Agree with the OP, this system seems very unfairly tuned; I have spent more than 30 hours over the last 4 days farming notes 14, 17, 45 and 45 and still nothing and moreover nothing for any of the other players I have been with. At the very least there needs to be an ability to buy these logs using our useless Bozjan coins.
Locking story & lore behind RNG is not cool by the way. Please do better.
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06-02-2021, 09:10 AMDesmo46
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06-02-2021, 02:13 PMMahamonMeryall's note drop from there? O_o I've never seen it, not even once. I ran Dalriada almost 20 times now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jettinson
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06-02-2021, 02:16 PMVahlnirI could understand if even all of the Skirmish/CE drops were a low drop rate, perhaps insanely low. It keeps the zone busy. But Castrum and Dalriada? Those should have higher drop rates, for sure. I'm not opposed to the rest being increased, mind you, but those are what are going to give the most players trouble since a lot of people don't do duels. It does appear that the system isn't tuned very well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason_Ashford
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06-02-2021, 02:27 PMGarnix
Fabineau is one I am struggling with. It is not even that it is 'rare', but that skirmish just dies in a few seconds which is a bit ridiculous. So if you want to have a chance getting it you pretty much have to stay next to it waiting for it to spawn instead of actually playing the game.
I think it is fine for the ones that are guaranteed loot in Duels to be very rare outside of duels though. It makes duels a little bit more rewarding. Drop rates could still be increased a little bit though, I agree. -
06-02-2021, 03:13 PMJeeqbitTo get that, I killed Legion Death Machines to spawn An End to Atrocities. I was losing hope that these mobs really spawned it, when it spawned. After spawning it I started getting enmity on it and got the note first try.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garnix
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06-02-2021, 03:28 PMInfindoxI got his recently, but I know what you mean. I had to stay in Zone 2 for me to even have a CHANCE of reaching it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garnix
I've gotten lucky and only need three left, but yes I agree with some of the drops need to be fixed. Zadnor seems to be fine, because while grinding for some you can get decent mettle towards buffs. But anything in Bozja is almost worthless if you don't get the note. Trying to get into the Duel after Metal Wolf Chaos is also horrid.... It takes forever to pop and then good luck getting through. Same with Red Chocktober. All three CEs for the duels in Zadnor I have not had issues with.
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06-02-2021, 03:41 PMDuskane
Don't bother with Dalriada for Meryall i severely doubt shes in there she has nothing to do with the boss
i got mine up north in "Attack of the Supersoldiers"
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06-02-2021, 09:22 PMJason_Ashfordfrankly they need to increase the drop rate for the rarer field notes for Bozja, it is ridiculous that i have been grinding for several hours a day and not gotten even 1 of the 3 remaining field notes i need in BozjaQuote:
Originally Posted by Vahlnir
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06-03-2021, 01:56 AMAkiraChan
There are a couple of ways that would at least somewhat fix the problem everyone is experiencing.
1) Up the drop-rate from the rarer fieldnotes.*
2) Being able to exchange Bozjan currency for the fieldnotes even for high prices. Just to give an example, being able to trade 999 coins for Sartauvoire's or Dabog's note. (Maybe unlock after the player reaches a certain point of Marks of Honor)*
3) Lower the cooldown of the Skirmishes/Critical Engagements related to the fieldnotes that are on the higher end rarity, even if the duels were not to spawn it would at the least give players a chance more often to being able to obtain them.*
*I'm referring only to The Bozjan Southern Front as since Zadnor just recently released but it would also be a way to future-proof the content for any completionist players once Zadnor eventually reaches its downhill of activity.
This would ensure that not only everyone can get the mount behind collecting all notes but that people in the future are able to also collect them and that both can complete it without putting an insane amount of time into it.
We cannot expect the entire playerbase to do the duels and put in the entire timesink on top of the luck required to complete the log without doing the 1v1's -
06-03-2021, 09:33 AMHeyMcFly
I submitted a bug report on specifically one field note, Dyunbu #12
been trying to get it for just about a week- doing several instances of Bozja until lock out
I've done all of her skirmishes, gotten gold each time- I complete all of her skirmishes every time throughout each instance and not gotten a single note from her
There needs to be a better way to get her note
A bozja coin turn in or a trade in for the box that drops for her notes
Her skirmish for one, pops up too infrequent & requires a stupid pre requisite of not have too many CE's up or other skirmishes & it's still not guaranteed to spawn
It's been a week & I've only been after her note-- & I'm still waiting for them to drop
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06-03-2021, 10:24 AMDrWho2010
you're not sacrificing enough lalas
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06-03-2021, 03:57 PMInfindoxRNG is sometimes a bizzare one; in the process of trying to get the MDK and Savatour notes I've gotten three Dyunbus... But yeah, that skirmish chain is sometimes hard to get to pop. I remember I was in an instance we had it ready and literally everything else popped before it.Quote:
Originally Posted by HeyMcFly
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06-03-2021, 04:17 PMDuskane
Desire sensor is strong with field notes.
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06-03-2021, 04:48 PMJet_Kreiss
Agreed. This needs to be reviewed and addressed immediately. Unacceptable level of artificial difficulty; needs to be fixed and buffed ASAP. Took five days to get Sartauvoir's note, spawning and completing his fate constantly, and after 30 runs of Dalradia Lyon's Notes Part II are still nowhere to be seen. Must be made available through coin purchase or have drop rates increased! Please fix!!
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06-04-2021, 02:52 AMMahamon
Some CE FATE like From Beyond the Grave takes forever. I play all day today and nada. Not even once. It's RNG upon RNG. SE really wants to drag this content to November, don't they?
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06-04-2021, 03:06 AMDrWho2010
yes it is unacceptable that i don't have something that is supposed to be a "grind" after only 2 weeks of release. how dare they make it so difficult. how dare they give it to other people so easily but i don't get what i want right away!
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06-04-2021, 04:47 AMJason_Ashfordi have been actively playing in Bozja since it dropped. i am still missing 3 field notes. i have spent the last week and a half actively farming those skirmishes and CEs for several hours each day and i STILL haven't gotten even 1 of the last 3 that i've been searching for. If I can't get them when i've been playing nonstop for over a week, what about people who have maybe 2-3 hours a day to play before/after work? what may take me weeks to get, will take them months, if at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrWho2010
it is completely unacceptable to artificially inflate activity in something just to keep player numbers up during the next few months where we have little to no new content as they prepare for the next expansion. i would still actively play even if i already had gotten my last field notes because i enjoy levelling my alt classes in Bozja and Zadnor. However i am getting increasingly burnt out on it because im now actually working towards a seemingly endless task because no matter how much time i sink into it, i never get any closer to finishing and that frustration is killing my enjoyment of the activity, the same way it did with Eureka. I can't even go into Eureka anymore because i hate it *so* much even after they nerfed the absurd grind. No matter how easy it is now i just don't enjoy it because i got so frustrated with it and it is all i can think about when it's brought up.
So why don't you do us a favor and just be silent because your input is unwanted, especially when you're going to be such knob about it. -
06-04-2021, 05:23 AMJettinsonAttack of the Supersoldiers and Feel the Burn i knowQuote:
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06-06-2021, 01:46 PMjuicybug
I tried for Sartauvoir for a few months now and I still have not gotten his drop. It's a rare fate already- with an already ridiculous drop rate. Same with Lyon.
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06-06-2021, 06:49 PMJeeqbit
I got Sartauvoir twice in the last few days.
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06-08-2021, 02:08 AMXylira
This really does need to be looked at. The awful drop rate is encouraging people who have little to gain from Southern Bozjan Front to sit around and wait for skirmishes like Murder Death Kill, Of Absent Friends, and Of Steel and Flame to spawn just for a miniscule chance for the notes to drop. There's little else to do that's worth it while you wait for them to spawn because mettle gains are abysmally low, and if you move too far away from where they spawn you risk missing out on getting to the skirmishes on time. It's a terribly unfun gameplay loop sitting around waiting. Being able to buy the notes with coins would be a welcome alternative, at least then it would encourage people to do other things while in the zone.
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06-08-2021, 03:49 AMJeeqbit
I really believe that anything that isn't a 1 in 5 chance to drop should be buyable after a fixed grind. A 1 in 1,000,000 drop rate has never been fun in any MMO and in principle all such grinds should be fixed with a currency exchange of some form.
When it's a random chance to drop and you don't get it, it feels like you wasted your time. When you gain a currency you feel like you are at least making progress toward your goal. -
06-08-2021, 04:01 AMRufalus
I believe mmos should have rare items, but just don't make them untradeable. That way the marketplace has things worth buying and selling. Unlucky people can buy them if they want them that bad, and lucky people who get extra drops can make some good gil out of it.
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06-08-2021, 04:13 AMJeeqbit
Buying with gil doesn't feel satisfying. I did it for the Copycat Bulb, but it felt like I was cheating and every day I spent grinding was a complete waste.
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06-12-2021, 02:33 AMhollowjf
Menenius part 2
Note 45
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06-13-2021, 09:42 AMTracewood
I feel like the RNG is as bad as getting an EX whistle on release. I'm on 11 in Bozja, supposedly not as rare as the other two but after what seems like 30+ kills there's no drop. I guess I need to be in the upper 50s like many others before it drops.
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06-13-2021, 10:14 AMDrWho2010
can only hope that the last couple patches increases drop rate just like EX mount drop rates get increases too.
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06-15-2021, 12:31 PMJahoosafer
It's disheartening you can go an entire lockout without seeing FAF spawn. If all you're there for are Field Notes, it feels awful to spend time prepping fates with no reward. I can't even go into Castrum, to reup on a chance for bloodsucker essence, because I've missed an FAF spawn doing so. So many of us are spending hours prepping for this fate with no reward. Also, MDK is the same. I've done this fate a couple dozen times over the past week and we aren't getting anything from it.
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06-15-2021, 12:38 PMblahpy
I'm pretty sure the intention with the rare ones is that you do the duels for a 100% chance to get them.
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06-15-2021, 12:52 PMJahoosafer
The duel is locked behind FAF.
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06-16-2021, 02:07 PMKrym_Anuhart
To any developers reading this do not increase the drop rate. The system you have setup to keep the zone active as long as possible and making a nice mount difficult to get is working great.
If you can't get the field notes like Dabog or Sart or Lyon II the easy way with a low drop chance....do the duels and get it guaranteed.
You have more than one way to get some of these notes. Choose your method and stop whining.
I tried getting Dabog/Sart through skirmishes for a week and switched to the duels as I got tired of hoping for RNG. Took a few tries but I'm done with those 2.
All I need now is Lyon II and I can tell you I am not looking forward to that duel.
So, multi-task while trying to get what you need.
I am farming The Dalriada to get Raw Emotions for my different job weapons as well as maxing out my Resistance Honors.
If I don't get the drop by the time I finish with those 2 goals I am opting for the duel.
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06-20-2021, 11:04 PMJason_Ashfordno it actually isn't. trying to artificially inflate activity in Bozja/Zadnor with abysmal drop rates does nothing but drive anyone but the most dedicated players away. most casuals will simply forget about it and stop playing. you keep talking about duels as if those are the only ones players are having trouble with, or that some people have any interest in fight a boss 1v1. i have spent 2 weeks of near nonstop playing looking for Dyunbu's field notes and STILL haven't gotten them. i havent even started Zadnor yet and i already know there are a number who are just as troublesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krym_Anuhart
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06-21-2021, 12:57 AMAxxion
one thing they could do is allow players to use the coins and/or clusters to give you a increase chance of obtaining them a bit more easier.