Trust Wishlist

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What is your trust wishlist? Character / job?

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The biggest role missing (imo) from the trusts is a fast ranged class (bard / dancer / machinist). Lyna was great, but we lost her after only 1 dungeon. I really wanted her to somehow be a permanent member, but storywise I get why she couldn't. We also lost our ninja (Ryne) since she's stuck on the first.

(I haven't played the latest patch, so I don't know anything going on with these characters)

Fordola - paladin
Arenvald - anything (probably paladin)

I don't care what those 2 play as, I just really liked their characters during stormblood and I think it would be so cool to dungeon dive with them in my party. I think listening to them bicker would be great.

Cid - machinist
Yugiri - ninja
Flhamin - bard
Hozan - ninja
Aymeric - white mage / sage
Hilda ware - machinist
Magnai - warrior
Sadu - black mage

Ryne wasn't a Ninja. And Ser Aymeric uses a Sword. And Flhamin can't fight. Anyways:

Fordola, Yugiri, Sadu, Hilda, Gosetsu, and everyone from the ninja questline.

Right, Ryne is basically a ROG (although her special Trust class was called 'Oracle of Light', it used the ROG class symbol). And you're right, Aymeric is a PLD through and through (although he'd be the Ishgardian version, not the Ul'dahn version that the player has).

As for F'lhaminn, she was once called the 'Songstress of Ul'dah' (she was renowned for her singing and dancing), and her involvement in the DNC Job quests, DNC would be a good fit for her (ignore the frumpy dress she wears now and her misdirecting grandmotherly charms, she has a resolve of steel and a temperment to match and could, figureatively at least, break you like an icepick - this was the woman who used to match wits with Thancred after all ;)).

Thancred was also a bard, initially, though not of the combat variety. Funnily, the Scions lack of a designated ranger was partly why I started playing machinist. It just... looks better to me to have everyone with different weapons. It’s almost a pet-peeve.

I'm a big Fordola sucker, so I'd go with Fordola.

I know she doesn't seems appreciated, most of my friends don't.

Since EW will march to Garlemald, I would expect Gaius to be the "guide character" like how Lyse narrated Stormblood or Ardbert did Shadowbringers.
But in an interview, Yoshida mentionned that Gaius would have a role but not a big one. So I doubt he'll be a Trust.

Also for trusts, I'd like for them to buff their damage. I found out that it was better to let them do the job each pull and AFK or something, because they'd simply use their overpowered actions.
A dungeon would take 25 minutes with trusts while helping them as a tank, 30 doing nothing except for mini bosses.

Trailers point to Emet-Selch being our new narrator. Tricky to catch in English trailers as it seems to be a different actor, but it’s Emet’s VO in other languages narrating the Endwalker trailer.

I think Fordola’s getting promoted, too, but I expect her to tank as a Gladiator and G’raha remaining the all rounder unless she takes up the new melee job.

I wish they would give Krile more actual screentime and add her to the trust system, as some sort of White Mage of course.

Not having to level them.

I’m happy to see fellow Fordola appreciators in here. I would like her in Trusts as well.

Aside from Fordola, I would like Sadu and Magnai. I think they could have some pretty fun interactions, and I never get tired of their dynamic.

GIOTT or RIOTT

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Would be cool to get new members but would not want to level them all. :)

Secret trust characters could be cool, do some side quests in Amaurot - gain shade of Emet. I'd take him lol.

I'd also enjoy having access to Raubahn, Gaius, or Estinien. My chocobo companion would be another neat one.

Adding more to the trust system itself, greater characteristics and differences, as well as perhaps customization (rather than just levels it might be like earning talents to increase their power)- perhaps alternatively to levels is this new customization of power (sort of a merit talent system, so you can make them better and faster, smarter, but you don't have to baby sit each one to make them useable in later content, you might take 2 super charged trust members to help you level your third in higher exp value content).

Adding aswell chono trigger-esq / FFXV link attack moments could be fun. Meeting certain requirements you get a quick action (those abilities that take up their own slot, like when you have the sword or shield in the Ivalice raid)- sort of baby 'teamwork' LBs.

Aren't the Trusts companions supposed to be story characters that travel with you?
Not trying to rain on any parades here, but a lot of ideas being thrown around and I'm not sure how some of these NPC's would be able to join us in even just the ShB duties. I'd be pretty confused to see a lot of the proposed NPCs showing up to fight with me in, say, Pagl'than and/or The Twining...

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Originally Posted by ItMe

Aren't the Trusts companions supposed to be story characters that travel with you?
Not trying to rain on any parades here, but a lot of ideas being thrown around and I'm not sure how some of these NPC's would be able to join us in even just the ShB duties. I'd be pretty confused to see a lot of the proposed NPCs showing up to fight with me in, say, Pagl'than and/or The Twining...

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Honestly that is how I thought of them before the system came out, but then magically you've got 24/7 access to them like they've nothing better to do ever (thinking post story particularly, they, SE, does actually lock them as story makes sense the first time round).

It was why I thought, to make a throughline, we might keep using our squadrons but the trusts would be like OP limited use options (maybe can only use them once a day or something but they stronk). Rather, now that they are, basically, on call whenever we feel it- I feel less like "aww I can't ask for them because lore" lol. "You belong to me!" >: D

Also you could always pull the stuff FFXI did (you've these friend crystals, so it's not quite calling 'the person'). Which I was referencing with Emet, since it'd work better that way (rather than calling actual him... also helps with balance excuse so you're not expecting him to just go Hades mode and wreck everything).

Haurchefant for HW dungeons. He has to be using a lvl 1 shield, though.

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Originally Posted by WoW

Haurchefant for HW dungeons. He has to be using a lvl 1 shield, though.

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Support buffing character with -50 to piercing resistance, for balance reasons. .

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Originally Posted by Shougun

Honestly that is how I thought of them before the system came out, but then magically you've got 24/7 access to them like they've nothing better to do ever (thinking post story particularly, they, SE, does actually lock them as story makes sense the first time round).

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I mean... rerunning dungeons never made logical sense lol.
Are there more Sin Eaters that are somehow replacing the old bosses I've already beaten?
Did someone go put the pillars back up in The Aery?
I cannot fathom how many mother porxies I've made running and rerunning Matoya's Relict. Probably have one for every Kobold by this point.

I'd love Fordola as another tank. Probably not a 'paladin' just as Ryne wasn't a ninja but a sword and shield tank.

Put Graha back to using a bow for a ranged physical and then we're good.

I'd honestly rather not see a flood of new trusts, just a couple to fill in some gaps. A phsycial ranged dps and a second tank would be good for me.

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Originally Posted by CKNovel

I'm a big Fordola sucker, so I'd go with Fordola.

I know she doesn't seems appreciated, most of my friends don't.

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I dislike Fordola for what she did in Stormblood, but 5.5 has shown to me she is willing and ready for redemption, much like Gaius was for me with the Weapon storyline. Considering that the writing is now also there for it, I wouldn't mind her being around more.

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Originally Posted by ItMe

I mean... rerunning dungeons never made logical sense lol.
Are there more Sin Eaters that are somehow replacing the old bosses I've already beaten?
Did someone go put the pillars back up in The Aery?
I cannot fathom how many mother porxies I've made running and rerunning Matoya's Relict. Probably have one for every Kobold by this point.

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Hahaha absolutely, reruns make no sense- but it would be sad without it :P

So actually, going off that though- if you could unlock new trusts within a logical format the first time and you're not first time MSQing.. it should be ''okay'' right?

First time MSQ dungeons might have restrictions here and there for logic, but there after rerun of anything is just all in your head anyways-- you crazy crazy WoL you :D.

(basically do it right, with lore fitting roster first time, but there after, as long as they're not dead, .. 'whatever' lol). If they're dead 'you could' just pull a FFXI with some sort of Azem crystal magic, call a friend thing (or why I said "shade" of Emet, rather than himself. Perhaps Hythlodaeus grants memory of him pre-tempering).

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Originally Posted by Shougun

(basically do it right, with lore fitting roster first time, but there after, as long as they're not dead, .. 'whatever' lol).

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Sure.
I dont care about logical consistency in my reruns after all.
I'd be square with that.

Nero as a tank.

I've said this before, but I'd love it if Ryne returned as a Trust and brought Gaia with her, with the catch being they're both All-Rounders now.

As a DPS, Ryne could be the same as she is now, but upgraded with more abilities (Light-themed Ninjutsu, and other high level Ninja stuff). As a Tank, she could be a Gunbreaker with a dash of Paladin aesthetics. And as a Healer, she could be a Scholar with Eden Shiva (Light/Hydaelyn Form) as her fairy.

As for Gaia, she could be a darkness-themed Warrior as a Tank, a Summoner with Eden Shiva (Ice Form) as her Egi. And as for Healer... I don't know. Scholar is the only one we won't have going forward, what with Alphinaud switching to Sage. And unlike Ryne, there's no particular reason for her to follow in another character's footsteps even if it's redundant. But maybe a Zodiac-themed Astrologian would work.

My wish list:

- Regula van Hydrus
- Varis zos Galvus
- Fordola
- Arenvald
- Lahabrea
- Emet-Selch
- Elidibus

So many JRPG's have cool moments where you put aside differences with a sympathetic/honourable antagonist and fight alongside each other against some bigger threat. FFXIV, so far, is rather lacking on that particular front...but it need not be, assuming a decent explanation could be put forward.

We get to fight alongside Beatrix and Gabranth in FFIX and FFXII. We get to fight alongside Sydney at one point in Vagrant Story. Come on, FFXIV! :)

I’d like them to not reset the level this time. I used Trust a lot while I was slowly working through Shadowbringers then when they reset my level I did a couple of Holminster Switches then gave up. Haven’t touched it since.

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Originally Posted by MorionQ

Trailers point to Emet-Selch being our new narrator. Tricky to catch in English trailers as it seems to be a different actor, but it’s Emet’s VO in other languages narrating the Endwalker trailer.

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I don't see how that in itself points to anything besides some of the other languages re-hiring Emet's voice actor, especially if the English version is not the same person.

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Originally Posted by ItMe

Aren't the Trusts companions supposed to be story characters that travel with you?
Not trying to rain on any parades here, but a lot of ideas being thrown around and I'm not sure how some of these NPC's would be able to join us in even just the ShB duties. I'd be pretty confused to see a lot of the proposed NPCs showing up to fight with me in, say, Pagl'than and/or The Twining...

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Trusts have always been split into two concepts - scenario mode where you get whoever is rightfully with you at that point in the story, and the "avatars" that you need to manually level up. The frustrating bit is getting locked out of scenario mode from the time you reach the credits until you finish levelling the avatars.

My hope for 6.0 is that 70-80 trust EXP is buffed and the access to scenario mode remains at level 80 and not shifted up to 90.

Most likely any new trusts will be added starting at 80 like G'raha but will need levelling to 90 (snore).


Edit to add what was my original point for bringing up the split! The avatars aren't bound to scenario restrictions, so you can use any of them in any dungeon. Having the full group of Scions in Holminster is just as lore-breaking as Ryne being usable in Source dungeons. One way or another, they shouldn't be there at that time.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Trusts have always been split into two concepts - scenario mode where you get whoever is rightfully with you at that point in the story, and the "avatars" that you need to manually level up. The frustrating bit is getting locked out of scenario mode from the time you reach the credits until you finish levelling the avatars.

My hope for 6.0 is that 70-80 trust EXP is buffed and the access to scenario mode remains at level 80 and not shifted up to 90.

Most likely any new trusts will be added starting at 80 like G'raha but will need levelling to 90 (snore).

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What if rather than adding levels they added perks, almost akin to some stuff we have for squadrons but hopefully far more interesting. Like you have in a lot of Bioware games for your side buddies, or I guess more shallow but also in Diablo 3 and your companion (ignore the fact it relates to level... :D lol).

In that situation you can make them better, like perhaps seeing Break used, or a long cooldown shield save by Urianger (rather than dying you get shielded). It would be easier to 'level' up a new trust by using two other high powered trust members, and speed up the overall process and reduce restraints, but the first time round you need to empower them past their shinning story moment you might still go back to earlier dungeons first just to ease them in (but you could move them around more easily than before, and using two merited trusts could help). Say the first time, the story time, that they do dungeons they're invigorated with some sort of buff (like the one WoL often gets, but named differently for lore purposes).

I don't know which jobs Graha takes as allrounder, outside of PLD as tank, but ideally a Scion/Ally for each job. Like Lyse as MNK, Hien or a new ally as SAM, Yugiri as NIN, maybe Boulder as WAR? and so on. Or let us use the job trainers or fellow job npcs, like Aldyn or Sylphie, one of the NIN job npcs or one of the two cat girls from the MNK quests :3.

I appreciate the grounded approach to these lists, but just a reminder... it is a w.i.s.h.-list. Wish, as in, if we could have our way, not necessarily lore / logic friendly. Anyways ;)

Some of my faves I've seen so far - Emet-selch (yes, please!), Varis zos Galvus (thick boi incoming!), and not leveling them.

Please keep going! So many fun party make ups!

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Originally Posted by Moonsprite

If they add perks, my request is add “aoe” damage :)

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That would make people reaaalllyyy want to invest into their trust, while still removing some of the annoyance / hassle that is introduced with a strict leveling system.

Especially if there were a number of perks which could develope the flavor of the trust member (like bringing out a signature move you might associate them for as part of other MSQ moments, or just styling to their character concept).

How have they not added trusts yet to the cash shop? They are less an advantage then skip potions. And an easy 20/30 charge for people wanting X character hang out with them. Could add back the models from previous events like the Lightning and Shantoto they already have character models. Make them slow and yappy and watch the whales roll in.

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Originally Posted by Mahoukenshi

I don't know which jobs Graha takes as allrounder, outside of PLD as tank, but ideally a Scion/Ally for each job. Like Lyse as MNK, Hien or a new ally as SAM, Yugiri as NIN, maybe Boulder as WAR? and so on. Or let us use the job trainers or fellow job npcs, like Aldyn or Sylphie, one of the NIN job npcs or one of the two cat girls from the MNK quests :3.

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Graha's Jobs:
Tank - PLD
Healer - WHM
Dps - BLM

As for npcs I'd like to see:
K'rid Tia - As a master Arcanist I'm sure this aloof miqo'te could spice up the caster job.
Yugiri - Though I think she's bound to Hien upon Gosetsu's retirement she's been a stalwart ally since she came to us.
Papashan - One of the very rare good lalafells. He may be old and tied to the sultana but the Ul'dah starting storyline only showed us a small glimpse of him.
Midgardsormr - Just his little dragonling form as a healer like he was during the Omegascape series. A cute little dragonling is always a fun addition yes?
E-Sumi-Yan - A pipe dream I know, but given that he's one of the older Padjal he's a wealth of white magic that I'm sure would heed the elementals bidding him to action.
Beast Tribe Leaders - Given that relations between the city-states and the beastmen are very much on the mend for the better I'd say the scions would gladly welcome paragons of them into their ranks. Especially since the scions generally have a better understanding and more positive viewpoint of most of them.

I just wish we'd get at least one of each race as a trust or scion.
Which means, getting a male or female roe, a Viera and a Hrothgar.

Well we do have a roe, but he's a backseat character who rarely does anything.