I'm sick and tired of the MB players buying an entire listings for specific products and then lobbing it all back twice as expensive AND in 99-stacks. Imagine choosing desired quantity and paying only for items you want ....
Specific amount of items available anytime soon?
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10-05-2021, 11:42 PMHuaTuoSpecific amount of items available anytime soon?
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10-06-2021, 02:20 AMBrightamethyst
People suggest this fairly often but it's not that simple. Buying in any quantity heavily favors buyers while hurting sellers. A random person selling a random item they got from a quick venture may not be affected, but the actual material suppliers sell things in specific quantities for a reason, and they don't want to be stuck with extra items any more than you do.
Just look at the real world. If I walk into a store I can buy a single candy bar, or a big bag of 30 candy bars, but I can't say "well I only want 10" and rip open the bag to take only what I want. I'll get kicked out of the store if I do that. The store and the candy company clearly wanted to sell things in those specific quantities. You may not like it, but that's not the store's problem. -
10-06-2021, 06:47 AMHuaTuoexcept you can't because they only have 99-candybar packs!!! Which is my problem exactly. I'd happily buy 10 of them individually :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Brightamethyst
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10-06-2021, 07:13 AMJojoya
Consider it an opportunity for profit by going out, gathering the item yourself then selling off what you don't need to other players who also only want the small stacks.
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10-06-2021, 10:38 AMAuridaIt'd be fantastic if the market system was only ten years out of date instead of twenty, yeah. Adding both the ability to buy partial stacks and the ability to create buy orders would be a humongous step forward- no more specifically tailoring stacks of stuff I'm selling using 15 retainer slots, can just put stacks of 99 up and let people pick off what they need.Quote:
Originally Posted by HuaTuo
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10-06-2021, 11:06 AMIckeDerTyp
But... Who's going to buy my 6x dye stacks? :S
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10-06-2021, 12:45 PMCanadane1.0 allowed buying partial amounts!Quote:
Originally Posted by Aurida
This was a deliberate change they did for ARR.
Also SE bring back my personal bazaar! ;-; -
10-06-2021, 01:29 PMAuridaIt also allowed repairing other peoples' gear, and those are about the only two things worth going back and retrieving. But also they should add buy orders.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canadane
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10-06-2021, 10:13 PMHuaTuohonestly this would be such a quality of life improvement.. Like I feel genuinely sorry for new people sometimes, the amounts of Gil for items can often seem staggering, if you need just this one Vitriol vial, and what you see is 99 of them for a quarter of a mil.. Some1 should put an advice for people to not bother leveling a crafter before gatherers xDQuote:
Originally Posted by Aurida
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10-07-2021, 04:46 AMIllmaeranBetter yet, level them all at the same time. It takes longer, but it's easier in the grand scheme of things.Quote:
Originally Posted by HuaTuo
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10-08-2021, 01:12 AMLiam_HarperAs a seller, I'd gladly take the hit. QoL and access to items should not be withheld from players so we can make a tiny bit more profit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brightamethyst
There are far bigger issues for sellers anyway, such as crafting and gathering being far too easy so supply is through the roof and bots being rampant. I'd rather they addressed that instead of denying QoL. -
10-12-2021, 02:42 AMKes13aproblem is, how much will that QoL improvement aid the bots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liam_Harper
I'll happily put up with no QoL improvements if it means the bots get inconvenienced -
10-12-2021, 07:39 AMJojoyaDoubt adding the ability to buy partial stacks or even buy orders would make a significant difference for bots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kes13a
As for no QOL for the sake of inconveniencing bots, it would kill the game because it would become too tedious for players while doing nothing to the bots because tedium has zero effect on their ability to function.
If you want to inconvenience the bots, get rid of those who pay to benefit from their existence. Going to be really inconvenient if they don't have any customers. -
10-12-2021, 10:28 PMKes13ayeah, I agree. ban the buyers. since bots are "too elusive to be caught" according to some, then the only alternative is to ban the buyers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jojoya
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11-09-2021, 02:37 AMSillyCrow
You can buy the stack of 50, then relist the leftover 40 on the market board. It's not hard.
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11-09-2021, 05:51 AMJojoyaMost buyers aren't interested in wasting their time and gil fixing your overstock mistake. They'll get what they need elsewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by SillyCrow
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11-10-2021, 12:27 AMKageTokage
I honestly kind of hope they DON'T add this function because selling in smaller quantities tends to be one of the easiest ways to compete against the RMTers/botters flooding the food/potion market as they cannot simply automate undercuts for stackable items.
Though of course, that shouldn't even be necessary in the first place. -
11-10-2021, 02:14 AMEorzeaWanderer
I would prefer not to have this feature.
The reason being, as a seller there are only a small number of ways you can distinguish your listings other than just having a cheaper price:
- NQ vs. HQ
- slotted materia in gear
- adjusting stack sizes/quantities along with price
The market system is pretty simplistic already, and stack sizes are one of the main ways to differentiate your goods from those of other sellers.
As others have said above, buyers do want smaller stack sizes sometimes, which leaves opportunities for sellers to serve that group as well.
Take that dynamic away and the markets just get less interesting, in my opinion. -
11-10-2021, 10:33 AMBladehawkIf they are going to go get it elsewhere then the system is working fine and should not be changed. No partial stack selling please.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jojoya