Asmongold increases FFxiv subs?

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07-05-2021, 02:20 PM
Frogstone

Asmongold increases FFxiv subs?

How will the subscription fair with Asmongold?

He would of brought sub's into the game, will he cause subscription loss and therefore break even?

Surplus, or deficit?

does Asmongold media attention add to or subtract from the game?
07-05-2021, 02:21 PM
van_arn

Sorry, my crystal ball went on strike.
07-05-2021, 02:26 PM
Jirah

I don’t know who he is but pseudo celebrities will do that. Imagine if Mr Beast or some other fake celebrity joined the game? Any person with a following will do that
07-05-2021, 02:34 PM
Fawkes

Probably a boost to free trials at least.

Kinda hard to attribute subs to anything else when people can just play the game themselves for free and see if they want to sub or not.
07-05-2021, 03:54 PM
Jeeqbit

It will be difficult to tell because Endwalker is going to cause a massive boost in subscriptions.
07-05-2021, 04:19 PM
AnPo

So far on steam was new online record - 47,542 all-time peak due to Asmon streams.
And also new record on twitch in ff section too - 221,605 viewers.
07-05-2021, 04:28 PM
Arazehl

Frogstone give it up ok? We can all smell trolls. Like your post before this one.
07-05-2021, 06:39 PM
Jkap_Goat

Man who cares about this person, like imagine talking about someone instead of, idk talking about something more important like the homogenized jobs or what job actions will be removed from the next expansion..

Idk why people are so up this persons ass
07-05-2021, 06:56 PM
AnPo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jkap_Goat

Man who cares about this person, like imagine talking about someone instead of, idk talking about something more important like the homogenized jobs or what job actions will be removed from the next expansion..

Idk why people are so up this persons ass

Huuuuuge (biggest so far) media attention to ffxiv -> more newcomers -> more budget to make ffxiv better.

But yeah, suure, it's not important at all.
07-05-2021, 07:33 PM
Jkap_Goat

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnPo

Huuuuuge (biggest so far) media attention to ffxiv -> more newcomers -> more budget to make ffxiv better.

But yeah, suure, it's not important at all.

More budget to make FFXIV better?
I hate when people think all the money that FFXIV makes goes straight to XIV when it really doesn't, it goes to other resources at SE, just like the money that ff7r makes, FFXI, ect.

And i seen asmogold stream, hes a person who very vulgar and has alot of bias opinions, i dont think SE should be promoting someone like that.
07-05-2021, 07:40 PM
Slixi

I don't see why he'd reduce subs. I guess it's possible but not likely to be anything of significance.

Long term, he'll probably have a small impact on subs. Some people will try ffxiv and enjoy it. They'll stay. Eventually though I think he'll go back to WoW. When he does a lot of the people who followed him will also leave.

There are currently a lot of shrubs in game Most of us came over before he did. He's talking about FFXIV because every day WoW fans started talking about it. He's just following the money by doing what everyone is talking about.
07-05-2021, 10:06 PM
Colt47

Asmongold trying out FFXIV is sort of a long time coming. WoW has been falling apart and the main reason a lot of streamers were sticking to it exclusively was the views they got and the fact it was a very nostalgic game. A lot of people played it back in the glory days and gave up later on it when things turned sour.

Bellular and other content creators also moved to play FFXIV and are actively promoting it due to the direction World of Warcraft was taking. My own opinion is that WoWs days are numbered. WoW Classic was the last big hurrah: A swan song to a once great game that tons of people loved.
07-06-2021, 12:09 AM
Raikai

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frogstone

How will the subscription fair with Asmongold?

He would of brought sub's into the game, will he cause subscription loss and therefore break even?

Surplus, or deficit?

does Asmongold media attention add to or subtract from the game?

I honestly doubt that a good portion of WoW players that come specifically because of him are going to actually stay.

XIV's pve model is far different from WoW's instant gratification, among other things.
07-06-2021, 12:19 AM
Linadae

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raikai

I honestly doubt that a good portion of WoW players that come specifically because of him are going to actually stay.

XIV's pve model is far different from WoW's instant gratification, among other things.

Hate to break it to you but WoW moved away from the “Do content, get gear” method or as you want to call it “instant gratification”. Now they’ve moved over to more of what you see in a mobile game. Conduits upgraded randomly, and raid gear can drop with random stats.

If any game has instant gratification, it’s our game.
07-06-2021, 01:31 AM
Vahlnir

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raikai

I honestly doubt that a good portion of WoW players that come specifically because of him are going to actually stay.

XIV's pve model is far different from WoW's instant gratification, among other things.

Yeah, you clearly haven't played WoW for awhile.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linadae

Hate to break it to you but WoW moved away from the “Do content, get gear” method or as you want to call it “instant gratification”. Now they’ve moved over to more of what you see in a mobile game. Conduits upgraded randomly, and raid gear can drop with random stats.

If any game has instant gratification, it’s our game.

This right here.
07-06-2021, 03:48 AM
MoonPhaseAlpha

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jkap_Goat

Man who cares about this person, like imagine talking about someone instead of, idk talking about something more important like the homogenized jobs or what job actions will be removed from the next expansion..

Idk why people are so up this persons ass

It's the entire celebrity culture... Lots of people put way too much stock in individuals that are celebrities. It becomes an obsession. Smh.
07-06-2021, 04:04 AM
Moonlite

Not sure about subs, but he sure moved the needle on twitch. Companies pay people for that kind of exposure. I am not sure you could pay him though. He seems like if he didn't like something he would call it out anyways. And generally the people you pay shouldn't take shots at your game.
07-13-2021, 06:50 PM
Drakonic

Well, we all know now that it's clearly a huge increase, considering the game ran out on the store... And these are probably not merely free trial players. Not to say this is only Asmongold's influence. There's also Cohh, Bellular, etc.
07-13-2021, 07:27 PM
Rhus

And close to every world is now full apparantely lol
07-13-2021, 07:43 PM
Payadopa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jkap_Goat

More budget to make FFXIV better?
I hate when people think all the money that FFXIV makes goes straight to XIV when it really doesn't, it goes to other resources at SE, just like the money that ff7r makes, FFXI, ect.

And i seen asmogold stream, hes a person who very vulgar and has alot of bias opinions, i dont think SE should be promoting someone like that.

If you say 100% of what we pay in goes back into the game then, yeah, that's very naive. But the approved budget for the next expansion etc. does improve. And why wouldn't it.
Putting in more to get even more back sounds like a valid business strategy. Unless you are EA or Activison where you try to see with how much you can get away with. That's also something Blizz is learning, but that's neither here nor there.
07-14-2021, 08:23 AM
Catwho

Sub money goes straight to SE corporate, but Yoshi P has said in the past that at the very least, cash shop money goes into the XIV budget.

It's sort of how like in my software office IRL our license fees from our clients goes to our parent department to cover our salaries and overhead and stuff, but any time we win grant money we get to keep it for ourselves.