Garlond Ironworks questions

Hello everyone I was wondering where to find lore about the inner working of the Garlond Ironworks such as its structure, hierarchy, non-military ventures, and other contracts?

Encyclopedia Eorzea has a section on Garlond Ironworks but doesn't have much info besides short bios on Cid, Biggs, Wedge and Jessie

They still retain with mundane imperial construction of Magitecks except emphasizing for the greater good & innovation are their motto vs. Industrial might for conquest & power such is for the imperials

Yeah I do know that much I just didn't know if we knew anything more in depth about the organization or not :D

bit late to this one, but I have a lore dump on the Garlond Ironworks in this post:

https://mirkemenagerie.tumblr.com/po...advancement-of

ctrl+f "ironworks"

Other contracts/products: I know they make coffee makers? lol The boilermaster (3k?) has been mentioned in a few short stories, the MSQ, and I think Omega. Devs love their coffee and tea, I guess. lol

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Originally Posted by Sounsyy

bit late to this one, but I have a lore dump on the Garlond Ironworks in this post:

https://mirkemenagerie.tumblr.com/po...advancement-of

ctrl+f "ironworks"

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This does make me wonder though...who was Cid's mother? Not for a case of "how important is she?" but more of general curiosity. Was she just a normal woman Midas fell in love with, was she too an engineer, etc etc.

I deeply desire to know who Cid's mother was, as well.

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Originally Posted by MoonPrism

I deeply desire to know who Cid's mother was, as well.

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I regret to tell you, you've revived this thread only to get a very disappointing answer: at this point we can probably reason that we'll never get this information, because it's not important. Cid's one of the characters that's been around longer than the live game; if they've never even named his mom, I think it's safe to say it's because there's nothing to really say about her.

Not every corner of a fictional world gets colored in.

We might get a name drop someday, but never an appearance. Garlean moms are illegal.

ROFL now that you mention it, Garlean females really are rare, aren't they?

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

ROFL now that you mention it, Garlean females really are rare, aren't they?

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It's not quite as bad as you'd think, it's roughly a two-to-one split (I counted ten prominent male Garleans and five female but am also certain I missed some). It might be notable that the ladies were front-loaded while the men were back-loaded, though; they were at about three each in Heavensward. The reason for those probably come from the fact that once they started actually exploring the Empire, the prominent women were usually the people for which we explored how they treated occupied nations and people; Fordola, Yotsuyu, Misija, Gaius' adopted daughter. Make of that choice what you will, but it definitely explains why the numbers come out how they do.

It hardly seems to be a deliberate decision, and it's definitely not as bad as certain other neglected character types or groups dominated by certain designs in the game ('Scions Recruit Someone Who's Not Well-Read, Fair-Skinned And With White/Blond Hair' Challenge, Impossible). I think you could make an explanation for it if you wanted; the Garlean Empire definitely seems kinda chauvinist, and our contact points are mostly military so we're seeing less women because they get promoted less. But really, I don't think it's that deliberate, complicated, or even that bad a situation.

We've been shown Lucia, Livia, the Soranus Sisters(Annia and Julia or w/e), Severa, Nael Deus Darnus, and Vergilia van Corculum. 7 notable ladies, all warriors, all combatants. All MSQ'd up.

I suppose there were a few lady Garleans in the level 83 sidequests. But MSQ wise no Garlean Moms allowed!

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Originally Posted by Vyrerus

We've been shown Lucia, Livia, the Soranus Sisters(Annia and Julia or w/e), Severa, Nael Deus Darnus, and Vergilia van Corculum. 7 notable ladies, all warriors, all combatants. All MSQ'd up.

I suppose there were a few lady Garleans in the level 83 sidequests. But MSQ wise no Garlean Moms allowed!

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I knew I missed some! It was the Soranus sisters. So yeah, it's actually not a far stretch away from equal. (My men were Cid, Gaius, Varis, Regula, Zenos, Maxima, Gabranth, Varros, Jullus and Quintus; I don't count Emet because he wouldn't count himself.)

And yeah, no Garlean moms, but... honestly we've got very few moms at all. It's F'lhaminn, Ameliance, Moenbryda's mom, and that's kinda it. If I had to pinpoint a reason for that, it's probably because the game's character creator is kinda bad at depicting that general age range for women, it's hard for them to make a female character who plausibly looks like she could be old enough to have a kid who has some level of agency without being a grandma. Men they generally do fine with; Count Fortemps, Gaius, Fourchenault, they're all plausibly in the Dad Age Range. But women... yeah, not really; Ameliance seems to be aging a lot better than her husband, while F'lhaminn looks rather older than her actual age of 37. Looks great when you leapfrog that age range entirely and we get someone like Drusilla, though.

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Originally Posted by Cleretic

It's F'lhaminn, Ameliance, Moenbryda's mom, and that's kinda it.

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There's also Matoya, Nashu(technically due to Gigi), Julyanne Manderville, the Sahagin Queens, the mom who dies in Thavnair EW, Tiamat, Tiomann, Countess Ystride de Caulignont(Rielle's mom), Temulun, the Dotharl that's mentioned to be pregnant(has a name I'm sure, just my recall IS limited), Fordola's Mum in the Echo flashbacks, Yotsuyu's mum(Doman), and a few more I think. (Oh yeah! Yugiri's mom(and dad))

Now, they're not all MSQ nor fully fleshed out. But there is a veritable cornucopia of not-Garlean Moms.

You mean Eula Darnus. Bradamante (I know it's a spear but it is named after the real Nael's betrothed). Geva Storke the Leather worker's guild master is a mother. If we count side minor characters there's Averil's mother in the Heavensward weaver quest. Then there is Elaisse Poole, Handeloup de Daimbaux and Leofard's adoptive mother Raimille.

Edit Handeloup who still looks baby faced imo is a dad. Just wanted to clarify. Parents in general just don't exist really. Until Pandeamonium I had all sorts of ways my brain went with questions on how Ancients reproduced. Like were they like Asari where there isn't a concept of mother and father, or did they also know how to clone, are they like some aquatic life that produced asexually? So, yes until Eric went all I hate my dad and Themis was all I'm just not close at all to mine (which I read as that being more so the norm then not) I did wonder about family structures and the like.

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Originally Posted by Vyrerus

There's also Matoya, Nashu(technically due to Gigi), Julyanne Manderville, the Sahagin Queens, the mom who dies in Thavnair EW, Tiamat, Tiomann, Countess Ystride de Caulignont(Rielle's mom), Temulun, the Dotharl that's mentioned to be pregnant(has a name I'm sure, just my recall IS limited), Fordola's Mum in the Echo flashbacks, Yotsuyu's mum(Doman), and a few more I think. (Oh yeah! Yugiri's mom(and dad))

Now, they're not all MSQ nor fully fleshed out. But there is a veritable cornucopia of not-Garlean Moms.

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I'm gonna be honest, very few of them are remotely major characters, a couple of them aren't even remotely human, and a good amount of them do enter what I'd call the 'Grandma Zone'.

Fair point that there's a good amount of them, but I'd also note that the characters you listed are ALSO very skewed; they're all midlander hyur, au ra, or literal dragons, with one single elezen, roegadyn or miqo'te each as an exception (I do not count Nashu, for multiple reasons). Nevermind the Garlean moms, we've got more dragon moms than we do moms for more than half the races in the game! I think, if this representation is truly what's important to you, that this evidence calls for much wider Mom Diversity across the board!

You heard Cleretic, SE. WE NEED MOAR MOMS OF EVERY TYPE!