Is gathering bugged?

I've noticed that even when on the sweet spot, you have a tendency to hit materials other than what your are looking for. To illustrate my point, I was logging in Skull Valley aiming for ash branches for the GC quota this week, I am a lv 38 btn. At that level, my gear shouldn't be an issue, and I would think that I would be guaranteed a high chance of getting the mats I want. (if not a 100% chance) Instead, I'm getting large quantities of cock feathers and ash logs, pretty much everything but the ash branches I'm aiming for. What gives?

You're always going to get some spillover, but generally over the long run you end up with more of what you're aiming for. I know when I'm fishing for a particular fish, it always feels like I'm getting nothing but everything else, but after 4 hours of fishing I always have way more of what I was aiming for to begin with.

It doesn't take 4 hours of gathering to see the difference, but overall it's a "long run" kind of thing.

Then again all I do is fish, so there is a chance botany is bugged. Just adding my observations.

What grade are you gathering at, if its 4 I would check if you can get them at grade 5s, I know when mining Nophicas wells (grade 4) has a terrible electrum ore rate even at the sweet spot, but Halatali (grade 5) is alot better.

To gather grade 5s at a decent rate you may need to do some lvling but some lvl 40 leves will lvl you in no time.

The sweet spot does not = 100% chance of an item


Look at it like this

at the default spot you get

39% silver
40% iron
30% stiperstone
1% kidney ore

you bump it down to -4(kidneys sweet spot)

and it becomes

30% iron
30% silver
30% stiperstone
10% kidney


all the sweet spot is, is the best % chance to get that item, it doesnt mean its all you will get

FWIW I upped my perception to 117 @ lvl 50 and I am seeing a much better hit rate on the items I want.

I dunno if its coincidence or not though.

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Originally Posted by Jinko

FWIW I upped my perception to 117 @ lvl 50 and I am seeing a much better hit rate on the items I want.

I dunno if its coincidence or not though.

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Could be coincidence everywhere I have read all it says perception does is increase HQ rate, but it could be true, and no one has put it online, might have to try it out.

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Originally Posted by Delsus

Could be coincidence everywhere I have read all it says perception does is increase HQ rate, but it could be true, and no one has put it online, might have to try it out.

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perception raises how many items drop

so if the rate is 1-3, youll see 3 more liekly the higher your perception is

thats what it does

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Originally Posted by Delsus

What grade are you gathering at, if its 4 I would check if you can get them at grade 5s, I know when mining Nophicas wells (grade 4) has a terrible electrum ore rate even at the sweet spot, but Halatali (grade 5) is alot better.

To gather grade 5s at a decent rate you may need to do some lvling but some lvl 40 leves will lvl you in no time.

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I had said I was gathering at skull valley, that's grade 2. at my level, I can log grade 5, so like I said, my gear/level is not an issue.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

perception raises how many items drop

so if the rate is 1-3, youll see 3 more liekly the higher your perception is

thats what it does

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Perception only affects HQ rates. Quantity is affected by one of your base stats (INT/MND/PIE).

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post415358

Might help with what stats do what.

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Originally Posted by Raldo

Perception only affects HQ rates. Quantity is affected by one of your base stats (INT/MND/PIE).

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I thought Output affected Quantity and Perception affected chance of HQ?

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Originally Posted by Asiaine

I thought Output affected Quantity and Perception affected chance of HQ?

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Perception is the only stat not effected by attributes as far as I know, but output and Gathering do have an attribute that effect them based on your DoL.

STR/INT for Botanist
VIT/MND for Miner
DEX/PIE for Fishing.
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Output effects the amounts of attempts you can get based on grade of node as well as the amount you can obtain.
Perception is pretty much HQ rate
Gathering is difficulty of obtaining said item

no... Raldo is right...
from ask Dev: these parts never changed since that

Q.
What exactly do Disciple of the Land–specific attributes affect?
A.
Please refer to the following:
Gathering: Reduces the depletion rate of the Remainder gauge.
Perception: Increases a player's chance to find higher-quality items.
Output:
Increases the amount of times a miner or botanist can gather at a single point, as well as reduces the amount of time a fisher must wait for a bite.


each spot has common items and rare items, so if you get lots common items, that's normal... TheVedis' example is very good.

Only downside to stacking Output when your higher rank is the number of attempts you get in deminishing (You cap out) and most of the items your targeting are "Rare" so you will only ever get one at a time.

I personally stack perception due to gathering not being something you need to focus on once you know the 2-3 hit zones on the notch your on. Although it does seem that perception has a cap ~10% HQ rate, not sure if those Militia items would bump it up to 20% due to the description.

I wish if you went over a certain amount of output you could make those items that only give 1 have a chance to give 2. So having something like 200 output could make that happen would make gathering have a little more room for depth.