Can we get rid of Unreal trials and Faux Hollows now?

Maybe change the avenue towards earning those items to something less impossible?

No thanks. :)

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Originally Posted by MilkieTea

No thanks. :)

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1 vote yea, 1 vote "I like torturing myself!"

How are the rewards "impossible" to get?
Because you find the fights too difficult?
Because leaves accrue slowly?
Please be more specific. What don't you like about the system?

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Originally Posted by ItMe

How are the rewards "impossible" to get?
Because you find the fights too difficult?
Because leaves accrue slowly?
Please be more specific. What don't you like about the system?

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The fights are impossible to win, unless you have super twitch/YT mega star ultra static.
If you're stuck with PF, you can't win.
I'd like to comment on leaves, but I can't get any because the fights are damn near impossible.

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Originally Posted by JamieRose

The fights are impossible to win, unless you have super twitch/YT mega star ultra static.
If you're stuck with PF, you can't win.
I'd like to comment on leaves, but I can't get any because the fights are damn near impossible.

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What levels of content have you been comfortably clearing before?

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Originally Posted by ItMe

What levels of content have you been comfortably clearing before?

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I only just recently cleared Ruby EX. I do not have a static, I have to take what I can get from the PF.

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Originally Posted by JamieRose

I only just recently cleared Ruby EX. I do not have a static, I have to take what I can get from the PF.

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Not all content in the game is for you and that's okay.

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Originally Posted by Deliciou5

Not all content in the game is for you and that's okay.

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Why? Is your $15/mo somehow better than my $15/mo?

Not all content is for all players.

I've been wishing for one easy enough for me, and I just keep getting chicken and not diving in on these every time.

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Originally Posted by JamieRose

Why? Is your $15/mo somehow better than my $15/mo?

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Huh? You are asking the devs to make a decision that negatively affects others because you don't like it.

Hypocrite much?

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Originally Posted by Deliciou5

Huh? You are asking the devs to make a decision that negatively affects others because you don't like it.

Hypocrite much?

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What I asked for in the past was that the overtuned difficulty be addressed, but what I got instead was the difficulty being ramped up and PF groups being even rarer than before.
So now I get to look at that snide fox every time I turn in my journal and I can't play his stupid game because he askes something impossible for the privilege. (I slap his stupid face every time I'm in Idylshire.)

What I ask for now is that if the dev team is too lazy to address the issue, then they might as well dispose of unreal altogether because it is pointless content.

edit: i was being too dickish.

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Originally Posted by JamieRose

I only just recently cleared Ruby EX. I do not have a static, I have to take what I can get from the PF.

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Originally Posted by JamieRose

What I ask for now is that if the dev team is too lazy to address the issue, then they might as well dispose of unreal altogether because it is pointless content.

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They admitted Shiva was tuned higher than they wanted, but the rest of the Unreals are where they were intended to sit: as a bridge between EX and Savage content.
If you're only just starting to clear EXes, then you're still working up to being able to tackle this content.
I pug Unreals in solo que, so I can assure you that it is do-able. Keep practicing and you'll get it.

In the mean time, Ultimates are beyond both you and I, but that doesn't mean they're pointless or shouldn't be included in the game. No content is for everyone and that's ok.

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Originally Posted by ItMe

They admitted Shiva was tuned higher than they wanted, but the rest of the Unreals are where they were intended to sit: as a bridge between EX and Savage content.
If you're only just starting to clear EXes, then you're still working up to being able to tackle this content.
I pug Unreals in solo que, so I can assure you that it is do-able. Keep practicing and you'll get it.

In the mean time, Ultimates are beyond both you and I, but that doesn't mean they're pointless or shouldn't be included in the game. No content is for everyone and that's ok.

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There are so few pieces of content in the game that require a static or a skilled group of friends, it seems ridiculous that people want no content that is like that at all.

Esp. when it comes to unreal content which is basically the same fights as the EX version. It's not even unique content.

getting rid of content for no reason isn’t somthing I’m onboard with.

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Originally Posted by ItMe

They admitted Shiva was tuned higher than they wanted, but the rest of the Unreals are where they were intended to sit: as a bridge between EX and Savage content.
If you're only just starting to clear EXes, then you're still working up to being able to tackle this content.
I pug Unreals in solo que, so I can assure you that it is do-able. Keep practicing and you'll get it.

In the mean time, Ultimates are beyond both you and I, but that doesn't mean they're pointless or shouldn't be included in the game. No content is for everyone and that's ok.

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If Shiva was higher than they wanted, then why are Unreals even harder now?

Ultimates, yeah that's nothing I like hearing about either. Basically pro only content, which is BS.

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Originally Posted by JamieRose

If Shiva was higher than they wanted, then why are Unreals even harder now?

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Are they harder now? I hadn't heard about this.
Can you share your source(s) for this please?

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Originally Posted by JamieRose

If Shiva was higher than they wanted, then why are Unreals even harder now?

Ultimates, yeah that's nothing I like hearing about either. Basically pro only content, which is BS.

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So you want no pro content in ffxiv at all? huh?

You have to be a troll.

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Originally Posted by JamieRose

If Shiva was higher than they wanted, then why are Unreals even harder now?

Ultimates, yeah that's nothing I like hearing about either. Basically pro only content, which is BS.

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Constantly I see threads and various other forums that complain about difficulty being poorly balanced, hard content is too hard easy content is too easy so their is no visible bridge between them, then theirs people like you that wants the game to bend over at you pressing 1-2-3 for shallow victories. It’s not impossible it’s easier than EX’s, if you think it’s too hard the natural reaction isn’t to break its knees to cater to you

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Originally Posted by ItMe

Are they harder now? I hadn't heard about this.
Can you share your source(s) for this please?

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You're joking, right?

Titan and Leviathan have knock off mechanics, and you can't be rezzed afterward. All it takes is one person getting knocked off and it's a pretty much a wipe.

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Originally Posted by JamieRose

What I asked for in the past was that the overtuned difficulty be addressed, but what I got instead was the difficulty being ramped up and PF groups being even rarer than before.
So now I get to look at that snide fox every time I turn in my journal and I can't play his stupid game because he askes something impossible for the privilege. (I slap his stupid face every time I'm in Idylshire.)

What I ask for now is that if the dev team is too lazy to address the issue, then they might as well dispose of unreal altogether because it is pointless content.

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Dude, if anything the game has almost NO difficulty. Unreal and savage/ultimate are the only areas where we are allowed to be challenged in this game. If you can't do it then find like minded individuals. I swear, some people won't rest until the entire game is a one button click fest.

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Originally Posted by JamieRose

You're joking, right?

Titan and Leviathan have knock off mechanics, and you can't be rezzed afterward. All it takes is one person getting knocked off and it's a pretty much a wipe.

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I'm not joking.
About 3 times now I've cleared Levi from 30-40% HP with a light party because 4 people were knocked off. These duties do not ask you to be anywhere near perfect to clear them.
I'm sorry to hear you're struggling with these bosses so much, but they are most definitely very much do-able. Keep trying, you can get it~

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Originally Posted by ItMe

Are they harder now? I hadn't heard about this.
Can you share your source(s) for this please?

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No the fights are not harder, OP strongly exaggerates the difficulty. I have cleared them with PF every week and they are not harder than the current EX fights in my opinion.

The knock down mechanics don't make the fight more difficult, you can easily avoid them. The only problem is when you die and accept the rez at the wrong moment but it is possible to finish the fight with 7 ppl on patform.

Besides if someone finds unreal too hard, it is possible to buy all mounts and pets from mb.

Welcome back Jamie. Did you take your catgirl to the aesthetician? Looks different somehow. ANYway.

So is this the third or the fourth time youve tried to get this content removed from the game? Ive honestly lost count, and pulling up your post history doesnt sound like how i want to spend my morning. In the past, the problem was that your performance was poor enough to actively hinder groups from succeeding in any content harder then a typical dungeon. You mention having recently completed a current-expansion EX, so congrats. Hopefully this means that you have been improving, and not that you duped some poor group into carrying you. So if you have improved enough to do a one-patch-cycle-overgeared EX, what makes you think that given more time you wont get to the point where you can handle an Unreal? Have faith in your ability to continue to grow.

Unless you actually did just trick some group into carrying you while you actively made things harder for them. If thats the case, just buy the rewards off the market board and end this pointless tilting at windmills. And please try to learn to accept that in a game as large as this, not every piece of content needs to be for every player - or honestly even CAN be for every player. I dont enjoy mahjong, i dont enjoy PvP, i can only enjoy Savage+ content when im in a certain headspace. I could probly name another half dozen things if i wanted to. I dont ask the devs to remove these things i dont enjoy(or to try to change them into things i might enjoy while ruining them for the people who enjoy them now), i am happy they are in the game for the people who DO enjoy them. If the whole game was specifically tailored to me, everyone else would have less fun. The same would be true for you.

Well this is the pure opposite of how I saw this thread going. I thought this was going to be about how the content hasn't been updated in a while.

Something should absolutely not be removed because you find it too difficult and this has been cleared by many people in pf. You just had a run of bad parties is all. It's fine if you don't enjoy it but other people do.

That Fox really is one snide guy!

Keep trying OP, am sure you'll manage eventually ^^

If not, go grab some friends/guildies/youknow and try cleaning it the way it's supposed to be cleared probably!

Goodluck ^^

2 Runs with a random kill group on Leviathan unreal:

https://imgur.com/W9GZy7R

Just have a look at the Scholar. Zero damage and he even had less heal than the other one, but we managed to kill the boss twice and carried him.
So well, if you can´t beat EX / Unreal content, check out a guide, learn your class and carry by yourself. The content is already to easy and given by that example, you don´t need to be a pro or pro´s to beat it. Any fight has a clearn pattern you just need to remember too.

(And before someone cries about naming / shaming, names got lovely repainted.)

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Originally Posted by JamieRose

Maybe change the avenue towards earning those items to something less impossible?

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you can buy them on the market board if you want
but unreal trials are nice they do need some work but cant i wait for Bismark unreal and Nidhogg unreal

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Originally Posted by JamieRose

Why? Is your $15/mo somehow better than my $15/mo?

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Lol entitled much?

Removing content because you can’t clear it would mean there’s literally no content for competent players. If you just now only cleared Ruby ex then you fall in the casual category. As such you probably won’t clear SOS til you’re level 100. These are facts you must accept. It most definitely doesn’t take a pro to do ultimate/savage/unreal(lmao). Takes patience and networking. For unreal you only really need to do the bare minimum. Not everyone is entitled every piece of content or achievement until they put in the work.

You aren’t gonna put in the work. Nobody will deal with that attitude. $15/mo doesn’t mean you’re owed anything but a login.

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Originally Posted by ItMe

They admitted Shiva was tuned higher than they wanted, but the rest of the Unreals are where they were intended to sit: as a bridge between EX and Savage content.

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Just read through the pages right now and really need to smile.

Shiva unreal was overtuned? xDDDDDD
It was laughable. I solo-tanked this more than twice a week completely braindead, so ppl actually NEVER died. A lot of newbies / firsttimer without any knowledge of the fight even got the kill.
Unreal should get harder, so we´re forced to play mechanics properly.

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Originally Posted by JamieRose

You're joking, right?

Titan and Leviathan have knock off mechanics, and you can't be rezzed afterward. All it takes is one person getting knocked off and it's a pretty much a wipe.

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Yeah and they had knockbacks even on the level 50 ones. Maybe try them and get used to it? It´s not so hard and atleast for a couple of them, there is a skill with knockback-prevention. Tbh, i would even help you if you would be on the EU datacenter, just to show you, how it´s possible.

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Originally Posted by ssunny2008

Just read through the pages right now and really need to smile.

Shiva unreal was overtuned? xDDDDDD
It was laughable. I solo-tanked this more than twice a week completely braindead, so ppl actually NEVER died. A lot of newbies / firsttimer without any knowledge of the fight even got the kill.

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Yeah, it wasn't too bad.
Still, the devs said it wasn't where they wanted it to be.

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Originally Posted by ssunny2008

Tbh, i would even help you if you would be on the EU datacenter, just to show you, how it´s possible.

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That would be a very kind thing to do once data center travel is possible (which should be coming before 6.0 while Levi is the current unreal).

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Originally Posted by Frizze

Welcome back Jamie. Did you take your catgirl to the aesthetician? Looks different somehow. ANYway.

So is this the third or the fourth time youve tried to get this content removed from the game? Ive honestly lost count, and pulling up your post history doesnt sound like how i want to spend my morning. In the past, the problem was that your performance was poor enough to actively hinder groups from succeeding in any content harder then a typical dungeon. You mention having recently completed a current-expansion EX, so congrats. Hopefully this means that you have been improving, and not that you duped some poor group into carrying you. So if you have improved enough to do a one-patch-cycle-overgeared EX, what makes you think that given more time you wont get to the point where you can handle an Unreal? Have faith in your ability to continue to grow.

Unless you actually did just trick some group into carrying you while you actively made things harder for them. If thats the case, just buy the rewards off the market board and end this pointless tilting at windmills. And please try to learn to accept that in a game as large as this, not every piece of content needs to be for every player - or honestly even CAN be for every player. I dont enjoy mahjong, i dont enjoy PvP, i can only enjoy Savage+ content when im in a certain headspace. I could probly name another half dozen things if i wanted to. I dont ask the devs to remove these things i dont enjoy(or to try to change them into things i might enjoy while ruining them for the people who enjoy them now), i am happy they are in the game for the people who DO enjoy them. If the whole game was specifically tailored to me, everyone else would have less fun. The same would be true for you.

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At no point did I seriously expect that the content would be removed. The concept of venting frustration with difficult content seems to be an alien one on these boards, as does the concept of sarcasm.

I know that it's a fun pastime to attack people who question the status quo around here, I'm not sure how you feel the game moves forward ever if people don't express their unhappiness with the state of certain content.

Do continue to attack me and suggest that I "trick people" into carrying me. This is not at all what is happening, but it must make you people feel so much better about yourselves to attack people who are struggling with content. Last I checked that was called "bullying" but you do you.