Eureka Updates to be on par with Bozja

I don't know if this is the right place to make suggestions, so please bear with me.

I've been thinking a lot about how fast skirmishes and CEs in Bozja spawn, as well as what feels like an overall generosity with how to farm the relic. Meanwhile, back in Eureka, Hydatos is still stuck with about 90 Hydatos Crystals per 2 hours, maybe more if Ovni keeps spawning or if BA is ongoing for support fates.

Would it be possible to go back to Eureka and touch up some spots to be more on par with Bozja?

Thoughts I've had include:
- Decrease respawn time for NMs by half (1 hour instead of 2)
- Increase drop amounts (i.e. PW drops 20 crystals instead of 10, or more even)
- Introduce mount speed increases to Eureka
- Potentially add a out of Eureka leveling system, like Bozja (This, I understand, would be immensely difficult. Still would like to put the idea on the table)

Other ideas go as extreme as making NMs require the bare minimum to spawn (30 kills), buffing echo even MORE, and making rare item drops less rare.

Please, add your thoughts as well, as well as hopefully help me to get SE to see this and potentially take action. I know people have their issues with Bozja, but I definitely think that Eureka deserves some of the love that Bozja got so that it can be more lively, as well as not just skipped over, as many of my friends seem to suggest doing nowadays.

It would be nice if Notorious Monsters give real XP so we can work on alt jobs while progressing in Eureka

Logos action needs the lost cache makeover.

The reason why the Save the Queen areas offer EXP is because Shadowbringers did not get a Deep Dungeon like PotD in HW or HoH in StB, so they allocated resources of what would have been used on the deep dungeon planning, to allow the accumulation of EXP for classes level 71-80.

Keep in mind, Eureka has it's own leveling system, which affects your gameplay and progression in the four areas of Eureka, while Bozja, you only increase your rank which allow use of newer actions.

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Originally Posted by toramorigan

The reason why the Save the Queen areas offer EXP is because Shadowbringers did not get a Deep Dungeon like PotD in HW or HoH in StB, so they allocated resources of what would have been used on the deep dungeon planning, to allow the accumulation of EXP for classes level 71-80.

Keep in mind, Eureka has it's own leveling system, which affects your gameplay and progression in the four areas of Eureka, while Bozja, you only increase your rank which allow use of newer actions.

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The rank system and the elemental level system are the same in theory, though. Regardless, I understand if they wouldn't implement class leveling in Eureka, but if they could, it'd be nice to get to help spark some life.

I just want to be able to trade in crystal for Pw scales :(

I want something akin to Rays. Having a permanent damage buff would be amazing to take to lower level places like Pagos that don't have actions.

Sorry if I'm sort of necro'ing an older thread, but this is a topic I've come to feel strongly about since finishing the EW MSQ. I only started playing seriously post-ShB, so Eureka is content I hadn't started until just recently - after having gotten into Bozja and relic farming there after doing the ShB MSQ. The Bozja experience was so great - I loved it right from the start. Even once maps started having lower populations closer to EW's release, it was still easy to get skirmishes and CE's to pop even playing solo by grinding out a reasonable number of mobs. Resistance level experience gain felt quick even before they buffed the gains on it. But now, as someone going back to the older content in Eureka, I can't believe how slow the process feels. I'm not expecting actual job experience in there since I know HoH is meant to cover that for the content released at that time, but good lord elemental levels go up slow. I wonder if SqEx would ever consider giving some buffs just to elemental level gain. Considering how things left off at the end of EW story-wise, with Krile wanting to rebuild the Students of Baldesion, I wanted to go through the content just to experience and complete the story, less so for relic reasons.

Kinda disagree on a lot of points. I find Bozja relics much more tedious/bothersome to grind out, simply for how spread out everything is. I mean, hell, the first one-time step can't even be progressed within StQ regions. Bozja just feels like it pulls you in several directions all at once. Need to farm clusters to get your riding maps and some handy frags, but farming clusters doesn't get you much of anything else, need to do skirmishes and CEs which don't give you clusters, oh CLL/Dal popped, do sorta need to do that for one step, but takes away time from doing others (if it even gets a group together), need to duck out of the instances entirely to do DR and also duck out just to progress the relic steps.

Bozja ranks feel awful for not actually getting any stronger, unlike elemental levels. At least I know when I go back for Eureka weapons, I'm strong enough to be safe for the majority of the zone, and can comfortably solo a lot of stuff.

Can probably agree on buffing drop rates, tho. Being able to reasonably collect your 6th and 7th magicite items would definitely go a long way to easing issues.

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Originally Posted by AureliaF

Sorry if I'm sort of necro'ing an older thread, but this is a topic I've come to feel strongly about since finishing the EW MSQ. I only started playing seriously post-ShB, so Eureka is content I hadn't started until just recently - after having gotten into Bozja and relic farming there after doing the ShB MSQ. The Bozja experience was so great - I loved it right from the start. Even once maps started having lower populations closer to EW's release, it was still easy to get skirmishes and CE's to pop even playing solo by grinding out a reasonable number of mobs. Resistance level experience gain felt quick even before they buffed the gains on it. But now, as someone going back to the older content in Eureka, I can't believe how slow the process feels. I'm not expecting actual job experience in there since I know HoH is meant to cover that for the content released at that time, but good lord elemental levels go up slow. I wonder if SqEx would ever consider giving some buffs just to elemental level gain. Considering how things left off at the end of EW story-wise, with Krile wanting to rebuild the Students of Baldesion, I wanted to go through the content just to experience and complete the story, less so for relic reasons.

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In both SB and ShB I took a long break right before Eureka and Bozja come out. The difference is leveling Resistance level is so much easier than Eureka. Bozja start at max level, you could mount at the very beginning and able to queue for CE are so much improvement over the “old MMO mindset” of Eureka.

Eureka does need an update. Sometimes when I queue I end up with less than 5 people or worst just me alone in an instance. For example, I was alone on Pagos and I tried to spawn fates but the higher level fates are harder to spawn by yourself, even on a Tank class with full elemental gear+2 like the Louhi mobs. Reason why I tend to end up with less people is because I sometimes play on "non-peak" hours such in the early morning or after work at night/midnight.

It would be great to at least get an "Epic Echo" like you get when you do Unsync duties and lower the spawn cool-down on fates OR keep the current cool-down but at least increase the drop rate on crystals and aether crystals yield.


Would be great if a mod or CM can forward this suggestion to YoshiP.

also make all the stuff on lockboxes to be tradable, mounts and such on bozja can be traded it's a shame the stuff on eureka cant.

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Originally Posted by toramorigan

The reason why the Save the Queen areas offer EXP is because Shadowbringers did not get a Deep Dungeon like PotD in HW or HoH in StB, so they allocated resources of what would have been used on the deep dungeon planning, to allow the accumulation of EXP for classes level 71-80.

Keep in mind, Eureka has it's own leveling system, which affects your gameplay and progression in the four areas of Eureka, while Bozja, you only increase your rank which allow use of newer actions.

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would you rather keep that because while it does make sense it makes the whole content very dead, I would rather Eureka be popular than just keep exp out of it because logic.

I love Eureka but would love to see more Fates spawning, Light farming, while optional is a beast. Bozja needs a fix as I cannot get past DR to progress forward and that seems wrong. There is no way for someone with limited play time to get their level 80 relics...