Idea on the dreams/nightmares we are having

Ok we all know that the echo allows us to look into someones memories, but what if the twelve themselves could contact us through the echo. This contact could be via these dreams and nightmares we are having.

For example the one where Van Darnus kills everyone, and you wake before he kills you, perhaps that is a raid that will go on against the imperial stronghold in Mor Dhona, and the twelve are showing us what will happen without intervention.

It could seem like the twelve are trying to help us, but they can only contact the few who have awakened the power of the echo, also in one cutscene I remember Van Darnus telling us that the twelve are not helping us, but what if it just looks that way because he cannot use the echo.

I woke up this morning to the dream of the Legatus stabbing me. Dunno if it's random when you get it or what, but I slept in the inn at Gridania.

Honestly I think this is just a subtle way of getting people from idling on the streets of Uldah and giving you a bonus at the same time. :P

I assume you get the Legatus dream once you've completed the new Grand Company quest (the pre-req. for mini-Garuda), or after you've completed mini-Garuda.

I got the Legatus dream after I beat mini-Garuda, but before I turned in the quest (logged out before I was finished because of emergency maintenance).

I can confirm we are getting cutscenes, I logged in today to what seemed like the aftermath of a battle in Mor Dhona, the admiral was killed, and Van Darnus was going to kill me, then I woke up on the floor, and walked out the inn.

Which is what lead me to think these are more than just dreams/nightmares.

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Originally Posted by Raldo

I assume you get the Legatus dream once you've completed the new Grand Company quest (the pre-req. for mini-Garuda), or after you've completed mini-Garuda.

I got the Legatus dream after I beat mini-Garuda, but before I turned in the quest (logged out before I was finished because of emergency maintenance).

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I haven't done Garuda yet, so it may be the first quest. Someone that hasn't done any GC quests would have to confirm.

Is there any way to re watch the dream cut scenes in our journal?

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Originally Posted by ArkNova

Is there any way to re watch the dream cut scenes in our journal?

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It will come again when you log in, seems like you have to be logged out for atleast 30 mins to see it.

I dreamed everyone important was dead and Darnus was about to stab me.

Unless his weakness is pickaxes I'd be screwed should this exact situation come to pass.

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Originally Posted by Gramul

I dreamed everyone important was dead and Darnus was about to stab me.

Unless his weakness is pickaxes I'd be screwed should this exact situation come to pass.

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I remember the GC quest, when Raubahn drew his sword, and I.........................
















Drew a stone :D wonder who would win lol.

I think it could just be that we're having a bad dream.

The life of an adventurer is pretty stressful you know.

Crafter's nightmare!

@ an important synth
96% HQ rate but it still let you choose Double Down...
And on 48% Double down, it blows up!

oh wait this is not nightmare... It happens!

What you're describing isn't just a dream, but prophecy or prophetic vision. I agree with this interpretation, it makes a lot of sense.

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Originally Posted by Orophin

I haven't done Garuda yet, so it may be the first quest. Someone that hasn't done any GC quests would have to confirm.

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You get the dream sequence without having done any GC quests. I started a new character a few days ago, she is only rank 18 and I got the dream scene yesterday on her.

They're nightmares, that and only that. It's pretty much meant to be a neat little "feature" to encourage logging out via your bed. For example I got the cutscene on my alt and I haven't even beaten the normal Ifrit battle with that character yet let alone unlocked Garuda OR the Moogles. I haven't even beaten the main scenario storyline. IDK why I had a dream of the White Raven when I've never met him using that character, but I think everyone's just reading into this a bit too much.

The nightmare is meant to be a view that our character has anxieties about failing. In the nightmare it seemingly became a reality. The Circle of Knowledge (If you notice they're -all- there in the dream, the NPCs you meet from the main storyline.) and the leaders of the Grand Companies all failed and you were the only one left alive. All hope was lost and as you fall into despair the White Raven shows up from behind to finish you off as well.

I don't think it can count as a nightmare if you've never met the guy in your dream. It has to be a vision of some sort to give so much detail about a person you've never seen.

SE is too creative to just add it as a pointless dream. It's definitely a warning or premonition.

after a nightmare search your bed i did and got some grilled carp lol

i have logged out for over 6 hours and still have yet to get the nightmare

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Originally Posted by Akira

i have logged out for over 6 hours and still have yet to get the nightmare

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I've logged in/out about 8 times since 1.22 and still haven't ran into it... I guess it's just a matter of time!

I've had a vivid dream of Incubating a large egg... no special cs involved with it though

I got the cutscene dream today....

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Originally Posted by Mihana

They're nightmares, that and only that. It's pretty much meant to be a neat little "feature" to encourage logging out via your bed. For example I got the cutscene on my alt and I haven't even beaten the normal Ifrit battle with that character yet let alone unlocked Garuda OR the Moogles. I haven't even beaten the main scenario storyline. IDK why I had a dream of the White Raven when I've never met him using that character, but I think everyone's just reading into this a bit too much.

The nightmare is meant to be a view that our character has anxieties about failing. In the nightmare it seemingly became a reality. The Circle of Knowledge (If you notice they're -all- there in the dream, the NPCs you meet from the main storyline.) and the leaders of the Grand Companies all failed and you were the only one left alive. All hope was lost and as you fall into despair the White Raven shows up from behind to finish you off as well.

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Thats entirely the point, why would it matter to you that much that the questline npcs all got killed, however all us adventurers posses the power of the echo (even if you haven't done the quest you unlock it in) if the twelve were trying to contact us, to show what could happen if we fail it could go to everyone who posesses the power of the echo.

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Originally Posted by Delsus

Ok we all know that the echo allows us to look into someones memories, but what if the twelve themselves could contact us through the echo. This contact could be via these dreams and nightmares we are having.

For example the one where Van Darnus kills everyone, and you wake before he kills you, perhaps that is a raid that will go on against the imperial stronghold in Mor Dhona, and the twelve are showing us what will happen without intervention.

It could seem like the twelve are trying to help us, but they can only contact the few who have awakened the power of the echo, also in one cutscene I remember Van Darnus telling us that the twelve are not helping us, but what if it just looks that way because he cannot use the echo.

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Personally, I think it's due to what Van Darnus said after the easy Garuda fight, about how he mocks your struggles as futile, and looks forward to taking your head when you finally despair. In the nightmare, everyone you've met is dead, and your character looks like they're having a heroic BSOD, sure enough, Van Darnus shows up and "kills" you. It's not unusual to have nightmares as a result of external stimulus, and it says a little about your character's personality, like they are dreading facing Van Darnus since we haven't really seen him fight yet, and if Gaius Van Baelsar takes orders from him, we can guess he's a badass.

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Originally Posted by Vanguard319

Personally, I think it's due to what Van Darnus said after the easy Garuda fight, about how he mocks your struggles as futile, and looks forward to taking your head when you finally despair. In the nightmare, everyone you've met is dead, and your character looks like they're having a heroic BSOD, sure enough, Van Darnus shows up and "kills" you. It's not unusual to have nightmares as a result of external stimulus, and it says a little about your character's personality, like they are dreading facing Van Darnus since we haven't really seen him fight yet, and if Gaius Van Baelsar takes orders from him, we can guess he's a badass.

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If thats the case people who hadn't beaaten the mini Garuda fight should not get the nightmare because they haven't been mocked bt Van Darnus yet.

will we finally find out who shadow really is???? lol

Had a dream a wizard turned me into a biscuit, checked bed and found biscuit

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Originally Posted by Delsus

If thats the case people who hadn't beaaten the mini Garuda fight should not get the nightmare because they haven't been mocked bt Van Darnus yet.

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but how do you know ppl are getting the dream before beating mini Garuda?

Either way, I think it's just a nightmare. There's really nothing that suggests that it must be deeper than that. People have nightmares all the time, doesn't mean they're some kind of prophetic message. I wouldn't read too much into it without good reason. Right now there's really nothing to suggest that it's more than a dream.

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Originally Posted by Vanguard319

but how do you know ppl are getting the dream before beating mini Garuda?

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Originally Posted by Ayanne

You get the dream sequence without having done any GC quests. I started a new character a few days ago, she is only rank 18 and I got the dream scene yesterday on her.

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We read what people posted on the previous page~~

I got the dream of the guy with the giant spear stabbing me in the back :x

I think it's random because my highest level is 36...

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Originally Posted by Gramul

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wut

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I have an idea too: make the dreams appear in "The Unending Journey" book.
I was stupid enough to grab a glass of water while the game was loading, result: I missed the dream... I want to see it again!!!!!! T_T

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Originally Posted by Arcell

Either way, I think it's just a nightmare. There's really nothing that suggests that it must be deeper than that. People have nightmares all the time, doesn't mean they're some kind of prophetic message. I wouldn't read too much into it without good reason. Right now there's really nothing to suggest that it's more than a dream.

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I could be looking into it too much, but as far as I can see all the pieces fit, the imperial stronghold is in Mor Dhona (which is where the nightmare is based) the imperials have been attacking right outside the cities so it would be a wise choice to attempt to attack them head on and very little is known about the echo, the key point we know is that its because of the echo we can commune with the beast tribes, perhaps the twelve knew this was going to happen so created a few people that they could commune with, so we could know what will come if we fail.

I wouldn't put it past SE to do something like this. I could be making links that aren't really there, but we will see (can't wait for the imperial stronghold raid and legitus battles to see)

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Originally Posted by Nakiamiie

I have an idea too: make the dreams appear in "The Unending Journey" book.
I was stupid enough to grab a glass of water while the game was loading, result: I missed the dream... I want to see it again!!!!!! T_T

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They will return, you have a chance at seeing them every time you log on.