Did I imagine this (about Monk)

I could have sworn somewhere that with the EW changes Four point fury would now apply twin snakes rather than just extending it, but I can't see that anywhere now

Am I going crazy and did I just dream this?

I think you're mixing Monk up with Samurai/Dragoon, which are getting buffs added to their AOE combos. Monk isn't, presumably because Monk's form system lets you switch between single target and AOE seamlessly.

You say this and now I feel like I heard that too... but that's possible that I'm confusing it with another job.

Either way, even if they said it in the live letter, that was still all subject to change, so it's possible they said it would apply the buff then changed their minds. Or it's possible we're both misremembering, and even if we are, they can still choose to have it apply in the final notes.

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Originally Posted by wereotter

You say this and now I feel like I heard that too... but that's possible that I'm confusing it with another job.

Either way, even if they said it in the live letter, that was still all subject to change, so it's possible they said it would apply the buff then changed their minds. Or it's possible we're both misremembering, and even if we are, they can still choose to have it apply in the final notes.

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Haha indeed could be anything, think im just putting it down to wishful thinking, it would be super useful to not have to throw a random single target skill into your opening AOE combo

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Originally Posted by Andy_T93

Haha indeed could be anything, think im just putting it down to wishful thinking, it would be super useful to not have to throw a random single target skill into your opening AOE combo

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I'll say that if samurai and dragoon are going to have theirs applied (and not just extended) then monk should get their applied too. But we know how they like to neglect monk, so..... my expectations are low. Like, how long did it take them to add that form shift extends greased lightning after black mage got to extend its buffs with transpose?

Warrior is also getting their damage buff applied in their AoE combo. If Monk doesn't get it applied, it will be the odd one out.

https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/monk/

Just to confirm, Monk is getting their damage buff applied with Four Point Fury as well. Has been renamed Disciplined Fist.

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Originally Posted by Mikey_R

https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/monk/

Just to confirm, Monk is getting their damage buff applied with Four Point Fury as well. Has been renamed Disciplined Fist.

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Was just reading this and... they removed the Dragon Kick positional... Of course.

Thanks SE. Apparently removing two of them wasn't enough.

And and Leaden Fist crit positional. The only positionals left are closers.

I missed the removal of positionals on Opo opo stances, this isn't looking good. I could have dealt with them removing Twin Snakes and True Strike, but this is going too far.

Riddle of Earth no longer removes positional requirements, presumably because it would only affect a single weaponskill per 123 combo. But it still has three stacks that are consumed whenever you use a weaponskill.

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Originally Posted by VentVanitas

Was just reading this and... they removed the Dragon Kick positional... Of course.

Thanks SE. Apparently removing two of them wasn't enough.

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Nah, we'll be fine.
Removing or not, it doesn't matter.
I'm sure most of us here are still doing the postionals like they are still exists.
We're more comfortable that way.

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Originally Posted by Kahnom

Nah, we'll be fine.
Removing or not, it doesn't matter.
I'm sure most of us here are still doing the postionals like they are still exists.
We're more comfortable that way.

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For sure.. I suppose we will have to see how this Blitz system is. Maybe the changes were justified, but maybe not.

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Originally Posted by Morzy

For sure.. I suppose we will have to see how this Blitz system is. Maybe the changes were justified, but maybe not.

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I'm inclined to think not. The only skill to weave between our rotation now is forbidden chakra. Elixir Field and Tornado Kick have been relegated to blitzes. The job already felt kind of hollow when GL was changed to a trait, and further gutting out the job to add in a blitz every 40 seconds isn't terribly exciting.


MAYBE this would be a little better if the window was every 20 seconds like ninjutsu, I'd even take half potency on the blitz attacks to add to the engagement a little. But we can already see this probably wouldn't be enough as ninja mains have been saying how the job is very dull between trick attack windows, and they still had not only the ninjutsu, but also ninki attacks. I can already predict that monk will need more changes pretty quickly in order to add some degree of engagement.

A simple solution would be to add back the positional requirements and add the true north effect to the three charges of perfect balance. No need to worry about the positionals for blitzes if the skill that starts a blitz negates the need to move for them.

See this I agree with and feel it is a much more valid concern, I am super sad about the loss of so many OGCD's feel like they could have just gone straight to Phantom Rush and let us keep Tornado kick