How many weeks do we need to keep doing the Nier weekly quest?

Does anyone know when this finally wraps up? Grabbing two arbitrary things in the zones just to get an email/recording is honestly pretty meh. Is this leading up to some big finale?

I'm guessing we will get a conclusion with 5.55.

Hoping they add rewards in 5.55 as a concluding event.

I'm just sitting back and waiting to see when people hit the end of it.

The dull story and abrupt ending of the main quest has killed what little interest I had in engaging with this crossover. Unless it pulls some kind of mindblowing final trick, I'm done with it.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I'm just sitting back and waiting to see when people hit the end of it.

The dull story and abrupt ending of the main quest has killed what little interest I had in engaging with this crossover. Unless it pulls some kind of mindblowing final trick, I'm done with it.

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I feel that. I hate complaining about the crossover because Automata is one of my favorite games of all time, but this feels like it's going out w/ a whimper rather than a bang.

Honestly even if the ending to the weekly chain turns out to be mind blowing it's not going to undo how lackluster the actual story throughout the expansion itself was. I'm still doing the weeklies because they don't take very long and I'm a big automata fan but I'm not holding my breath on a satisfying ending.

Wow, I completely forgot about it. The story was just that intriguing lol

I'm doing the weeklies to see what the end is, but...
Man, it's boring. I get it, your Dwarf friend has anger issues that hides something else, can we move on?

I enjoyed the Nier raid. The story wasn't the deepest, though I still liked it more than the Eden storyline or the contrived plot steps tread in order to keep a certain character alive in 5.3.

We may or may not get a continuation of the Nier story in the upcoming patch. Even if we don't, though, I don't think it was without redeeming qualities.

Is it 6 or 7 weekly quests I believe. I do believe they are pretty bland. They would be more engaging if you actually fought something. Maybe have you fight something in the end.

I feel like the Nier raid is lot more relevant for the Nier-Drakengard lore since Taro himself says they are canon.

Not sure if FFXIV will use Nier stuff in the future. I'm curious how they'll implement it if they do

The crossover in general I've enjoyed, though it's not perfect. But the actual nier side of the story has been really meh at best. I like some of the dwarf stuff in the story though.

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Originally Posted by myahele

I feel like the Nier raid is lot more relevant for the Nier-Drakengard lore since Taro himself says they are canon.

Not sure if FFXIV will use Nier stuff in the future.

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Do you have a source on him saying they're canon to Nier/Drakengard?

As for FFXIV it seems unlikely it'll get brought up again, it only affected one isolated dwarf village on the First.

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Originally Posted by Bright-Flower

The crossover in general I've enjoyed, though it's not perfect. But the actual nier side of the story has been really meh at best. I like some of the dwarf stuff in the story though.



Do you have a source on him saying they're canon to Nier/Drakengard?

As for FFXIV it seems unlikely it'll get brought up again, it only affected one isolated dwarf village on the First.

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Taro has been infamous for making everything he's been involved with canon. This includes novels and Japanese-only stage plays, which have important info for Drakengard and Nier. Automata, in particular, has had a handful of stage plays vital to the story, like how YoRHa was created and the first versions of 2B and 9S. Not only that, but SinOAlice is also canon and Nier Reincarnation is deemed Automata's "sequel."

Can't remember how many dwarves were in the cave looking for someone to blame in the first place, but feels like two weeks per dwarf.... so however long that will be. 16 weeks?

5 dwarves + Glagg. We're on week5, and have 2.5 dwarves on our side now. Presumably 5 more weeks, plus possibly a finale.

I just hope we get a reward at the end. Maybe another music roll, or one of those fancy flying mounts used by 2B and 9S. Even a pod mount would be acceptable, really.

I was happy to help the dwarves, considering the festival and everything.

But all these weeks and... nothing happens. Why even bother putting it on the game?

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Originally Posted by Jennah

5 dwarves + Glagg. We're on week5, and have 2.5 dwarves on our side now. Presumably 5 more weeks, plus possibly a finale.

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Were there only 5? I thought there were more than that.

The quests are blue, so they've got to unlock ... something.
R-right?

Even if it's just a cruddy emote.

Some part of me is thinking maybe it'll lead to a Trial fight, or a new quest that if active, will replace the two boring robot trash before the final boss in Breach.

Like Odin, Proto-Ultima and "Yojimbo."

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Originally Posted by Rofel

But all these weeks and... nothing happens. Why even bother putting it on the game?

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I suspect, as well as with the Warring Triad/Role quest epilogue, that they are planning to lock a piece of Endwalker content behind Dark Apocalypse just as Bozja was locked behind the Ivalice raids.

I think it'll finsh once 5.5 part 2 happens or a week before it.
Could be wrong since the dwarfes are still few but i would be surprised if they keep dragging Glagg's totally malfunctioning self for eternity

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Originally Posted by Jettinson

I think it'll finsh once 5.5 part 2 happens or a week before it.
Could be wrong since the dwarfes are still few but i would be surprised if they keep dragging Glagg's totally malfunctioning self for eternity

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Plot twist:

He's actually a malfunctioning android himself. :p
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Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

I suspect, as well as with the Warring Triad/Role quest epilogue, that they are planning to lock a piece of Endwalker content behind Dark Apocalypse just as Bozja was locked behind the Ivalice raids.

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Seems unlikely to me with the Nier raids being a a seemingly over and done crossover on the First only affecting one dwarf village.

This is probably just a reference to how you had to beat Nier over and over to get all the endings or something, there was a lot of grindy fetch quest side quests and gameplay repetition in the Nier games.

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Originally Posted by Bright-Flower

Seems unlikely to me with the Nier raids being a a seemingly over and done crossover on the First only affecting one dwarf village.

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Unlike a lot of content in the duty finder, Alliance Raids tend to take excessive long periods of time to complete in later expacs unless other content is locked behind them.

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This is probably just a reference to how you had to beat Nier over and over to get all the endings or something, there was a lot of grindy fetch quest side quests and gameplay repetition in the Nier games.

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But they don't actually require you to run through all 3 Alliance Raids each week to progress the story. You can pop to the village each week do the quest and be done without queuing for any of the 3 raids.

They just seem very pointless. I wasn’t expecting much from a weekly quest, but some variety would have been nice.

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Originally Posted by myahele

I feel like the Nier raid is lot more relevant for the Nier-Drakengard lore since Taro himself says they are canon.

Not sure if FFXIV will use Nier stuff in the future. I'm curious how they'll implement it if they do

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Which is unfortunate since they said you wouldn’t need to play nier to understand the story. But idk wtf any of the significance of any of these bosses or things is or what the big orbs imply since i haven’t played nier so i’m just like um. I just wanted 9s gear, where is it.

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Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

I suspect, as well as with the Warring Triad/Role quest epilogue, that they are planning to lock a piece of Endwalker content behind Dark Apocalypse just as Bozja was locked behind the Ivalice raids.

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It's unlikely it would be locked behind doing the weeklies if it does happen. Players only had to do CT and Ivalice once to unlock the later content.

If I have to keep repeating this a dozen times to do future content, I just won't be doing that future content. If that future content turns out to MSQ, then I'm done with the game.

Once should be more than enough.

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

Which is unfortunate since they said you wouldn’t need to play nier to understand the story. But idk wtf any of the significance of any of these bosses or things is or what the big orbs imply since i haven’t played nier so i’m just like um. I just wanted 9s gear, where is it.

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There was story in that somewhere?

So I completely forgot that there was even a weekly quest to do. Just a tiny bit behind now, but cheers on the reminder!


And a bit off topic, but does anyone know if there is an orchestrion roll for the song that plays in Komra? My Google-fu is only brining up the generic zone music and the super-peppy dwarf music used elsewhere. :(

My hope pre-5.5 is that we'd get a weekly akin to the proto-ultima one in HW that gave tokens we could buy stuff that didn't fit into the normal alliance raid reward scheme, like a flight unit mount and weapon glams. I have a slim hope that we may get such a thing in 5.55 for those who are done with current weeklies but I won't be surprised if this is it.

I was enjoying the story when I thought it was leading to a big finale after the third raid that would hit hard like parts of Automata did. But now that it's kinda fizzled out into these weeklies I find it hard to believe the eventual end won't feel anti-climactic (post Tower cutscenes certain did after the spectacle of that raid).

The raids were great, they felt fun and hit a lot if nostalgia for me, but the story has been disappointing.

I haven't done a single week of this quest as I've never heard of it. So nobody actually needs to do this, I'd say.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

I haven't done a single week of this quest as I've never heard of. So nobody actually needs to do this, I'd say.

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I keep hoping there will some rewards at the end of the quest line. They are all pretty quick and somewhat repetitive right now.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I'm just sitting back and waiting to see when people hit the end of it.

The dull story and abrupt ending of the main quest has killed what little interest I had in engaging with this crossover. Unless it pulls some kind of mindblowing final trick, I'm done with it.

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I've literally reached the point of skimming through the text. I just can't care about the story. It's so incredibly lackluster and these vague weekly quests feel artificially tacked on just to pad it out even longer.

It's unfortunate as I actually do enjoy the little story that has been developing through the extra quests.. but the quests themselves are some of the blandest and more boring content in the entire game. I guess I don't know how it's going to end but at least what I've seen so far could have and should have been done in a single quest. There doesn't even need to be combat, just have something more interesting than going back into the raid instances again and again and again, and interacting with random sparkly things. Knowing Yoko Taro maybe he's trying to make some sort of meta commentary on the state of MMO sidequests and a players willingness to blindly do them repeatedly just in the hope of some potential impermanent reward.. but I highly doubt it.

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Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

I've literally reached the point of skimming through the text. I just can't care about the story. It's so incredibly lackluster and these vague weekly quests feel artificially tacked on just to pad it out even longer.

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This week there wasn't even much to read.

Dwarf 1: "Oh, that guy? Yeah, he's being a jerk. Oh well. Go capture a metal frog for me. Nice job! I totally saw you from here! Go see the chief!"

Chief: "Lali-I'm-here-to-waste-your-time-ho! Yeah, that guy is still a jerk by the way. See you next week! Oh, and you got another email. Kbye!"

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Originally Posted by StriderShinryu

Knowing Yoko Taro maybe he's trying to make some sort of meta commentary on the state of MMO sidequests and a players willingness to blindly do them repeatedly just in the hope of some potential impermanent reward.. but I highly doubt it.

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I don't know him beyond the FFXIV-related interviews he's given but I wouldn't be at all surprised. He seems so dismissive of the whole thing and willing to troll the players.

I will not be surprised if this deliberately leads to nothing.

*Spoilers for anyone that actually cares about this stuff*




In regards to the Dwarf that's behaving erratically and accusing the others of scheming behind his back to take leadership from him and kick him out of the village, it is heavily implied that he is suffering from Red Eye Disease, which causes the afflicted to become irrational and violent, as seen by his previous outbursts. It is also capable of spreading to others, and is potentially linked to the Logic Virus seen in Nier Automata that is capable of infecting both Machines and Androids.

Said disease made its first appearance in Drakengard 1, wherein the vast majority of the antagonists were characterized by their glowing red eyes and berserk nature, most notably the main protagonist's best friend who attacked him without hesitation once he succumbed to its effects. Red Eye Disease also functions as a form of possession from the Watchers, godly beings that wanted to destroy all of humanity.

So basically, the Dwarf has more or less become a ticking time-bomb that could potentially cause yet another end of the world scenario for the First after they've barely begun to recover from the Flood of Light.

Interesting stuff really, but it's marred by the fact that you'd have to have either played a few of the games in that series, or be willing to go on a massive lore binge to actually get any of these references.

I've just been doing it regardless
this week at least wasnt walk through the raid and pick up same stuff again.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

I just hope we get a reward at the end.

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I actually hope we don't, or at least it's something I don't want. I'm finishing the quests with this character and then deleting it and going with another character to do Endwalker and I wasn't planning to do Yorha on that character, even if I did enjoy the series.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I will not be surprised if this deliberately leads to nothing.

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Same. I don't expect anything big, really. there was ONE big twist in Nier, the same one in Automata, and nothing suprising since in Yoko Taro's games. They can be convoluted, and trying too hard to be meaningful, but I don't think a big finale is planned. It could be the case and that might make the all story better, but I'm not expecting it.

I'm carefully reading each week's quests and I forget about them in the next 5 minutes. While I appreciate weekly content to expand on something, these quests are not a good example.