So much crashing!

first after beating juggernaut my computer overheated(its never done that i use very low settings, but cant fully blame ffxiv YET) then logged on, got directx error(not using full screen), logged on again, same dx error! logged on again seemed to be working okay for 5mins. then got a ffxiv stopped working error. what the heck is going on. I have all the settings on lowest in game/config program. and have card settings to application controlled. I have even now set the resolution so low it is unfun to play, and that appears to be the only thing keeping it afloat.. HELP!

Try updating your drivers bro, might help a bit. Also open up task manager and see how many bg programs you have running.

i closed everything, and i used to have tons of things running, plus resolution very high, and textures high and everything high now I cannot this patch obviously needs an emergency fix

also- dx is correct version and most up to date. and my nvidia drivers are up to date

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Originally Posted by Mushy

i closed everything, and i used to have tons of things running, plus resolution very high, and textures high and everything high now I cannot this patch obviously needs an emergency fix

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I doubt it's the patch. Check your video card drivers, sometimes they get corrupted and such. The latest ensure that they will play friendly with the game.

ofcourse it is the patch I have seen many others say the same. I have not had a single hiccup with this game after beta, and early launch - suddenly I am overheating, getting dx errors, and ffxiv exit errors

DX error = Graphic driver crash , nothing to do with direct X
Latest drivers aren't always the best choice either , i refuse to update my driver because it runs well as it is now.. pretty sure i get into more problems when i update to newest driver.
Problem of DX crash lays with the FFxiv program/client however

I call dibs on dust in the system. Dust, and a broken fan.

funny you should mention dust, I had just cleaned the dust out 2 weeks ago for the first time in a year(messy) dust free as much as I can dedust. Currently I took off the side since that only has a small fan, and have a big very cold fan pointed right at my card and proc

Why cant people just admit its the patch? It is the only thing that has changed... The patch is running my computer too hot. as for all of the dx/ffxiv errors I don't know what to do to stop them so atleast with this big ass fan aimed in there it wont over heat
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also there was a newer nvidia driver that came out the 13th, I was running one a month earlier. I looked through what the update is and doesn't seem like it would help anything BUT i updated anyway

If youve been using a program to see cpu/gpu temps you can see for yourself it is running a lot hotter than the previous patch

I agree its the patch, for some reason my FPS went from 40 in town to 20 and sometimes 1. Yet it doesnt happen with any other game like BF3.

I've always had alot of random crashes on FFXIV but it only seems to happen in 2 ways,

1: When I return to Uldah theres about a 20% chance I'll instantly crash
2: When skipping a CS (such as Airship or grabbing choco) prob about a 25% chance i'll instantly crash.

Also before anyway says it yes all my drivers are up to date.

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Originally Posted by Mushy

If youve been using a program to see cpu/gpu temps you can see for yourself it is running a lot hotter than the previous patch

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I've noticed my GPU temps have increased from 59c to 65c in Uldah and 65-70c to 73-80c out in the field, I cleaned my PC out the other day to and my temps have barely dropped.

Thanks for people finally not pointing the finger at me, I know how to work a computer thank you! I really hope this is addressed in 1.22a, as I am currently scared to do anything without overheating my computer. I don't know if I mentioned it earlier in the thread but I now took off the side panel and have a HUGE fan pointed directly at my graphics card and processor. I will occasionally reach in to see how hot they are, since I now turn off EVERYTHING possible to run the game: including little things like a small program to tell me temps. The first time it overheated and emergency shutdown itsself -- I touched my graphics card and it gave me a blister I still have on my finger(I am not even kidding)

I love playing but I am a nervous wreck this patch is going to destroy my hardware, and I cannot afford to replace a graphics card or processor or motherboard.

this is me pleading to the devs: PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD FIX THIS! I don't want to have to wait until 2.0 to play again, but if its the choice of my hardware or the game... I am going to choose my hardware certainly. Please ): please devs, fix the issue its serious

Crashed again after selecting character. It was the FFXIV error(the one with the icon on the side)

First time playing today

for the love of god please fix what you have done devs!

It is seriously getting to the point where I just stop and wait until 2.0 this is beyond ridiculous

How many people have to voice it? How loud do I have to scream? Do I call SE Phone support. Is the developers even aware of the issues? Who the hell knows?! The mods don't tell you. could you acknowledge that there is an issue?

You are having the welcome back program on the 9th and if crashing is what people get YOU BLOW IT AGAIN! fix it
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ever stop to think it very well could have been due to new content.. more people on the server? not the patch its self as much as the load on the servers?

Funny you should mention this, because I play on my laptop, limited cooling etc etc, and the only time my game crashes is when skipping CS's in instances, thats happened in Garuda, Hamlet and Cutters Cry, but seriously if you have to point a fan an your card to keep it cool I would make sure your GPU fan is working, it could be that a blade has been damaged, or the entire fan has failed. A failure of the fan will cause these overheating problems and it will cause terminal damage to your card so you need to check them.

Your symptoms seem to indicate that to me, if it was a patch problem your game would still crash and cause problems on the lowest settings.

2 of my PCs have the issue where it will occasionally crash after I zone/load. Not sure what It is but for sure there is an issue there. My other PC will almost always crash after a load but ONLY If I adjusted my UI in that session. On that PC If I need to make UI adjustments I log out and back In after there made. Its always been like this for me.

As far as heat goes, If I don't crank my fans I will overheat. before I log In I crank my GPU fans to 50% and then when I log out I set them back to automatic, Its a PITA but my temps are great when I do this.
Its also a good Idea to clean out any dust you get In your PC. Make sure all your case intake holes are clean, lots of cases these days have hard to clean spots for some reason.

I too have noticed a spike in my GPU temperature only when I'm playing FFXIV. It gets ridiculously hot to the touch. I have a small desk fan pointed right at my video card as a temporary solution. I checked to make sure my fans are running properly and have cleaned out my PC too, despite it not having been that dirty and dusty to begin with. The temperature spike used to never happen before and it doesn't happen when I play or do anything else, so... I dunno lol

i have had and increase in GPU temps (averaged at 10 Degrees Celsius), but have yet to have a random crash or any crash at all for that matter.

maybe your card cant handle the increased thermal output, try using MSi afterburner or rivatuner to control your fan. i use stepping mode, instead of manual or automatic modes.

Don't know if it's just this patch, but I've seen a lot more crashes than usual. People would crash as they're entering the Garuda fight or just randomly walking/riding around. Doesn't happen to me often but it has happened a few times.

Well Mushy must have realized it wasn't the patch. And the game wasn't overheating anything but his/her temper. Would have been nice to tell people but I guess that's the same as him/her admitting a mistake. :)

It is uncommon to have only direct x problems with overheating, the occasional BSoD will almost always show up. With that said, this case I'd be willing to bet a bearing in the fan, on the heatsink of the GPU went out.

That's my best guess.

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It is uncommon to have only direct x problems with overheating, the occasional BSoD will almost always show up. With that said, this case I'd be willing to bet a bearing in the fan, on the heatsink of the GPU went out.

That's my best guess.

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This is more widespread than just OP. DirectX errors are pretty rampant with the 1.21 and 1.22 updates.

I have a friend who played fine till last patch and wham, crashes and locks system right after it. vOver hauled system, updated DIrect X, checked that the ati dll is in right folders, still crashes and started the moment after the patch.

my pc spec amd a-8 series 2.9 ghz o.c to 4.7 quad core 8gig mem/graphic card is xfx core ati raidon hd67770 1gig ddr5 dedicated and i have all settings maxed some days it playes fine other days it lages/crashes my case is a thermal take black widow series with 2 xxl fans top and side reg fan infront one in the rear psu 550w thermal take apu stays cool graph stays cool psu stays cool it is the game and it cant be fixed in its current stat that is why remake was done either deal with it or play 11 till it comes out

This is one of the things I do not like about the dev team for FFXI and FFXIV

When they tweak some things in the code there is not full disclosure to help us keep our rigs performing as intended.

They also do not release recommended drivers for card families. (although they did this for 11)

This is one thing i hope they change in ARR. tell us what drivers you're using when you're testing!

I've gotten a few random crashes myself, and when i CTRL+ALT+DEL to exit the game (because it wont end the program, it loads for hours), an error message pops up for Direct X, and then the task manager shows up and I exit the game from there. I don't get enough time to read what the direct X error is, but I have the most recent graphic drivers and everything. Since this patch is the only time I have gotten these errors.

In fact, earlier this morning i got this error in the middle of a leve and decided to just not play. I had to leave for work in the next hour anyways but I could have finished a few leves while waiting. :P