How long does it take to remove a BOT

I reported an BOT yesterday twice porting around to mining nodes and the same player is at the same spot(s) this afternoon and reported them again.

Why does it take so long to remove these cheaters?

it takes them forever basically

for SE to be able to do anything there has to be a log of the person saying "I'm a bot" or "I'm botting" to do anything about it

Do they ban as they get them (or they prove they are a bot) or do they do a single ban wave once a week just before they send out that ban stats every Thursday morning?

Generally they’re banned in waves in an attempt to follow the gil/items and hit more bots in the process.

unless it is a RMT advertiser or a bot yelling about cheap gil in major cities... dont hold your breath.

FF XIV is considered a "bot friendly game"

you can translate it how you wish, but to all intents and purposes, if you see a bot, chances are, in 6 months or more you can run into it again. SE does not punish outright cheaters unless they are fairly stupid

Am I the only person who doesn't get mad over bots?, I'm not for them or against them, I just don't care bout them.

I know they affect crafters so I get their reasons, but I just laugh when I see the same group of midlander blms in low lvl robes appear at the immortal flames gc.

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Originally Posted by Fenril7

Why does it take so long to remove these cheaters?

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The GMs don't care about bots. But you could try creating a mass-reporting linkshell and work to entrap them.

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Originally Posted by Shibi

The GMs don't care about bots. But you could try creating a mass-reporting linkshell and work to entrap them.

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I don't like your chance with that either. When they added Ixal dailies the whole zone would report the bots spirit bonding. They didn't disappear until 3.0. People just gave up and MPKed them or messed with them some other way when they were bored.

If you mean a bot yelling “buy my Gil on this website!” Then it shouldn’t be too long, although they’ll be immediately replaced by another.

If you mean another player botting, they won’t be. I’ve seen a player who bots gathering since HW and still does it now. Unless they openly admit they’re a bot in the chat, GMs don’t care.

My experience with gather bots is they're very hard to get banned. They're really easy to spot and I know I've personally reported them many times. I can only remember being successful with one on Gilgamesh but that sure didn't stop the horde of others. I can only suspect it's gotten a lot worse given i haven't been into gather/sell for awhile.

If it's openly cheating using hacks, they'll usually get banned within the week.

If it's a more typical bot that's just running 24/7 and constantly following the same path/sequence of actions, they almost never actually get removed.

Whatever "methods" they use to detect bots seriously need some refinement if not even those parties of treasure map bots doing conga lines across Norvrandt are obvious enough to be banned.

Unfortunately gather bots are apart of the economy now and if they were to kill every one of them, they would have to go and rebalance all of the crafting. So yea… they’re not going anywhere.

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Originally Posted by Hyperia

Unfortunately gather bots are apart of the economy now and if they were to kill every one of them, they would have to go and rebalance all of the crafting. So yea… they’re not going anywhere.

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That is really not the case. If there's enough of a market, people will go out and gather their own materials to sell or use for themselves.

The economy is not going to explode if the bots disappear. Rather, players will see an opportunity to make money and take advantage of it. The main reason they even "rely" on bots is because they basically own all of the mainstream markets by resorting to overstocking and/or aggressive, automated undercutting that makes it difficult for legit players to get anything sell. They also thrive on the fact that they are not actually playing the game, and thus they can comfortably sell things at prices much lower then actual players would be okay with as they don't feel a need to factor in a labor/time cost into their pricing.

even if they ban a bot two more will take their place their like Hydra ;)

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

unless it is a RMT advertiser or a bot yelling about cheap gil in major cities... dont hold your breath.

FF XIV is considered a "bot friendly game"

you can translate it how you wish, but to all intents and purposes, if you see a bot, chances are, in 6 months or more you can run into it again. SE does not punish outright cheaters unless they are fairly stupid

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Or chargebacks (which results in the list that makes gullible people think they're doing a banger job at 'banning' bots). But otherwise, yeah, 6~12 months in and the same bots farming/gathering stuff are around, same bot ring FC leaders doing whatever they want with the market, etc.

Never.

A normal player doesn't break and stand on the spot mounting and dismounting on loop for half an hour ...twice, but the gatherer who I caught doing exactly that and reported is still there 8 months later doing almost 24/7 on timed nodes.

I can only assume that all of the level 80 bots are "legit" and actually paid for Shadowbringers and/or a level/story skip to not have been banned for so long, which would mean they're actually pulling in enough RMT sales to support their sub fees and other expenses.

Which further makes me think SE needs to put more emphasis on punishing the buyers then going after the ones generating the gil, because you can never truly solve that problem as long as those slash and burn ARR gil farmers exist. You can, however, scare people into not wanting buy gil in the first place.