Timer for housing relocations

I own a private house and I want to see this change. Please make it so that you can only relo once every 3 months, give it a cooldown so it's a choice people have to think about.
Even asides from too many people trying to enter the housing market with the influx of new players, it's too commonly used as a griefing/ plot control tactic. I remember the release
of the new extra wards being flooded with relocaters just to set the plots on timers for shits and giggles. Or to otherwise extend the chances of their friends getting one.
Also if SE wanted to like, actively watch what happens at open plots, that would be cool.

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Originally Posted by Dreamsoap

I own a private house and I want to see this change. Please make it so that you can only relo once every 3 months, give it a cooldown so it's a choice people have to think about.
Even asides from too many people trying to enter the housing market with the influx of new players, it's too commonly used as a griefing/ plot control tactic. I remember the release
of the new extra wards being flooded with relocaters just to set the plots on timers for shits and giggles. Or to otherwise extend the chances of their friends getting one.
Also if SE wanted to like, actively watch what happens at open plots, that would be cool.

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First of all, no one will relocate that often, of course, there are sadistic individual would do that but that is not a norm.
The situation you describe will happen either way with or without this timer.
People who got bad location at older ward will always want to take opportunity for a better plot in the new ward, so that makes you are lol 3 months timer pointless.
You will still see many plots on timer at older ward.

You might want to reserve your energy on ask Square/Enix to abandon the lol lottery idea.
Just imagine after ishegard release, there are so many plots on timer and everyone (those without the house) submitted a que to the lol lottery system.
Oh wow, the tear is going to real

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Originally Posted by Dreamsoap

I own a private house and I want to see this change. Please make it so that you can only relo once every 3 months, give it a cooldown so it's a choice people have to think about.
Even asides from too many people trying to enter the housing market with the influx of new players, it's too commonly used as a griefing/ plot control tactic. I remember the release
of the new extra wards being flooded with relocaters just to set the plots on timers for shits and giggles. Or to otherwise extend the chances of their friends getting one.
Also if SE wanted to like, actively watch what happens at open plots, that would be cool.

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No thanks. New wards don't take 3 months to fill so why do people keep coming up with these months long relocation timers. To add weight to the decision? I'll move to a better plot whenever I like thank you.

Realistically relocation should not be a thing at all.

Seriously, why are people who already have a house rewarded with the ability to jump to the head of the line on a new plot?

EDIT: Relocation could be an option AFTER the relocator stands there clicking with everyone else.

I don't like the idea of a relocation timer, however, I think they should remove the ability to bypass the housing-timer on open plots for people who are relocating. I've never understood why that is even an option. With the way housing is, private owners and FCs alike should be happy that they have ANY house at all, who cares if it's just a small in some fugly part of town.

And I say this as a homeowner if that makes any difference at all.

I haven't looked at the thing in awhile, but I coulda swore that not every ward will have the lottery anyway.
I think I also recall something about proposed FC wards and personal wards.

Ideally lottery wards won't even allow relocation...

I believe the rationale behind relocations being immediate is it does not affect the number of available plots. It just changes which ones are available so why restrict it. To me it is just exposes another issue with a badly broken housing system that SE refuses to resolve by introducing a robust instanced system to run in parallel with the ward system.

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Originally Posted by Divinemights

First of all, no one will relocate that often, of course, there are sadistic individual would do that but that is not a norm.

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It's happening on Balmung right now it's all over the housing discord with people transferring just to troll. I have a friend working hard to try and get a plot there. Furthermore these people are not transferring in right away but doing it during prime time when most houses are in fact coming off timers to reset them. Interestingly enough those doing it say they can and that SE won't do anything about it. These characters are sadistic and are going to spoil transfers for the good guys. There needs to be a 30 day cooldown on transfers so anyone transferring can't do it again right away let alone transfer out right after to the plot they transferred from.

There is no reason why transfers should be unlimited with only a 5 minute cooldown.

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Originally Posted by Dreamsoap

Please make it so that you can only relo once every 3 months, give it a cooldown so it's a choice people have to think about.

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Sucks for those who just managed to get a small and a more desirable available but you can't get it.

Relocations don't happen that often so I guess I'm on the fence on a suggestion to gate relocations.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

It's happening on Balmung right now it's all over the housing discord with people transferring just to troll.

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Tbf that sounds more like a server issue than a wide spread, it sucks for you guys ofc.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

It's happening on Balmung right now it's all over the housing discord with people transferring just to troll.

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I was wondering why the same couple of plots on the mist and the goblet keep on popping up.

I've honestly thought about reporting it but couldn't find anything concrete.

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Originally Posted by Conundrum

Realistically relocation should not be a thing at all.

Seriously, why are people who already have a house rewarded with the ability to jump to the head of the line on a new plot?

EDIT: Relocation could be an option AFTER the relocator stands there clicking with everyone else.

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Because relocation doesn't remove a housing plot, it's a net neutral change, one plot for one plot. You can just find their old plot and try that one instead.

I think the current relocation timer is too low. It's only five minutes. Some players have trolled others by relocating to open plots to thwart those doing placard spam only to relocate again when they move on to another open plot. I know not many people do this but it shouldn't be possible to so easily repeatedly troll players like that. And before anyone says that's an expensive way to troll, most plots are cottages which are not expensive and anyone with a house already has a very cheap relocation fee. It's not difficult to make enough gil to be able to cover the cost of multiple cottage relocations in a short space of time.

I think the relocation cd should be a week. It's short enough that you're not going to be locked out of relocation for a very long time, but long enough that it cannot be spammed to troll people.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

Because relocation doesn't remove a housing plot, it's a net neutral change, one plot for one plot. You can just find their old plot and try that one instead.

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It's not neutral.

It gives the current house owner priority for getting the better house (or else they wouldn't be relocating).

It also turns the newly opened lot into a scavenger hunt to find.

Finally it resets the timer.

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Originally Posted by Thaciscokidd

I was wondering why the same couple of plots on the mist and the goblet keep on popping up.

I've honestly thought about reporting it but couldn't find anything concrete.

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It's become a real issue and I'm only aware of it because of my friend who is placard clicking and a member of the housing discord.

There is one plot on Balmung in Goblet's Brimming Heart in my ward 17 where I have my FC that had 3 transfers in 24 hours with one person saying they made a mistake. Would have loved for her to get that one but Brimming Heart is a place where transfers into are pretty common. It's simply become a joke really. Relocations are a good thing but their needs to be a limit to how often one can do it.

I have relocated twice in my housing history, once to another small near the water in Lavender and a second time to a medium in Shirogane. The Shirogane transfer took place during new ward additions with 4.2.

Three months is rather excessive. I would like to see the relocation cooldown changed to at least 48 hours, though. That would reduce the chances of it being used as a griefing tactic since the relocator would lose any chance to move back to their old plot.

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Originally Posted by Conundrum

It gives the current house owner priority for getting the better house (or else they wouldn't be relocating).

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There are a few players (fortunately few) who aren't relocating to get a better house. They're doing it to reset the purchase timers, wasting the time of those who have been waiting. They like to claim they're just messing with those who use bots/auto-clickers but the reality is they're also screwing things up for everyone trying to buy.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

It's happening on Balmung right now it's all over the housing discord with people transferring just to troll. I have a friend working hard to try and get a plot there. Furthermore these people are not transferring in right away but doing it during prime time when most houses are in fact coming off timers to reset them. Interestingly enough those doing it say they can and that SE won't do anything about it. These characters are sadistic and are going to spoil transfers for the good guys. There needs to be a 30 day cooldown on transfers so anyone transferring can't do it again right away let alone transfer out right after to the plot they transferred from.

There is no reason why transfers should be unlimited with only a 5 minute cooldown.

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Again, it is Balmung's problem and it doesn't mean other servers are having the same issue.
Balmung has a lot of unique problems and I really don't see any justification a new rule need to apply to every other servers just because of Balmung

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Originally Posted by Conundrum

Realistically relocation should not be a thing at all.

Seriously, why are people who already have a house rewarded with the ability to jump to the head of the line on a new plot?

EDIT: Relocation could be an option AFTER the relocator stands there clicking with everyone else.

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The only real benefit to relocate would be to change how the interior/stairs look. The best way to fight this is let us change them like we can the light fixtures. Otherwise it's not really worth the hassle/gil to do so.

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Originally Posted by Alestorm

The only real benefit to relocate would be to change how the interior/stairs look. The best way to fight this is let us change them like we can the light fixtures. Otherwise it's not really worth the hassle/gil to do so.

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A lot of people spend their time outside their house so they may want to relocate to have a location they like more.

And as far as I'm aware people can relocate to a larger plot.

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Originally Posted by Divinemights

Again, it is Balmung's problem and it doesn't mean other servers are having the same issue.
Balmung has a lot of unique problems and I really don't see any justification a new rule need to apply to every other servers just because of Balmung

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I can't personally speak for other servers and neither can you. Perhaps people on discord can speak to that with respect to how widespread the problem is. According to my friend who belongs to that discord this is NOT a problem unique to Balmung. The fact that this can happen and is happening is more than enough justification to fix it.

Changes are in fact coming as mentioned in the Endwalker digital event and I suppose we'll have to wait and see.