of them you want.
or you can specifically select Thaumaturge - Rank X to Rank Y - and the # of them you want.

If you chose any.... well that means you will end up with a Rank whatever you chose Armorer or something join your party. It would only be your own fault.

When I make parties, I make sure to have 2 variables, Discipline's of War wanted, and Disciplines of Magic wanted. You cant the wrong people or the wrong rank if you do it that way.

And like she said, the main difference between FFXIV's Party search and FFXI's LFG, is that the party leader only has to open the recruitment, rather than typing a million /sea all commands to find the right people.

I think that a party search feature would do better once there are more defined jobs. The class system doesn't allow for an easy idea on what kind of player you're going to get, as most classes can tank, can DPS, can heal, etc. It would be nice, however, to at least allow for a search of players currently wanting to party, detailed by rank.

But once the new job system is up, we should have a better idea of what the party search feature should be.

I think this thread needs a bump since I have yet to see any notes from the dev team addressing this enormous issue.

This is currently the biggest issue preventing me from playing... Finding a party using the current system is a pain, and soloing is boring and takes forever to gain SP. I'd love to play with other people, but i just can't find people to play with!

There is another thread that touches base with this problem called "Seek Party Flag + /sea all command PLEASE!" The current party search system is terrible, I want to see something like what FFXI had. I would say make it better than FFXI, but everytime SE tries to make something "better" well you get the picture. >.>

The system works but absolutely noone uses it. I think I've seen 1 party in the search menu a week.

Se wasting effort on something that doesn't work, how typical :rolleyes:. I'm tired of shouting for invite and getting none every time.

Along these lines, I always enjoyed the LFP flag that helps players know you are looking for a party. I hope along with the search tools, etc, that this is implemented. :)