Just wait for tooltips

We should give them the benefit of the doubt. Until we see the tooltips and play it ourselves, we can't say anything about the changes and additions.

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It smells of Copium in here.

Wait until 6.1 they'll see our complaints and surely do something.

You mean like we've been doing for more than 4 years right.
Yeah sure.

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Originally Posted by WhyAmIHere

It smells of Copium in here.

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At this point it’s a healer Vietnam flashback when ever we hear wait for ……..

"There wasn't much we could do with SCH" as a official statement tells me PLENTY.

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

Wait until 6.1 they'll see our complaints and surely do something.

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That’s like the stuff people told us since 3 expansion and it didn’t do or help anything.

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Originally Posted by Raylazer11

"There wasn't much we could do with SCH" as a official statement tells me PLENTY.

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Or the better version is just play sage lol

"Just wait until the 5.3 balance patch."

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Originally Posted by FoxCh40s

"Just wait until the 5.3 balance patch."

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Just wait until the next expansion for a rework.

Free yourself from the Stockholm syndrome. Play a DPS. They actually give a damn about that role. I'm telling you. You're going to have more fun within a day.

It isnt copium. It's facts. They've established the possibility of sch having more raid utility then sge with the abilities they've mentioned. I don't care about the arguments of the classes are ruined because they don't conform to your desire when that will be ultimately a matter of opinion. What I care about is if the numbers back up whether or not they did what they said with adjusting the healers.

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Originally Posted by Rubiss

Just wait until the next expansion for a rework.

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"Have faith in Square Enix, they know what they're doing. Wait until the Media Tour"

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Originally Posted by Semirhage

Free yourself from the Stockholm syndrome. Play a DPS. They actually give a damn about that role. I'm telling you. You're going to have more fun within a day.

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Totally going to

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

Wait until 6.1 they'll see our complaints and surely do something.

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Wait until 7.0 for sure this time they'll make the changes we asked.

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Originally Posted by Brandedblade

It isnt copium. It's facts. They've established the possibility of sch having more raid utility then sge with the abilities they've mentioned. I don't care about the arguments of the classes are ruined because they don't conform to your desire when that will be ultimately a matter of opinion. What I care about is if the numbers back up whether or not they did what they said with adjusting the healers.

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copium is dangerous man.

if "raid utility" is peloton, then either it becomes a must-have (which means SCH is an auto-include in any raid), or useless as content would have to be able to be cleared without it (as is already the case). They couldn't imagine reintroducing quickened aetherflow? What about Fey Wind? Or literally any other kind of buff like a parallel to chain stratagem that increases direct hit rate for all allies?

They put no thought in to SCH in any way meaningful, clearly.

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Originally Posted by Semirhage

Free yourself from the Stockholm syndrome. Play a DPS. They actually give a damn about that role. I'm telling you. You're going to have more fun within a day.

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I have the change to play on of the meeles and caster expect summoner and dragoon and at this point I’m gonna do it 100%

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Free yourself from the Stockholm syndrome. Play a DPS. They actually give a damn about that role. I'm telling you. You're going to have more fun within a day.

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I need to add my name to the wall of "I quit healers" post

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It isnt copium. It's facts. They've established the possibility of sch having more raid utility then sge with the abilities they've mentioned. I don't care about the arguments of the classes are ruined because they don't conform to your desire when that will be ultimately a matter of opinion. What I care about is if the numbers back up whether or not they did what they said with adjusting the healers.

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I mean, the numbers are definitely something to watch. Mashing one button eighty gajillion times with no interactivity or decision-making is also the nadir in gameplay design, and I don't think that's quiiiiiite all down to individual taste.

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Originally Posted by EaMett

Wait until 7.0 for sure this time they'll make the changes we asked.

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7.01 emergency maintenance at the absolute latest.

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7.01 emergency maintenance at the absolute latest.

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That's been delayed, to when? When Egi Glamour comes. Please look forward to it.

We know GCD is 1.5s now. That's enough for identity to be gone.

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Originally Posted by FoxCh40s

That's been delayed, to when? When Egi Glamour comes. Please look forward to it.

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I mean they solved egi glamour by removing the egi :'D

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Originally Posted by FilDaFunk

We know GCD is 1.5s now. That's enough for identity to be gone.

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1,5s cast was not an identity thing to begin with lol.

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Originally Posted by WhyAmIHere

if "raid utility" is peloton, then either it becomes a must-have (which means SCH is an auto-include in any raid), or useless as content would have to be able to be cleared without it

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It's going to be a nuisance in most cases. You think they'd have learned from the group Sprint in Bozja, which only served to kill half your group when popped unexpectedly, because people slightly overshot the safe spot and ran over the edge or into fire.

In the hardest content, you'd coordinate it, but otherwise an unexpected burst of speed when navigating delicate movement for a mechanic can be dangerous.

I'm not saying movement speed is the best thing every but how you can turn a buff into something negative is quite impressive. lol

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Free yourself from the Stockholm syndrome. Play a DPS. They actually give a damn about that role. I'm telling you. You're going to have more fun within a day.

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I fully intend to level SMN as my first job and only queue as a SCH for the mandatory 5 dungeons to reach lvl 90 and then never touch it again.

If the Devs don't care about SCH, why should I?

This is coming from someone who mained SCH from 2.0 - 5.0. Was extremely disappointed with the 5.0 changes and rarely played SCH.

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There wasn't much we could do with Scholar

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This is basically the straw that broke my back. I'm done with that job.

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if "raid utility" is peloton, then either it becomes a must-have (which means SCH is an auto-include in any raid), or useless as content would have to be able to be cleared without it (as is already the case). They couldn't imagine reintroducing quickened aetherflow? What about Fey Wind? Or literally any other kind of buff like a parallel to chain stratagem that increases direct hit rate for all allies?

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People don't sprint in dungeon / trial / raid content as it is despite sprint being a FREE movement speed increase.

Isn’t there a Forced March mechanic so if some SCH randomly used the speed boost, it could make you walk off the edge or into aoe?

Tower and Hele-something comes to mind.