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Yep, that about sums up healer gameplay in EW.

At least, it'll be smoother to weave support and healing abilities between each Glare which is something is a really good QoL for WHM.
Won't change that we still Glare a lot indeed, but better than holding certain abilities for weaving windows.

That's the state WHM is in. Someone on the development team looked at a "2.5" in a database, clicked between the "2" and the ".", pressed backspace once, and ironically pressed the 1 key that everyone still playing WHM is going to press a collective billion times over the course of Endwalker. That's what's considered "good design". Something WHM mains complained about for two years, and they couldn't be bothered to do for all of Shadowbringers. Thank god, the class is saved.

Anyone have a guess what the plant shaped like a heart in water fountain was from the job actions trailer?

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Originally Posted by tinythinker

Anyone have a guess what the plant shaped like a heart in water fountain was from the job actions trailer?

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people been comparing it to star but i doubt it does damage
its probably just an AOE that throws out a couple cure III/AOE heal over time

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Originally Posted by KDSilver

At least, it'll be smoother to weave support and healing abilities between each Glare which is something is a really good QoL for WHM.
Won't change that we still Glare a lot indeed, but better than holding certain abilities for weaving windows.

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You can now get fed up of dpsing without clipping issues.


Honestly, good. I'm absolutely fine with a shorter nuke cast.

Still doesn't change the fact that Glarebroil spam isn't interesting gameplay, no matter how easy it and smooth it is

Funny thing is WHM was already on the higher end for healer dps.
Sage is being called a dps that heals, but I suspect this change will keep this one button damage class up with them.

As good, or bad, as that is.

Cast time reduction = best QoL change to happen to the healer role in forever
Divine Benison charges = only good because cast time reduction
Holy 2? = better still stun
Healing fountain = did WHM really need more heals? Give us more of literally anything to do that is not healing

Would have loved to see Fluid Aura stay and just have a new effect like generate a free Lily, like watering a flower, or something.

So horribly, terribly, woefully boring.

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Originally Posted by BlueMageQuina

Cast time reduction = best QoL change to happen to the healer role in forever
Divine Benison charges = only good because cast time reduction
Holy 2? = better still stun
Healing fountain = did WHM really need more heals? Give us more of literally anything to do that is not healing

Would have loved to see Fluid Aura stay and just have a new effect like generate a free Lily, like watering a flower, or something.

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Considering how none of their job dev team really mains healers, it all make sense now why healer design has come down to what we have (and will get in EW). Combine that with their ignorance, all we can do is just Glare, literally & figuratively.

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

Considering how none of their job dev team really mains healers, it all make sense now why healer design has come down to what we have (and will get in EW). Combine that with their ignorance, all we can do is just Glare, literally & figuratively.

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I read enough of these forums to know there's little correlation between maining healers and being able to design them.

They're DPS mains, and yet only two of the DPS jobs have been consistently well designed over every expansion.

Yeah, that's about accurate, although I toss in more Regens every now and then too. Many fights don't require continuous healing, so really limited DPS attacks end up being a majority of my time as a White Mage, which gets really boring really quickly; I wish there wasn't such a villainization of attacking as a healer even when it's the most practical thing to do a lot of the time, but that became especially apparent after seeing Energy Drain's potency lowered specifically for reasons related to unsuccessfully limiting how often Scholars attack.

Limiting DPS actions without making fights require more continuous healing doesn't mean that healers will DPS less; it just means that they'll have more repetitive gameplay during those periods of attacking.

Completely removing the thing that kept WHM interesting in making use of the limited weaving windows to optimize movement. Clipping could've been addressed more elegantly but this is just murdering one of WHM's core identity features it's beyond me how it's "good QoL" for so many people.

Hey, don't attack Glare. WHM is so powerful they can kill things simply by standing there and looking at them angrily. How can you be mad at that? :p

what? this doesn't represent whm gameplay at all!
it's *precast glare, dia, assize, presence of mind*! you're losing all that assize cooldown without fitting it into the dia weave window /j

And it's not changing because the Devs are good with how things are /shrugs.

If you don't like it play a different job.

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Originally Posted by ZedxKayn

Clipping could've been addressed more elegantly but this is just murdering one of WHM's core identity features it's beyond me how it's "good QoL" for so many people.

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When did clipping become an identity?

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Originally Posted by Roeshel

When did clipping become an identity?

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Clipping wasn't an identity duh, but being immobile and needing to make good use of your tools to be where you need to be when you need to be was a big part of WHM's identity.
They could've added something like triple cast or a GCD with a unique cooldown à la drill to both keep the movement resource management and address the clipping without basically turning it into AST.

OP is wrong.

Forgot a Glare.

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Originally Posted by Roeshel

When did clipping become an identity?

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WHM's "identity" is finding ways to work around the weaknesses in your horribly designed kit. Actually managing things that have positive effects on your experience in combat is for every other job in the game.

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Originally Posted by Semirhage

That's the state WHM is in. Someone on the development team looked at a "2.5" in a database, clicked between the "2" and the ".", pressed backspace once, and ironically pressed the 1 key that everyone still playing WHM is going to press a collective billion times over the course of Endwalker. That's what's considered "good design". Something WHM mains complained about for two years, and they couldn't be bothered to do for all of Shadowbringers. Thank god, the class is saved.

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I like the change, but this is the kind of thing so many people argue is "what'll make the expansion good!" / "such a huge change! It's the best thing we should expect to get!" as if it's an Expansion-level change, esp. with Scholar because of the lack of... well, much else. God forbid they introduce something to break up the monotony of Glare / Broil / Malefic spam and, in the case of Scholar, add an interesting graphic effect to ANYTHING.

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Originally Posted by Folsom

I like the change, but this is the kind of thing so many people argue is "what'll make the expansion good!" / "such a huge change! It's the best thing we should expect to get!" as if it's an Expansion-level change, esp. with Scholar because of the lack of... well, much else. God forbid they introduce something to break up the monotony of Glare / Broil / Malefic spam and, in the case of Scholar, add an interesting graphic effect to ANYTHING.

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This! After the job actions trailer popped up, I feel like I've seen everything!

All these people are like "This is unprecedented! HUGE! Y'all can attack AND heal now!" As if good healers couldn't do that in the first place.

Then, they have the nerve to say that we're ungrateful after we question how any of that solves the 1 button spam.

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Originally Posted by EmpyreanHelios

This! After the job actions trailer popped up, I feel like I've seen everything!

All these people are like "This is unprecedented! HUGE! Y'all can attack AND heal now!" As if good healers couldn't do that in the first place.

Then, they have the nerve to say that we're ungrateful after we question how any of that solves the 1 button spam.

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It's because those people couldn't heal and dps before the change...they probably still won't be able to after the change. It's simply the state of a lot of people playing healer, their gameplay consists of 40% Cure 2, Medica 2, maybe a Lilly ability and 60% Netflix.