They fixed the newest alliance raid final coffers

They heard us :)

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/56c127779fb6cafdf4421b811e6e03c3d50c1bab

Time to suffer in the tower again, thanks for the heads up

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Originally Posted by Andy_T93

Time to suffer in the tower again, thanks for the heads up

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But the tower is fun tho.

You still have to roll against 23 other people...

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Originally Posted by Caitlyn

You still have to roll against 23 other people...

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??? Each alliance has its own chest, but the drop rate hadn't been adjusted like they did for bunker.

If only they could make the place less boring to look at.

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Originally Posted by Herebedragons

??? Each alliance has its own chest, but the drop rate hadn't been adjusted like they did for bunker.

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The pets, cards and scrolls are for each party and not the whole alliance?

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

If only they could make the place less boring to look at.

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Indeed ; )

I would rank the Nier raid as the best 24-man raid, but paradigm breach is the weakest entry of the Nier raid-series.

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Originally Posted by Caitlyn

The pets, cards and scrolls are for each party and not the whole alliance?

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It's been a while since I last ran the raid, but I'm pretty sure, yes. A change from the previous patch I believe.

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Originally Posted by Caitlyn

You still have to roll against 23 other people...

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What? Each 8man group has their own loot.

How have you been playing since 2014 and not know this? Why the f do you think there are 3 loot chests in alliance raids marked A, B and C?

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Originally Posted by TTiscancer

What? Each 8man group has their own loot.

How have you been playing since 2014 and not know this? Why the f do you think there are 3 loot chests in alliance raids marked A, B and C?

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Pets, card and scrolls used to be an alliance lot for a while and not each 8 man

How did you not know this :P

Actually 5.58 update was supposed to make both minions drop always and added the 3 party coffers after the final boss. Previously there was only one final coffer after False Idol. The 5.58 change added 3 party coffers but they overlooked adjusting the loot table to put both minions, the housing item, and all orchestrion rolls in it. This had been the most debated and viewed thread on bug reports page of forums since 5.58. It was unclear if they overlooked adjusting the loot table or if it were intentional-but we were pretty sure it was overlooked as previous updates to puppets bunker and copied factory had made both minions available when they added the 3 party coffers. They heard us and fixed it.

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Originally Posted by TTiscancer

What? Each 8man group has their own loot.

How have you been playing since 2014 and not know this? Why the f do you think there are 3 loot chests in alliance raids marked A, B and C?

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Again ??? There is usually a separate chest for minions and stuffs, and you do have to compete with 23 people then. But as I said, they changed that recently and made it so each alliance has its own chest with everything in it. And today they fixed the drop rates for those. Honestly, who peed in your cereals?

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Originally Posted by Herebedragons

Again ??? There is usually a separate chest for minions and stuffs, and you do have to compete with 23 people then. But as I said, they changed that recently and made it so each alliance has its own chest with everything in it. And today they fixed the drop rates for those. Honestly, who peed in your cereals?

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Seems to be negative nancy on most comments :P

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Originally Posted by TTiscancer

What? Each 8man group has their own loot.

How have you been playing since 2014 and not know this? Why the f do you think there are 3 loot chests in alliance raids marked A, B and C?

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Well, when a new 24-man raid comes out, there will be 4 chests at the end. 3 chests with party-loot (1 chest per party) and 1 chest for the entire alliance (A,B and C). This last chest mostly contains cards, minions, hairstyles and orchestrion scrolls. The loot for A, B and C always contains gear (mostly 2 pieces). This is common since 2014.

After some research, since a month (with Patch 5.58, thx to Alchalant for noticing it), the chest with the cards, minions and other stuff in Paradigm Breach became available for each party separately:

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The following items will now appear in a treasure chest allotted to each party of an alliance when undertaking the Tower at Paradigm's Breach:
- Stuffed Android Units
- Modern Aesthetics - Battle-ready Bobs
- Modern Aesthetics - Scanning for Style
- Smaller Stubby
- 9S Automaton
- 2B Card
- The Sound of the End Orchestrion Roll
- Mourning Orchestrion Roll
- Emil (Despair) Orchestrion Roll
- Kainé (Final Fantasy Main Theme Version) Orchestrion Roll
- The Sound of the End: 8bit Orchestrion Roll

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I apologize for my question, because I kinda missed the patch notes of 5.58 and I didnt visit Paradigm Breach for over 2 month or so. Another thing learned ^^.

But with the current fixes, I consider to run the Nier Raid-series again : )

Well, that's nice. They finally fixed 9S minion drop bug.

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Originally Posted by Flay_wind

Well, that's nice. They finally fixed 9S minion drop bug.

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It wasn't a bug. It was intentional.

If it was a bug, the line would be under "issues fixed" not "adjustments made"

"- The stuffed android units furnishing item is now guaranteed to appear."

Wonderful, now housing items I'll never be able to use are guaranteed to appear every time.

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Originally Posted by Darthgummibear

"- The stuffed android units furnishing item is now guaranteed to appear."

Wonderful, now housing items I'll never be able to use are guaranteed to appear every time.

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Aren't these indoor items? You can set them down in an apartment/FC room if they are.

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Originally Posted by hobostew

Aren't these indoor items? You can set them down in an apartment/FC room if they are.

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You are assuming that everybody can get one of these. This couldn't be farther from the truth.

Thank the twelve. I had seen 9S once since the change and the plushies never since the change.

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Originally Posted by Darthgummibear

You are assuming that everybody can get one of these. This couldn't be farther from the truth.

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You can't own an FC room? I don't know how it is on Balmung, but speaking from one of the locked down servers there's still apartments available to be purchased for everyone and their mum and their mum's alts. So, yes it is easy to assume that even on the NA rp capital there'd be room for everyone to own at least one of the two. Since they're both the same amount of space just one is permanent and costs more.

"All orchestrion rolls obtainable from these treasure coffers are now guaranteed to appear"

YES

Hate that raid and hated it even more when Kaine wasn't dropping after suffering through it

Can join Tower with 8ppl group? Or need full 24.

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Originally Posted by TTiscancer

What? Each 8man group has their own loot.

How have you been playing since 2014 and not know this? Why the f do you think there are 3 loot chests in alliance raids marked A, B and C?

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How have you not counted that and the end of the raid, there are 4 chests, not 3.

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Originally Posted by SannaR

You can't own an FC room? I don't know how it is on Balmung, but speaking from one of the locked down servers there's still apartments available to be purchased for everyone and their mum and their mum's alts. So, yes it is easy to assume that even on the NA rp capital there'd be room for everyone to own at least one of the two. Since they're both the same amount of space just one is permanent and costs more.

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On Balmung all the housing is taken, all the apartments are full. If you are not in an FC or in an FC that can't get a house then no, you have 0 access to housing. This is why we need better housing so everyone has a opportunity to have at least a small space to decorate. The apartments were a good step, but they are still limited.

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・The following adjustments have been made to treasure coffers which appear upon defeating False Idol in the Tower at Paradigm's Breach:
- The number of 2B cards that appear have been reduced from 3 to 2.

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Why. . did they nerf. . . CARDS?

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

Why. . did they nerf. . . CARDS?

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Probably just to reduce the amount of loot in the chests.

I was so glad they changed this. Thanks to my FC coming with me this evening (and all passing) I was able to get this last minion I needed, number 406. Wahoo! Up until this point I had never even see it drop so I was starting to think that I'd never get it!

I'm really loving the QoL they've done with these things not just in alliance raids. I had no idea some dungeons had house items or songs or minions until these changes because they had never dropped even when I used to run them all the time. Randomly get them for roulette now and there that stuff is.

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Originally Posted by DragonFlyy

On Balmung all the housing is taken, all the apartments are full. If you are not in an FC or in an FC that can't get a house then no, you have 0 access to housing. This is why we need better housing so everyone has a opportunity to have at least a small space to decorate. The apartments were a good step, but they are still limited.

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Ahh. It has been a while since I knew of the situation of housing on Balmung as there were some apartments still available. Course this was probably back when Balmung was still locked down for months on end. Even still we all know more housing and changes to the system are supposed to happen at 6.1. So, to have someone react to buffing the drop rate of the plushy like that still comes off as odd. Then there's the Island ranch thing they keep on talking about. Which I'm fairly sure was the farm thing they told us we'd be getting this expansion. As in one of the last times they said anything about it was we could build things on it. Sadly I don't know what they could do to/with housing that wouldn't have the ability to screw over current owners while also satisfying people who would be new owners.

Honestly I was a bit shocked to see the Stuffed Android Units and 9S minion because I don't think I had ever seen them drop before until today.
And I've done the Nier raids countless of times.

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Originally Posted by wereotter

How have you not counted that and the end of the raid, there are 4 chests, not 3.

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You can easily not pay attention to the chests, especially with so many people standing around – you just see the items come up in your loot window.