(Edit: I have been seeing some of the commenters on this thread think I was implying "FF14 was dying". By me saying "there is a energy I felt gone from the FF14 community" does not imply the game was dead or even in decline. The energy I directly reference that I feel many may have missed is "energy of seeing new players experiencing the same nature of the unknown". This energy can be boiled down in my opinion to a very select few events i.e. launches/expansions, that I consider also happening now with no new major content released such as mentioned in my examples)
Now let me get the blunt points outta the way, yes...Am I concerned that FF14 community may become more toxic?
Yes. But does this mean it will become toxic, No! We just do not know. But I am still grateful.
Why you may ask? Because for the first time based on what I have seen as a player both on social media and in game, there is a energy I felt gone from the FF14 community that in my opinion has somewhat come back.
What energy you may ask...the energy of seeing new players again experiencing the same nature of the unknown I believe many felt going into the story, lore, dungeons, and all matters that make FF14 the game that it is.
I am grateful for the likes of Asmongold, Annie Fuchsia and Bellular Gaming bringing this influx of attention to FF14.
I am also very grateful to Mr. Happy, Meoni, Work To Game and other veteran content creators for doing what they do of providing a voice and cornerstone that make up the FF14 community!
Why?
Because I believe the larger a community is, the more diverse and stronger it becomes!
Does this mean we as players should not be cautious or be considerate to others?
No! This means as players we should look past all of our preconceived notions of each other and new communities to react accordingly only when we perceive a clear issue we hope may never come up.
We are the FF14 Community. We are FF14. I hope at the end the day we all try to remember that.
Take care of yourself and one another. Why? So we can see everyone in Eorzea and beyond for many years to come!
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07-14-2021, 10:42 AMTheRealMadruckI am grateful! How Player Influx Breathed Life Into FF14 Again...
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07-14-2021, 10:48 AMPuremallace
Even before this influx I saw new players all the time. Did none of you guys do the leveling roulette or Main Scenario daily stuff? For sure you are more likely to get an entire group of sprouts but FF14 in my experience has never been lacking for new people.
The biggest issue with FF14 is veterans scaring off new people from playing with crap from 7 years ago they remember about ARR being the worst thing ever in MMO's. Like have any of you ever played anything other then FF14 in your lives? -
07-14-2021, 10:56 AMOranKells
First we need to dispense with the idea that Warcraft has a monopoly on toxicity.
Must get rid of toxic in community. Sure.
We got our own flavors of toxic to be sure, its just not the 12 year olds screaming profanities in an xbox voice chat or the kind of hardcore neck beards wow is known for.
Ours is more flower children with opinions regarded as fact. Theory crafters that take RP a little too seriously. The "you don't pay my sub" crowd that are obstinately bad and never equip a job stone.
Don't worry. It's nothing we haven't seen before even if we have to suddenly deal with more mainstream veins of toxic players -
07-14-2021, 11:08 AMAngeliouxRein
While working on ARR relics it’s interesting having to compete with all new players doing every fate in every single map. It’s fun but also frustrating when it’s the fate I need lol. But at least their popping the fates faster by doing all them constantly throughout the day.
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07-14-2021, 11:11 AMryouma17god no, i avoid the main scenario roulette like the plague. it aint worth the exp/tomesQuote:
Originally Posted by Puremallace
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07-14-2021, 11:55 AMJeeqbitThis energy certainly was not gone. For the last two years whenever I've visited other servers the cities have been full of sprouts experiencing the story for the first time, long before this whole thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck
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07-14-2021, 11:58 AMSturmChurro
I wasn't aware the game was dead or dying. I'm glad I'm not on Aether though.
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07-14-2021, 12:04 PMVahlnir
There wasn't really a problem before all of these people joined. Things were fine and the player base was healthy. Even so, more players is always a good thing. Running out of digital codes for the game is a good problem to have. The servers are clearly under some stress though. I've seen a lot of people lagging and d/cing today.
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07-14-2021, 12:06 PMbass9020The games been dying since 1.0 dont ya know!Quote:
Originally Posted by SturmChurro
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07-14-2021, 12:33 PMTaleraRistainHahaha, I was working on WHM ARR relic on an alt recently, too. didn't compete with them. I just shouted to please let me know if X FATE popped and let them go at it if the FATE piranhas were too fast for me. Or helped out if needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by AngeliouxRein
I do see more sprout icons in the cities and in places like Mor Donuts and Gobbyshire. I run Alliance every day so lots of sprouts in CT there.
As far as Aether load, I haven't noticed any problems on Jenova. The streamer servers probably suck, though. -
07-14-2021, 05:28 PMKes13awe might have a differing opinion here.... but I did not think we were dying prior to these people trying the game... at all. FFXIV was not on life support nor was the dev team trying to kill the game off.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck
assuming the GM's continue to do their jobs, I dont expects people doing toxic things to stay a part of the community for long if they are reported as they should be.
however, I am really not sure why you are saying we should not be considerate to others. is that just poorly written or is that really the point of the post or how you feel?
I am sure that so many, judging by the fan postings in the forums, think the streamers have "saved" FFXIV, this is not the case. we were fine before, we will still be fine as long as the devs keep doing what they are doing. there have always been a decent amount of sprouts breathing life into the game, so, relax, we arent exactly wasting away... -
07-14-2021, 08:11 PMMingqinWell, technically it is, all things including ourselves are slowly dying :PQuote:
Originally Posted by SturmChurro
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07-14-2021, 09:23 PMLaylaTsarra
Game has been growing. Cities are always full. This happened well before a certain streamer hit the scene.
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07-14-2021, 11:08 PMReynTimeMSQ roulette is the only thing worse than Expert Brainless-hallway-simulator Roulette right now due the random toxicity and freeloaders making an already tedious duty drag longer. So I certainly do not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Puremallace
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07-15-2021, 01:19 AMTheRealMadruckSincere question...when I wrote:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kes13a
"Does this mean we as players should not be cautious or be considerate to others? No!", so now let me remove the prior part to this sentence.
"Does this mean we as players should not be considerate to others? No!".
How Kes13a did you interpret that as me saying we should not be considerate of others when this sentence which is correctly framed means the opposite of your implication? Truly amazing. -
07-15-2021, 01:23 AMNeoyoshi
It was like this before the launch of Shadowbringers, and also before the launch of Stormblood.
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07-15-2021, 03:33 AMAlexandre_NoireauThis is kinda diferent in someways.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neoyoshi
The servers are not ready and it shows. But well. Hopefully they are ready for Endwalker lunch. -
07-15-2021, 03:37 AMDriavnaNot that I remember tbh. I glad there is a lot of people playing but will see what happens at Endwalker release.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neoyoshi
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07-15-2021, 05:35 AMHyperiaWell… there the same servers that soldiered through the ShB launch so there no pushovers. The challenge is what tthey want to do in the expansion would probably push the existing infrastructure too much. As it is now, the servers are doing a great job with player activity that is nearly the same as the ShB launch weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexandre_Noireau
Any other game that took in several hundred thousand new players would probably have melted down in flames.
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07-15-2021, 05:41 AMCaurcas
The game is stagnating somewhat, and that seriously hurts its future.
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07-15-2021, 05:44 AMZachia
New player here / WoW refugee, Thank you for having me! As I entered FF14 I love the campaign and i've finished A realm reborn this week and it was a wonderful campaign, and brought all kinds of emotions from happyness, to curosity, to amazement, to sadness, anger and even wrath. I never once thought of how bad the game was and it was glorious. The only time i ever got annoyed was with the crap loads of fetch quests / doing primals on hard and extreme and go here and there without much point before the final moments of the ARR campaign. Thats where the anger, sadness, and wrath comes in but i wont spoil it for new onlookers as veterans know what i would be talking about. Vengeance shall be mine. The people on my server was wonderful and helpful i even joined a super friendly free company that has been nothing but passionate and considerate :D. I continue to hope to have many wonderful days going foward in this amazing game with amazing people!
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07-15-2021, 05:51 AMXabyTimberwolf
New player here (from Warcraft) and just speaking for me but some streamers I never watched or care about had zero influence on my decision for trying this game out.