question regarding the lore because extremly confused here

ok so, was on youtube and saw a video that was going to "explain" FF14 lore, because was bored thought to myself "why not !"

first second, "the world we play in is called hydaelin"
directly i was like "wait what ? no !"

as far as i am aware the ascien CREATED hydaelin, and the world well, already existed at this time (ok she did split the world in many reflect true i agree so we could say that in theory its a brand new world) but still, not to mention that in the game, they mentionned hydaelin as a primal, an actual entity, and also well 99% of the population seems to ignore the word "hydaelin" all together, also that yes she seems to be in a form of a crystal in her own plane of existance that is "connected" to our world

im really confused here, is it common knowledge for everyone that
hydaelin = world of ff14 (actual planet aswell)?

What video is this? Cause that ain't right at all

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Originally Posted by Bacent

What video is this? Cause that ain't right at all

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meaning that you agree with me or ? here said video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaQ__5ZBwBc&t=112s

hydaelyn is the embodyment of the planet. at least for the people nowadays. so over time it became pretty much the same in the mind of the living people.

yeah the world is sometimes called hydaelyn im pretty sure

We have a lore specific forum for questions like these but... Hydaelyn is the name of the planet and Hydaelyn is also the name of the primal summoned to limit and stop Zodiark. Afaik most common people know of the planet but very few are actually aware of Hydaelyn the entity.

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Originally Posted by MercuryD

Hydaelyn is the name of the planet and Hydaelyn is also the name of the primal summoned to limit and stop Zodiark. Afaik most common people know of the planet but very few are actually aware of Hydaelyn the entity.

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im enclined to believe it, but do you have any idea of where in the game this was said ? (dont need to be specific just point me in right direction i will do the research), because i dont remember ever any npc saying anything about this like this

ok afaik i got my answear ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=443ogl24K0Y

first few seconds, damn i feel stupid i didnt knew this ...

You'll need to progress the MSQ. Without giving too much away, the world we play on is actually called 'The Source'. It is one of several shards that the primal, Hydaelyn created to seal away Zodiark. Each of those shards functions as a 'world' in its own right. The role of the Ascians is to engineer what they call "The Rejoining", and a calamity needs to take place on both the source as well as one of the shards in order to rejoin that shard to the source. There are 13 of these shards in total, with the source being one of them, and the 13th (World of Darkness) was lost to the void. You will also note that the summoning of the primal form of Bahamut lead to the 7th calamity. This should let you know how many shards are actually left.

The planet in question isn't even referred to as a planet. It is called a star. The role Hydaelyn and Zodiark play on this star is all explained in the ShB MSQ.

The actual name of the world we play on, as far back in history that we know, is "The Source". Our world is colloquially called "Hydaelyn" by the general populace because of the goddess (aka primal) Hydaelyn.
Yes, the world existed before Hydaelyn, and it would have had a different name before the splintering, but currently it's called Hydaelyn.

Hydaelyn is the name of a god. It is coincidentally the name of the planet everyone is on too. This may seem confusing, but the concept of these gods is they are the living brain of the planet.

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The planet in question isn't even referred to as a planet. It is called a star. The role Hydaelyn and Zodiark play on this star is all explained in the ShB MSQ.

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In archaic usage, any significantly large celestial body is called a star, including planets. This isn't an error, just an old and now-uncommon use of terminology.

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You'll need to progress the MSQ. Without giving too much away, the world we play on is actually called 'The Source'.

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It is called the Source, sure, but that's not its name. Whatever the Ascians called it before all the summoning went down is unclear.

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The planet in question isn't even referred to as a planet. It is called a star. The role Hydaelyn and Zodiark play on this star is all explained in the ShB MSQ.

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This is just poetic license. Ancient peoples would refer to most heavenly bodies as stars. This included planets. It's why Venus is called "Morning Star."

You'll notice a lot of archaic language used in FFXIV for poetic license, and to create immersion. "Hydaelyn" or "the Source" is still a planet. We have even seen a SE produced globe of Hydaelyn.

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Originally Posted by Kaedan

The actual name of the world we play on, as far back in history that we know, is "The Source". Our world is colloquially called "Hydaelyn" by the general populace because of the goddess (aka primal) Hydaelyn.
Yes, the world existed before Hydaelyn, and it would have had a different name before the splintering, but currently it's called Hydaelyn.

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Yes... and no.

The use of the term 'the Source' is in reference to what was left of the original planet after the Sundering, and hence it's almost always only refered in that way when talking about dimensional travel and it's place in the dimensional cosmology with it's Shards, and then only by a handful of people who actually know about the concept (specifically, the Scions/Archons and, presumedly, Sharlayan) - almost everyone else on the world calls it Hydaelyn, and this has been the case since 1.0.

Interestingly, as far as I was aware there is no indication of anyone on the First calling their Shard 'Hydaelyn' - apart from Ardbert and his friends it's unclear if anyone there even is aware of Hydaelyn the goddess. And from little we've seen, the Ancients pre Terminus/Sundering seemed to have no name at all for the original world, it was simply called 'the Star'.

And then you have Norvrandt's equivelant of Lake Silvertear also being called 'The Source' which only adds further confusion into the mix. And to say nothing of SE themselves confusing the matter back in 1.0 when Eorzea and Hydaelyn were used interchangably for the name of the world the game takes place in (rather like the Ivalice games like FFXII being wildly vague about whether Ivalice was a country, a continent or a world).

As for the 'star' thing, that's a result of Japanese phonetics with the words for planet and star being the same thing and so there is no distinction (it's actually quite common in a lot of translated anime and manga to use the word 'star' in the context of a world).

The use of 'star' to describe the planet in English is therefore just a quirk of localization (the English version being developed hand in glove with the Japanese version). It might seem odd to a modern English speaker who knows the difference between a star which is a giant ball of glowing gas and plasma undergoing nuclear fusion, and a planet that is a satellite of said ball of a gas, and that the later is in English what our world physically is in real life, but it also does show this is not our world and thus things are different there - it's all part of worldbuilding.