Heya, wanted to throw this out there: I've been RPing a bit over WoW and just started over here (And it's been pretty fun RPing in FF14 thus far!) and I know you can work on every job without making a new character. However I kinda hate the trope of 'I'm the ultimate everything'. I like having characters with specific skillsets.
For RP purposes, do you think it's better to make a separate character for every job? Ferra's a MNK (Well, PGL in character: She doesn't buy into the 'chakra nonsense' as she calls it) but she wouldn't be caught dead mining for ore.
Just wanted to throw this out there since I didn't see an RP focused forum! Thank you!
RP Question: New Characters For New Jobs?
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09-09-2021, 06:21 PMFerraRP Question: New Characters For New Jobs?
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09-09-2021, 06:58 PMHaprimac
I tend to make characters, their backgrounds, personalities, occupation and such first, and choose the ingame job last. And because I like playing 'everyday men', their ingame job is not usually even ever brought up. So I tend to make alts as jobs that are the fastest to level (such as conjurer for instant queues), and if I feel they need a different job to correspond their role in roleplay, I'll unlock it if the original chosen one doesn't fit.
Although my main gameplay character (Fjrwn) has all jobs maxed out and is also in roleplay, I never bring attention to it and don't consider her to be of any of the jobs. She's an envoy to her village, a salve-maker and an elementalist (the viera job from FF Tactics Advanced). I don't think it's all set in stone, you can use your imagination. After all, it's not like the other roleplaying people's characters can see your character's name floating over your head or your job stone+icon while in-character. -
09-09-2021, 07:21 PMMistakeNotQuote:
Originally Posted by Ferra
For RP purposes, the skills and jobs my character has in the game has NO bearing on what skills/class/jobs they have in-character. Well, I might make sure they can wield the proper weapons, but that is all. -
09-09-2021, 07:36 PMFerra
Thank you both for the input! I think it's a good idea to not focus on what the in-game job is, just what the character does. Ferra likes testing herself against strong things but certainly don't want to be a Monk for example.
I'll try to apply that to new characters I make. Thanks again! -
09-09-2021, 09:27 PMKaoru_Nagisa
As stated above, I usually think of IC class/job last when it comes to the creative process of coming up with a new RP character. Sometimes I might know what job I can see them best on, and that job is usually their main if applicable to their background - but I heavily separate my in-game leveling process and personal class enjoyment from the IC profession my character has chosen.
Most of my leveling is done for personal reasons (I like having a tank, a healer, and a dps on basically most of my characters, it just makes doing roulettes more enjoyable when I'm not stuck on the same job forever), or more often for glamour in specific. Whatever classes I have leveled also don't come up much in RP (unless it's in a combat scenario), since usually I'm just on whatever allows me to wear a certain glamour I might want for an RP scene or the like. Usually my job glamours for doing content on, as well, have no real bearing on what they wear on the day to day - it's just what I think they look good in for that job. -
09-09-2021, 09:41 PMKes13a
if you have an RP focus, not sure what jobs you do behind the scenes really matters. I understand that coming from WoW you are used to having 50 alts or so, but little need for that here. you can easily have a main job that is based on your character and the rest are OC.
trying to make the max number of alts here just seems more of a waste unless you need to have different races as well to fill out your mental landscape. in the end though, its all personal taste, its a game.... do what you want, not sure why you need guidance for what is ultimately personal preference on how YOU enjoy the game. -
09-09-2021, 09:52 PMFerraWell I'm gonna do my own thing of course! I just was wondering how the concept how 'one character can in theory do everything' approach was taken from an RP context. I wasn't sure if it was normal for someone to be like, "Hey, I'm a Miner! I'm also a Black Mage! In addition I'm a Ninja!" or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kes13a
The answers provided have been very helpful in that regard and gives me a better idea on how to build characters! As mentioned, very different environment than in WoW! -
09-09-2021, 10:16 PMRongwayAmong NPCs, it's quite unusual for someone to be canonically able to be different things at once. People typically have one class or job and that is who they are. With the exception of one certain Scion who happens to be a master omnicrafter and also a less-than-master arcanist, characters tend to stick to one class and only switch classes at major junctions in their personal stories.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferra
If you wanted, it would not be problematic for you to roleplay a character this way, treating one or two classes as the character's past. Or you could just play any jobs you want to play from a purely gameplay perspective but only canonically acknowledge your character as one specific job. The game is heavily targeted towards people who want to play everything on a single character, and it's okay to play everything on one character even if you want to roleplay that the character has only one IC job. -
09-09-2021, 11:29 PMBrightamethyst
One thing to keep in mind about alts is that since this game is designed around doing everything on a single character, almost nothing is account wide. You'll need to do the entire MSQ, all the unlocks, collect all the items, glamours, mounts, minions, titles, etc on every single character.
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09-10-2021, 01:47 AMBright-FlowerYeah. My main Nyr has every class and job leveled but she is NOT skilled in all of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by MistakeNot
Also keep in mind that you can say, have a character that can use X weapon but not be that job. You can know how to swing a sword without being a paladin or samurai. You can fight with chakrams without being a dancer. So that's another thing to keep in mind.
I tend to limit my characters to dipping their toes into one or two areas of expertise combat wise. Like my highlander is good with a sword/shield and unarmed, but just because I leveled white mage on her doesn't mean she can also icly heal. But I tend to, 'power level' wise, play my characters as skilled but not exceptional adventurers. Competent but not the best of the bestest. You don't have to give them any combat ability at all if you don't want to. Or you can go for something more advanced if you want to. -
09-10-2021, 04:11 AMLisSquid
I've been playing for a long time, and have quite a few alts who have naturally progressed through the MSQ. It's super daunting now, but very doable (my latest alt completed ARR-ShB in about two weeks. Seems to get faster each time). I know a lot of people who maintain a bunch of characters at once, and once the MSQ is out of the way, it's actually very nice to be able to bypass the weekly lockouts for gear.
Each of my characters have their own theme and they center around a cluster of jobs, so not just one. I have consolidated roles and jobs into themes where, say, my scholarly character plays BLM/WHM/SMN because it makes sense that they'd dabble a bit in all of those studies. One character per job feels kind of excessive to me, personally, but chase your bliss!
In addition, I would suggest putting them all in the same FC. You cannot give items or gil to yourself, and being able to swap things around in an FC chest is key. I only have one master crafter who makes items for all my alts, and this is the only method to make it viable. -
09-10-2021, 06:17 AMEquitable_RemedyFor what it's worth, it should also be noted that, in one of the trailers, the main character switches classes multiple times (and the class changes themselves happen on camera).Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferra
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09-10-2021, 06:36 AMBright-FlowerThat is true. However, most people do not RP 'the warrior of light' for a number of reasons. Plus, the trailers are more symbolic representations of the expansions than literal events with the exception of the ARR trailer. And maybe 1.0 not sure on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Equitable_Remedy
The story is written around there being one singular WOL and things kind of fall apart if you have multiple people claiming to be them.
Most RPers tend to play more limited characters instead of the 'be everything and be the best at everything' type the WOL is if you take excelling at all the job/class quests.
Some people don't even RP combatants for their characters at all. -
09-10-2021, 06:44 AMElladie
I have alts entirely because I have different stories to tell about all of them . I only dip a toe into RP occasionally, but I write a lot of stories about my gang. Only Elai is the WoL, but her character job is a weird DRK/SMN combo. The others have jobs that fit with the tale I have in mind for them so I level whatever seems right for that. But each of them has a healer main because quick queues!
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09-10-2021, 07:15 AMFerraThat was really my initial fear of RPing in FF14. I've seen self insert types in WoW RP where they have armor that cannot be damaged through. They also have machine guns and also they're grand magicians. It's a trope that I do my best to avoid: Characters should have skillsets, strengths and weaknesses. Y'know, like characters!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bright-Flower
Thankfully a lot of my interactions have had none of that. Certainly a lot less of open warfare in the streets so it's been mostly pleasant thus far! -
09-14-2021, 02:41 AMIllmaeran
I only play one character and although he's maxed in all the DoL/DoH jobs and will soon be maxed in DRG and BRD, he's not a master of them all. From an RP perspective, I don't consider him skilled in anything other than DRG, BRD, BTN, CRP, and CUL with some minor fishing ability.
His full-time profession is Lancer with training in Dragoon skills during his time in Ishgard. His CRP skills started out as needing to know how to make and maintain his weapons, then branched off into doing woodwork as a part-time/not-adventuring-time craft. Having grown up in the Black Shroud, I figured BTN was a good choice as he would be familiar with herbs and other useful vegetation which then branched out (no pun intended) into dendrology as he learned woodworking. CUL because he needs to be able to feed himself. Then, because he's a 300% self-insert, I added BRD because I was a music teacher in my early years and did archery for quite a while.
If I were at all inclined to go through the MSQ again far enough to get different alts too the levels needed for cool glamours I might do that. As it stands, I'm just fine with my one and only character. -
09-14-2021, 05:17 AMKitKatnip
You could also take into consideration Thancred. He's been a Gladiator, Rogue and Gunbraker.
I guess it depends on what you want to do with your character. But at least there is some lore to back you up if you want to have your character skilled with more than one job.