Schedule Updates Following the Postponement of Endwalker’s Release

https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...b0068b6d9a729e

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We would like to share updates on how the recently announced delay for Endwalker will affect ongoing events and campaigns.

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Moogle Treasure Trove: The Hunt for Lore

As previously announced, the event is scheduled to be available until the beginning of Patch 6.0 maintenance, which is scheduled to begin at the start of Early Access.

All Saints’ Wake Seasonal Event

With the postponement of the release of Endwalker, the All Saints’ Wake seasonal event is scheduled to be held around late January 2022. The Starlight Celebration and Heavensturn are scheduled to be held during their usual timing, and further details regarding each event will be announced later.

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I got to say, it strikes me very odd how All Saints’ Wake will be so delayed (november to late january) but Starlight Celebration and Heavensturn is on schedule.

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Originally Posted by Sotaris

I got to say, it strikes me very odd how All Saints’ Wake will be so delayed (november to late january) but Starlight Celebration and Heavensturn is on schedule.

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It's being delayed because the files and data for the event won't be uploaded to the game servers until early access launches. There's no maintenance planned until then, and they'd have to take the game down to force a version update. Thematically it's already too late at that point to run ASW and they'll want everyone to play the new MSQ anyways, so the most acceptable solution to the devs was to place it after Heavensturn and before Valentione's.

All Saints' Wake has already missed its proper season, so it makes more sense to delay that one event further than to try to squeeze it in ahead of the two other events scheduled to run in December-January and push them all out of time.

Also, even if the Saints' Wake event files were separate from the 6.0 patch, running it as scheduled in the first half of December would mean the event decorations (and music zones) are up in the starter cities at the point where they're potentially being used as an MSQ setting. I'd rather that not be the case, so I'm glad it's been moved away from the new expansion release date.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

All Saints' Wake has already missed its proper season, so it makes more sense to delay that one event further than to try to squeeze it in ahead of the two other events scheduled to run in December-January and push them all out of time.

Also, even if the Saints' Wake event files were separate from the 6.0 patch, running it as scheduled in the first half of December would mean the event decorations (and music zones) are up in the starter cities at the point where they're potentially being used as an MSQ setting. I'd rather that not be the case, so I'm glad it's been moved away from the new expansion release date.

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Yeah I can understand that. It just you know, odd seeing a fall event in middle of the winter but that's me.

There is no win in this situation, probably more people get upset if they cancel it again so we'll have 2 Saint's event in 2022 I guess.

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Originally Posted by Sotaris

I got to say, it strikes me very odd how All Saints’ Wake will be so delayed (november to late january) but Starlight Celebration and Heavensturn is on schedule.

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Yeah I'm kind of salty about that. He did make a comment on stream that Eorzea collectively decided to delay that event, but why not also the other two?

December would be quite full if they just pushed it through anyways.

Since alongside the christmas event and new years, there's also 6.01 to release the first set of Pandemonium raids which will likely be on the 21st, 2 weeks after the official release date.

Cramming in 3 seasonal events, an expansion launch and a content patch into one month feels like it would be a bit much.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

Yeah I'm kind of salty about that. He did make a comment on stream that Eorzea collectively decided to delay that event, but why not also the other two?

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Why would you delay three events when you can just delay one? And of the three, all saints' wake is the least time sensitive, with Heavensturn being the most time sensitive.

Well in regards to the all saints wake event. Since the original date was also i believe set after the EW launch I'd guess something they planned on it requires code from EW to function meaning EW pushed back = it gets pushed back too. The EW rescheduling didn't have it cross the expected dates for heaven's turn and starlight so they stayed the same.

Kinda wish they'd moved Starlight instead, but I freely admit that that's just because the sheer vitriol that would come from moving the Christmas event away from Christmas would be hilarious. I'm a jerk.

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Originally Posted by linayar

Why would you delay three events when you can just delay one? And of the three, all saints' wake is the least time sensitive, with Heavensturn being the most time sensitive.

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Because even if it's not based on Halloween, it's a festival themed around the harvest and Eorzea has shown to roughly follow the same seasons as Earth. So their harvest would be before their snowfall. It doesn't really make sense for them to have their harvest festival in the middle of winter.

Eorzea also has a very flexible notion of the passage of time. It's still only five years or so after the Calamity, after all.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

Because even if it's not based on Halloween, it's a festival themed around the harvest and Eorzea has shown to roughly follow the same seasons as Earth. So their harvest would be before their snowfall. It doesn't really make sense for them to have their harvest festival in the middle of winter.

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Is the Eorzean event a harvest festival? I thought it was primarily driven by the spooky circus coming to town, regardless of whether they come in autumn or some other time.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Kinda wish they'd moved Starlight instead, but I freely admit that that's just because the sheer vitriol that would come from moving the Christmas event away from Christmas would be hilarious. I'm a jerk.

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It's gonna be weird to have snow weather at city state and housing area that isn't December lol

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

Because even if it's not based on Halloween, it's a festival themed around the harvest and Eorzea has shown to roughly follow the same seasons as Earth. So their harvest would be before their snowfall. It doesn't really make sense for them to have their harvest festival in the middle of winter.

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I don't know about that. The name of the event itself does not relate to harvest at all, though I suppose the pumpkin would be the part of the harvest theme. Then again, a "wake" is fine for a winter theme, which is the dead season, including dead pumpkins.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Is the Eorzean event a harvest festival? I thought it was primarily driven by the spooky circus coming to town, regardless of whether they come in autumn or some other time.

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There's that too, I suppose.

Honestly, while I know the social reasons for it, this is why I'd rather in-game seasonal events have less to do with real life events.

That's why...

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Kinda wish they'd moved Starlight instead, but I freely admit that that's just because the sheer vitriol that would come from moving the Christmas event away from Christmas would be hilarious. I'm a jerk.

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I'd be fine with this if a delay is needed for Starlight. It's just that, once again, if they don't need to delay it, then there's no need to.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Is the Eorzean event a harvest festival? I thought it was primarily driven by the spooky circus coming to town, regardless of whether they come in autumn or some other time.

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Adding to this, even if taken at face value. That same argument could be applied to Starlight and Heavensturm, especially the latter which centers around the zodiac animals. So we're right back to where we started, delaying three seasonal events instead of one that has already missed it's date.

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Originally Posted by DrWho2010

It's being delayed because the files and data for the event won't be uploaded to the game servers until early access launches. There's no maintenance planned until then, and they'd have to take the game down to force a version update. Thematically it's already too late at that point to run ASW and they'll want everyone to play the new MSQ anyways, so the most acceptable solution to the devs was to place it after Heavensturn and before Valentione's.

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There's also the fact we usually get some expansions NPCs as "skins" in ASW, and there're a chance that they already included 6.0 ones to the list.

And since Heavensturn and Starlight don't cross with release dates, there's simply no need to push them later.

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Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

Adding to this, even if taken at face value. That same argument could be applied to Starlight and Heavensturm, especially the latter which centers around the zodiac animals. So we're right back to where we started, delaying three seasonal events instead of one that has already missed it's date.

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Starlight is specifically a winter festival, and Heavensturn isn't just about "the zodiac" but an animal being chosen to rule the zodiac for the new year. So both are tied to their times of year and it's better to keep them in place.

That said, I looked up the very first Saints' Wake event script and it does talk about being a harvest festival originally. Still, once it's been moved away from autumn it's no stranger whether it ends up in early winter or late winter or spring.

Well if they can do Christmas in July, then nothing wrong with Halloween in January.

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Originally Posted by linayar

Why would you delay three events when you can just delay one? And of the three, all saints' wake is the least time sensitive, with Heavensturn being the most time sensitive.

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Why would heavensturn be more time sensitive than saint's?

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Originally Posted by Sotaris

Why would heavensturn be more time sensitive than saint's?

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Going by the name alone, Heavensturn has a more direct reference to a specific time of the year than All Saints' Wake.

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Originally Posted by linayar

Going by the name alone, Heavensturn has a more direct reference to a specific time of the year than All Saints' Wake.

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Does it though? If we assume Saint's still tied to harvest then that would tie to fall and there is not fall in january.
So if we go with that, both is time sensitive?

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Originally Posted by Sotaris

Why would heavensturn be more time sensitive than saint's?

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Because SE is a Japanese company. And New Years is a very important part of Japanese culture. Where as christmas in Japan is little more than a comercial import from the west.
Thus it stands to reason they would prioritize the in game event based on the former over that based on the later.

EDIT: mixed up what events you were talkign about. Still the same point applies to halloween as for Christmas

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Originally Posted by Sotaris

Does it though? If we assume Saint's still tied to harvest then that would tie to fall and there is not fall in january.
So if we go with that, both is time sensitive?

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Yeah, but the harvest connection isn't really reflected at all by the name. Saints' wake would fit a winter setting just as much a fall setting, or really any arbitrary day of the year you want to have a wake for whatever saints. Heavensturn has a clearer association to a new year, so even more specific time of the year than a season.

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Originally Posted by Sani2341

Because SE is a Japanese company. And New Years is a very important part of Japanese culture. Where as christmas in Japan is little more than a comercial import from the west.
Thus it stands to reason they would prioritize the in game event based on the former over that based on the later.

EDIT: mixed up what events you were talkign about. Still the same point applies to halloween as for Christmas

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Alright, that's a good point I suppose.
As someone from the west where neither of the three has a great importanance other than we associate them to fall, christmas and new years I think all is equally important in terms on when they happen.

So it wasn't a dig on anything other than wanted clearification why one is more time senstive over another.

At this point they should just cancel All saints wake event and make they Starlight event one better.

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Originally Posted by hynaku

At this point they should just cancel All saints wake event and make they Starlight event one better.

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At this point, cancelling All Saints' Wake would just be a waste of the time they've already spent on it.

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Originally Posted by hynaku

At this point they should just cancel All saints wake event

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You and I are enemies now.