Bozja Buff suggestion/idea for lower lvls

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Originally Posted by EnigmaticDodo

I think Bozja has some fun ideas and fights, but it's locked behind a slog of grinding.

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You can do bozja in a day. That's a massive "improvement" over eureka, if you view it being faster as an improvement. Yet, a day isn't good enough and you would like it to be faster. What if it were a holiday event quest that takes an hour? :rolleyes:

The only ranks that involve a lot of grinding are the higher ones (about 10-15), which are optional ranks not required to do the large-scale CE.

Bozja isn't even that hard of a grind to begin with. It's not perfect, but Mettle grinding is the least tedious activity in there and, in my opinion, a non issue.

Maybe if mettle actually contributed to anything. Honestly kinda feels fairly arbitrary, simply acts as a gating mechanism. At least in Eureka, leveling up meant actually getting stronger.

Guess we will need it to access the next Bojan zone coming soon otherwise it really would be a useless concept.

The real issue with lower levels is that you don't have access to the teleports and your mount is slower, wich makes it hard to reach the Fates in time before the higher leveled players have already finished it. The amount of mettle you need is fine.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

You can do bozja in a day. That's a massive "improvement" over eureka, if you view it being faster as an improvement. Yet, a day isn't good enough and you would like it to be faster. What if it were a holiday event quest that takes an hour? :rolleyes:

The only ranks that involve a lot of grinding are the higher ones (about 10-15), which are optional ranks not required to do the large-scale CE.

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Except weapon progress is blocked by an alliance raid which stops you a lot more effectively than anything in Eureka.

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Originally Posted by Tint

The real issue with lower levels is that you don't have access to the teleports and your mount is slower, wich makes it hard to reach the Fates in time before the higher leveled players have already finished it. The amount of mettle you need is fine.

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You mean there's more to Bozja than CEs??? /s

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Originally Posted by Erendis

Except weapon progress is blocked by an alliance raid which stops you a lot more effectively than anything in Eureka.

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I have the 515 weapon and don't recall doing a single alliance raid. What step was this?

The only thing that could be classed as an alliance raid was DR, but that's easy to queue and not really a block.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

The only ranks that involve a lot of grinding are the higher ones (about 10-15), which are optional ranks not required to do the large-scale CE.

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I believe they said something about needing to be rank 15 for the next area coming out for Bozja. So they're not exactly optional? But they are easy to breeze through, more so with friends

Faster pace to reach the roadblock? I can already see one thing that’s going to happen: CLL & DRn full of essence-less & poor man’s Shell/Protect lost actions.

So how about we get those instead: some sort of starter pack, better than the ones we have? As it stands now, essences can incredibly ease the pain of our excursion in BSF but having problems mainly by their acquisition and consumption. Lost Actions are additional tools but they can also help, just not as immense as essences. Lower level players often suffer more for not having these ‘luxuries’, even though they're frankly not even hard to farm because there are always groups wanting to farm for the fragments (hint: also lack the initiative to even start their own group). They can burn through these starter pack and farm the rest themselves after as they see fit. Few examples of low lv frag farming are the Nepenthes we see right outside the base. They drop the very basic but useful essences at very generous amount, and is also -not- a Rank III or higher mob. If these aren't even easy enough then I honestly don't know what else will help said players.

Let's not stop right there either.
Cleared CLL? Cleared DRn? Please at least guarantee fragment drops (DRn) or incentivize the use of essences. Needing 15 runs of DRn will dry our supply of essences sooner than you'd think. Encourage these players to use the essences so that we'll improve everybody's experience through the relic farming, not punish them. Heck, throw in a vendor that sells the -very basic- essences and things like phoenix down & resistance potions if you will to at least trade those pesky coins (or you know what? Just make them available from beginning of BSF to trade w/ another currency that's not Bozjan Cluster, but I wonder if that will trivialize the content too much).

Leveling is not an issue. It gives you nothing but accessibility to continue the questline. I'd rather see the game prepare us well to deal with the roadblock as we level (like how our MSQ gives us FREE upgrade gears) than to powerlevel us too fast to even farm enough tools to help us in said roadblocks, and then "BoOhOo ThIs ToO hArD nErF pLz!!"

Buddy, they had trouble getting people to use materia even when they made it rain from the sky for the past 2 expansions. You could literally give people 100000 essences for free and they'd rationalize that it's better to vendor them for their glam glams than use them. "yOu dOnT nEeD EsSencEs lol"

They'll either have to nerf CLL/DR or add alternatives to go around the content all together. I suppose they could add some decent hard enrages so people either use the tools given to them or fail but I suspect they don't want to alienate all the leeches.

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Originally Posted by hobostew

Buddy, they had trouble getting people to use materia even when they made it rain from the sky for the past 2 expansions. You could literally give people 100000 essences for free and they'd rationalize that it's better to vendor them for their glam glams than use them. "yOu dOnT nEeD EsSencEs lol"

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You are not wrong there, bud. However, there's also another syndrome that plagues these players: x99 Elixir syndrome. Unless we're specifically farming for said fragments, the game return us very little to no fragments at all. To add in the insult, the nature of RNG means said fragments probably won't give the ones we want either. As it is now, too many factors discourages players from using those tools.

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

You are not wrong there, bud. However, there's also another syndrome that plagues these players: x99 Elixir syndrome. Unless we're specifically farming for said fragments, the game return us very little to no fragments at all. To add in the insult, the nature of RNG means said fragments probably won't give the ones we want either. As it is now, too many factors discourages players from using those tools.

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I actually got a lot of fragments while doing my 15 nDRs for the relic... at rank 10 (was rank 13 by the end of it). To use these fragments I needed to be rank 15. Thankfully, I had a small stockpile of essences and just swapped jobs as they ran out, but why do only rank 15 fragments drop? If you let us in that early then the drops should be to our rank.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

I have the 515 weapon and don't recall doing a single alliance raid. What step was this?

The only thing that could be classed as an alliance raid was DR, but that's easy to queue and not really a block.

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You can't queue for CLL. Must have been horrible since you deleted it from your memory ;)

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

You can do bozja in a day. That's a massive "improvement" over eureka, if you view it being faster as an improvement. Yet, a day isn't good enough and you would like it to be faster. What if it were a holiday event quest that takes an hour? :rolleyes:

The only ranks that involve a lot of grinding are the higher ones (about 10-15), which are optional ranks not required to do the large-scale CE.

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I started Bozja recently aka late after seeing the new area we get later this month, and playing about 8 hours/day[split within the day due to responsibilities] im Rank 12 and i could have been 15 if i didnt stop xD
I feel like its quite fast, i didnt even reach the 2nd eureka area with the SB relic content /sweat