Most basic DPS: Advice

Hi everyone,

Main tank here & just looking to try out DPS,

Which is the easiest & very less button press DPS job there is?

I am aware dragoon & monk are rotational & has far too many combos,

I am not sure about the rest,

I am liking Machinist but get anxious as i level up more abilities are added & i get this anxious state because coming as an experienced tank i am normally used to situational awareness & straightforward buttons.


Any tips my fellow dpsers?

Dancer has the fewest buttons and is most straightforward. Basically DNC:

Is a button highlighted?
Yes) Press it.
No) Press 1.

Honestly I'd have recommended Monk because even though it has 2 combos, that's almost all it has aside from a few oGCDs and buffs.

But if you want the simplest class, I agree with Rongway that Dancer is probably your best bet. It has 4 primary buttons, a 12 combo and then 2 other buttons that have a 50% chance of proc'ing off of 1 and 2 (consider them 3 and 4). And 3 and 4 have a 50% chance of proc'ing a feather that you use between attacks for more damage.

It does have other buttons (and to be honest, all the classes have more than a few buttons that get used), but it's still considered the simplest class in the game. And it's basic gameplay is set in stone by level 50.

SMN isn't hard too and you get a healer as a plus.

Red Mage is fairly straightforward. Just make sure you keep black and white mana balanced. Other than that it’s fairly standard.

I would say Bard is the simplest job, that i(n a nutshell) just presses the same spammable action while watching a proc from it, always keep a song rolling and watch 2 dots.

You're going to get answers for each job here. As you almost already have. My suggestions are Dancer or Red Mage.

DNC is actually something I'm new to. Unlike Red Mage, I don't have another character for it. So, feel free to disregard my suggestion on it. But! It's rotation is literally an RNG proc chain. You press your first 1-2 combo. Did something light up? Press them. Did something else light up? Press it (which one you press depends on if you're Single Target or AoE). Again, did something else light up? Press it. It's the same for AoE. That's the "meat and potatoes" to DNC DPS. You also have two Step attacks. Standard step is you press the button to start it. A button will light up. Press it! Another one will light up. Press it! Then, your Standard Step will light up and you press it again to activate. Techenical Step at level 70 is the same thing except with 4 button presses.

If you can press buttons that light up, then you're already mostly there with DNC. Another nice feature is you never have to stop moving and have a Dash with 1/2/3 charges depending on level. Mechanics are much easier with all the movement afforded to you.

Red Mage has a gauge that you have to balance close to each other between White and Black magic. Because of this, it's relatively difficult to not know what to press next. It perfect conditions, it has a flow to it that is easy to get used to. It goes even further with this idea because of Dualcast. Dualcast makes it so whenever you hardcast a spell, the next one will be instant. Your spells will be broken up into "short cast" spells such and "long cast" spells. Use your short casts to prime your longer ones. Then, you just throw in your oGCD abilities and you've pretty much have RDM figured out. It has a bit more technique to it to min/max with proper timing of your buffs and oCGDs that move you. But, it's still relatively easy to get used to.

Out of DNC and RDM, I personally think DNC is a bit easier. I've been really enjoying it lately. Could just be because it's new and because I have a friend I play with that I enjoy buffing. Another reason I'd suggest DNC over RDM is at lower levels, RDM can be a little bit wonky whenever you don't have your full melee combo or certain buffs. DNC has a majority of its basic DPS tools early on.

Definitely Dancer or Red Mage.

Dancer's DPS is RNG based so go for it if you like gambling and being useful for the team.

RDM has some RNG as well but it's not very impactful, so it's personal DPS is 100% reliable unlike the Dancer.

Yeah, Dancer is definitely the easiest. And as long as you're hitting your dances (which is extremely easy) your dance partner and team will be largely benefitted regardless of your own personal play so you don't even have to be perfect on Dancer anyway.

I also find Machinist very simple. You do have to hit certain buttons a lot but outside of that the basic play is not complicated at all. It's very obvious when you need to hit certain buttons and despite having guages the use of them is extremely simplified. As long as you have decent ping, Machinist is dead easy.

Red Mage or Dancer. RDM is boring but effective and Dancer is Simon Says the Job class.

I should probably level dancer because of how casual it can be.

Sheesh, all you guys out there with Dancer, Red Mage, and the like ...

The easiest DPS role out there, with the fewest buttons to press, has to be either Scholar or White Mage.

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Originally Posted by Raikai

I would say Bard is the simplest job, that i(n a nutshell) just presses the same spammable action while watching a proc from it, always keep a song rolling and watch 2 dots.

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Pretty much: 1,2,<some rigaramarole about songs>,3,3,3,3,[proc! Hit whatever's lit],3,3,3, eventually 1,2 or the 'renew dots' once you get it,3,3,3, etc.

Plus, you get to run around like a chicken crossing a roundabout. Or not.

DPS with the simplest rotation would be Red mage or Dancer.

Red mage requires a bit more situational awareness for ressing people. The rotation is pretty much charge black and white mana by alternating your veraero and verfire combo with verstone and verthunder. Then use a melee combo to deal high damage.

Dancer is just proc based. A portion of your DPS is going to the party. The situational awareness for this job is to coordinate buffs with the party (but it's more like just never miss your Standard Step and Tech Step when it comes up and you'll never drift from your burst windows).

Hands down MCH, I recommend MCH, it’s a good stepping stone and when your ready you can try out the better more elaborate jobs

Cynical remarks aside MCH only drawback in terms of being full accessible job is ping. If that’s not a issue this is the unofficial blue tag job as it has the least amount of skills, infinite mobility and it’s mechanics (singular mechanic) is pretty much automatic and can be mastered in 3-6 minutes or less. Hands down easiest job in the game surpassing RDM and DNC.

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Originally Posted by Rongway

Dancer has the fewest buttons and is most straightforward. Basically DNC:

Is a button highlighted?
Yes) Press it.
No) Press 1.

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Disregarding Role skills, MCH actually has the least with 19 while DNC has 21 and RDM having 26 give or take if Scorch/VerFlare/Holy counts as skills.

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Originally Posted by Raikai

I would say Bard is the simplest job, that i(n a nutshell) just presses the same spammable action while watching a proc from it, always keep a song rolling and watch 2 dots.

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Hard disagree, DNC and MCH are far simpler. This isn’t the argument of how hard is BRD but that it’s no where as simple as it’s sister jobs.

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Originally Posted by DPZ2

Sheesh, all you guys out there with Dancer, Red Mage, and the like ...

The easiest DPS role out there, with the fewest buttons to press, has to be either Scholar or White Mage.

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lol why are we talking about healers in a dps thread?

But back to the topic of actual dps; Don't let the ability to revive people on RDM be a deterrent. You can setup a macro to target dead people without ever leaving your primary attack target.

/micon Verraise
/ac Verraise <4>
/ac Verraise <5>
/ac Verraise <2>
/ac Verraise <3>
/ac Verraise <6>
/ac Verraise <7>

It will attempt to raise healers first, tanks second, and then dps, and skip anyone who is currently alive assuming you have the default party order in the party list. This macro made reviving much easier for me. Just wait for a dualcast proc to make your next spell instant and then press macro to be the star of the party.

Simplest Rotation is BLM.

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You can setup a macro

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But for a gcd you shouldn't. Learn to target, and roll the gcd well. If you want to get decent at dps, don't adopt bad gameplay habits like macroing gcds. Even Verraise.

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Originally Posted by NobleWinter

lol why are we talking about healers in a dps thread?

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'cuz their DPS capability has exactly 3 buttons to press :)

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Originally Posted by DPZ2

'cuz their DPS capability has exactly 3 buttons to press :)

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They also have actual responsibilities aside from DPS, with levelling content and older content often demanding more attention from you than current content, mostly due to item level advantage and the plethora of free oGCD heals you have at endgame. I wouldn’t recommend people heal until they’re comfortable abcing first, and for that Black Mage is a better option than other classes, even someone dedicated to healing in other games I’d recommend Arcanist first just to get used to the GCD timer. Conjurer is a good tutorial healer, but it’s not a free DPS class. I find new players still need the basics first.

Black Mage or Dragoon would be my DPS recommendation from level 1. And anyone looking to learn will not want to boost.

I love this thread, yeah I know it's aging.
Q-"Which is the easiest & very less button press DPS job there is?"
Forum Responses-- Dancer, Bard, Red Mage, Machinist, Summoner, Scholar, Black Mage, White Mage, Dragoon and Honorable mention Monk. :)
Majority votes...DANCER.

If I am correct that means only Ninja, Samurai, and Blue Mage are eliminated as possibilities.
And there are those who will tell you Blue Mage is not even a real job.

OP I hope that narrows it down for you. :) Good luck.

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Originally Posted by AlwaysConfused

I love this thread, yeah I know it's aging.
Q-"Which is the easiest & very less button press DPS job there is?"
Forum Responses-- Dancer, Bard, Red Mage, Machinist, Summoner, Scholar, Black Mage, White Mage, Dragoon and Honorable mention Monk. :)
Majority votes...DANCER.

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"The most complex, challenging and skillful job is the one I play, whatever I don't play is a baby job for babies."

Alternatively: "I've played my job and nothing else for 10 years it's so easy, anyone who thinks it's hard is just dumb lul."

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Originally Posted by AlwaysConfused

I love this thread, yeah I know it's aging.
Q-"Which is the easiest & very less button press DPS job there is?"
Forum Responses-- Dancer, Bard, Red Mage, Machinist, Summoner, Scholar, Black Mage, White Mage, Dragoon and Honorable mention Monk. :)
Majority votes...DANCER.

If I am correct that means only Ninja, Samurai, and Blue Mage are eliminated as possibilities.
And there are those who will tell you Blue Mage is not even a real job.

OP I hope that narrows it down for you. :) Good luck.

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Well, different people are going to have different opinions. The only suggestion I raised an eyebrow at was summoner.

I would not recommend that particular job to someone looking for something easy. It's a shame because arcanist is a fun starting class.

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Originally Posted by Tulzscha

"The most complex, challenging and skillful job is the one I play, whatever I don't play is a baby job for babies."

Alternatively: "I've played my job and nothing else for 10 years it's so easy, anyone who thinks it's hard is just dumb lul."

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Funny, I've read every post and none of them say or imply that. Are you certain you posted in the correct thread? :confused:

Anyways, the easiest job with not that many buttons to press is dancer. Red mage is a close second.

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Originally Posted by DPZ2

'cuz their DPS capability has exactly 3 buttons to press :)

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People choosing healers for the easy 3 button dps rotation explains why I get these wild healers who refuse to heal anything in dungeons. Like the dps aspect isnt even fun for a healer so why they cant stop to press medica or cure 2 or even a single regen astounds me. Clearly they are in it for the super chill dps rotation and don't mind constantly wiping.

Just be a dark knight. Pretty much a dps class that just happens to hold agro xD

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Originally Posted by Stepjam

Honestly I'd have recommended Monk because even though it has 2 combos, that's almost all it has aside from a few oGCDs and buffs.

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As a monk main, I wouldn't recommend Monk to anybody who is trying to play the game for fun or try something new. The class has just been on a decline since HW.