This post is for people to protest the current land system that imprisons people. If you really want a land the only best option is sit doing nothing for hours and not even gurantee you get it.
FIX THE DAM SYSTEM. How many DCL is it and not even one single fix in the system!!!!
Just stop this madness!!!!
Protesting current housing system!!!!!!
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08-07-2021, 09:03 AMSnovProtesting current housing system!!!!!!
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08-07-2021, 09:51 AMVidu
You can stop this madness yourself at any point by not sitting at the placard for hours - no one is putting a gun to your head to do so, you're free not to do it.
Given all their announcments its clear that they're aware of the problems the current housing situation has and they're implementing some "fixes", including a lottery system - maybe not the fixes people want to see, but the fixes they seem to consider their best options within the current system. -
08-07-2021, 10:09 AMItMe
I'm sorry, I don't follow.
You are suggesting we protest by doing... what exactly? -
08-07-2021, 01:02 PMJojoyaHe wants players to protest by complaining loudly in the forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItMe
As if this subforum isn't already filled with loud complaints going back to when housing was first added.
It's a shame he won't add constructive feedback on his housing experience to the other threads discussing the need for the system to be fixed. -
08-07-2021, 01:27 PMClaviusnex
If they had any serious intentions of changing the housing system they would have done it long ago. I just came back a few weeks ago after a four year break and housing and the arguments against its implementation are exactly the same. SE knows they have various options that would improve the system but don't want to invest in it. While it feels good to let off steam here the fact is the only way they will listen is if they see a large number of players quit because of the housing mess. I highly doubt that will happen based on past history.
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08-07-2021, 07:26 PMSotarisI'm imprisoned all year long cause if I unsub for 45 days I lose my houses. But no one is putting a gun to my head. I happily sub cause i also find the game fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snov
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08-07-2021, 08:39 PMBesameSame here Sotaris. I would most likely unsub for periods of time if I was not tied to a FC and house. SE knows this and holds demo over our heads. It's like any business, all about the Benjamins. At least the sub isn't too costly and I can always slip in for a couple of hours of activity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sotaris
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08-07-2021, 08:43 PMPayadopa
Where do I burn my bra?
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08-07-2021, 11:22 PMSotarisYeah I agree. I mean the sub is like 1 lunch in my country so I don't really cry about it. It just sucks in a sense that we're "forced" to re-sub in order to keep our hard work getting our houses for ourselves and the fc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Besame
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08-08-2021, 01:07 AMAlmagnus1Realistically, most would look at the time investment needed to acquire a house and not use the system. We'll see if that changes in 6.1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Claviusnex
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08-08-2021, 01:54 AMNabrilIf you want a house right now, yes, you do have to sit at the placard for hours. There is no alternative.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vidu
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08-08-2021, 03:02 AMBesameI hear ya and we Americans don't like to be "forced" into anything lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sotaris
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08-08-2021, 01:28 PMJojoyaIf you time it right, you can be unsubbed more of the year than you are subbed and still retain your house.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sotaris
30 days subbed, 40-44 days unsubbed, repeat. If you get lucky and there's a free login campaign that starts the last 10 days of your unsub period, you can skip a subbed period.
I still don't get why people find it so important to own a house in this game when they don't have much interest in playing the game more than a couple of months each year. There are other games with much better housing. -
08-08-2021, 01:50 PMCanadane
Protest what?
They've already announced a new lotto system for some housing wards in 6.1.
They're changing it, hold your horses.
And DLC? Don't give an expansion disservice, it's a bit more substantial than what's typically called DLC. -
08-08-2021, 02:34 PMBesameI'd enjoy a 3-4 month break and then return when I felt like it. Right now, I had my chars maxed in everything including armor of my choosing a couple months ago The new stuff doesn't begin for several months and I'd like to focus on other things including knee surgery, without worrying that my house, furnishings, (which I have worked hard for), will still be there while jockeying to take time away. The last thing I want is to get involved in another MMO when I do enjoy this one off and on and cannot devote the time to it now. I think time away off and on might make the play even more fun with less repetition and I intend to make this my last MMO after playing them for 24+ years :). It's just kinda hard to let go even though you should ya know???Quote:
Originally Posted by Jojoya
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08-08-2021, 05:07 PMSotarisCause..Quote:
Originally Posted by Jojoya
1. I worked my kitty butt off to get enough gil to buy my Large years back
2. I'm FC lead in my fc so if I go my hard work to get us a nice fc house and the fc structure i worked hard to maintain would fall into someone else that I don't want.
Soooo i'm kinda "forced" to re-sub but as I mentioned in my post before you must've seen since you're quoting me that even though I'm "forced" I still enjoy the game, just don't like the idea of me having to cause risk of losing what i worked years to get. -
08-08-2021, 06:22 PMViduIf you're worried about your FC and your leader status within that, its not the auto-demolition thats "forcing" you to stay subbed. The passing on of the leader status (after 35 days iof the leader not logging in) has been active before the auto-demolition even was a thing. So if you dont want to lose your FC, you have to stay subbed (and log in) within even shorter intervals than the housing timer would allow. (personal sidenote: as a member I would also be a bit irritated if the leader only showed their face once every 35 days to keep their title and didnt really engage with the FC, so I'd probably leave the FC).Quote:
Originally Posted by Sotaris
In regards to the FC-house: as a reminder, every member of the FC can reset the timer. So as long as you're not in a one-man FC or one thats basically dead, there is probably no need to worry about an FC-house.
While the auto-demolition is unfortunate, it only really effects your personal house - but since you need to stay active to keep your FC before the demolition timer even kicks in, its not really the house that "forces" you to stay subbed.
Even if there was no auto-demolition and actually even if there was no leader-demotion, you'd still lose what you built if you unsubbed for long periods of time - and if only because I doubt that your FC would stay in a frozen state of nothing changing and that people would still behave the same way (or even stay in the FC) if you were gone for long periods of time... -
08-08-2021, 06:37 PMDraikan
The system is changing in 6.1. It is going to a lotto system essentially. You put the money in and if you get it you get it. But you won't have to wait at the placcard anymore. You will either get your deposit back... Or you will own a new home =D! I have never taken the time to try and buy a home. I want one though so now that it is going to be this system I may start putting money down to see if I can get a mid sized.
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08-08-2021, 06:52 PMRobotukas
The best solution is to add a small fee as an optional sub. The reason why this system has an issue is because of server limitations. Maybe basic it can go for free but you can have only one per account and if you want to have bigger then it must be a small fee per month which goes to keep up server cost.
The most important thing is that all players should be able to have housing otherwise it should be removed. Is no point in advising when you buy a game about the housing system or it must be more clear about getting a housing system before you buy the game. -
08-08-2021, 07:07 PMSotarisI'm sorry but that would alienate so many players who wouldn't be able to afford a premium subscription for something that should be free and available for everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robotukas
While I agree the main issue is server costs and memory I don't think enable a premium subscription aimed at people who can afford it is the 'best solution'. Best I would say it a overhaul of the poorly designed system. -
08-09-2021, 12:09 AMRobotukasIf they were able to overhaul the house system so it will be done already. Maybe the house system is part of the game engine so if they have to rebuild the house system then first they have to rebuild the game engine in other words to rebuild the entire game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sotaris
I hope in future to see improvements in the house system so everyone will be able to experience housing. At the moment is just an advert on the internet promising house sytem. -
08-09-2021, 12:20 AMSpiralMask
hasnt SE already said they're moving to a lottery system for ishgard/6.0 onward?
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08-09-2021, 01:48 AMRobotukasThe lottery doesn't solve a problem. With a lottery, so lucky one can have houses but not all players. I hope it makes sense to you. Otherwise, you don't need a lottery.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpiralMask
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08-09-2021, 01:56 AMSotarisiirc on last live letter there was a question regarding housing and i took away from yoshida answer that housing is pretty low priority on their backlog and seems current system is working as intended.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robotukas
sadly I can't find the exact quote but something along those lines.
6.1 basically when Ishgard housing gets available.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpiralMask
And i'm expecting it be pretty shit and we'll see more complaints than currently when people have to camp at the click board.