Will G'raha Tia end up like Firian in Dissidia FF?

Like, ending up with a type of fighting style like his, I mean. I've been thinking about it today and I thought it'd be pretty fitting for the way he fights now. Except instead of using regular ol weapons found commonly around Eoreza, he could use Allagan technology in the shape of whatever weapons he prefers to use instead.

What do you all think?

Nah waste of creative resource tbh. I don't know who that guy is but if it's for trust or w/e just give them generic stone 2 or w/e.

He already has an established style (or rather styles) and I'm not sure why they'd go to the effort of inventing more - especially giving him a fully unique job that needs unique skills and animations designed for it.

G’raha’s unique quality of being versed in three weapons styles (gladiator, thaumaturge, and conjurer) is mostly explained in game by the fact he’s actually several centuries old and not because of his usage of job stones, like us. His role as a trust unit is just to fill in any role we need for that instance, thus his use of the default tank, caster, and healer options. I don’t think the devs would give him a class locked entirely to him since they need to recycle resources for characters used heavily. If G’raha got a unique combat style, it would be an enormous amount of work for something rather small in the grand scheme.

Meanwhile, Firion’s many weapon conbat style is actually a callback to how combat and experience worked in FF2, which was based on, if I recall, swapping around everyone’s gear to raise certain stats bit by bit. (They never used that set up again because of how cumbersome it was!)

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Originally Posted by MPK

I don't know who that guy is but if it's for trust or w/e just give them generic stone 2 or w/e.

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It's that annoying catboy that some have a crush on. They should have kept him locked in the crystal tower.

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Originally Posted by MorionQ

Meanwhile, Firion’s many weapon conbat style is actually a callback to how combat and experience worked in FF2, which was based on, if I recall, swapping around everyone’s gear to raise certain stats bit by bit. (They never used that set up again because of how cumbersome it was!)

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And in Dissidia (the first one) it was to reference the other playable characters. He uses Guy's Axe, Maria's Bow, Minwu's Shield, Leila's Daggers, and I think the lance is Ricard's. Because in that game he was the only representative of FFII, much like how Onion Knight is a mash-up of several of the job classes since original 3 had generic Onion Kids instead of the named ones of the remake, and why WoL is a generic Knight with an original skillset.

On topic... yeah, G'raha is more of a "wild card" character so you can use him as whatever role is needed, so while in THEORY he can do any of GLA/CNJ/THM, in PRACTICE he's locked into one of the 3.

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Originally Posted by WhiteArchmage

On topic... yeah, G'raha is more of a "wild card" character so you can use him as whatever role is needed, so while in THEORY he can do any of GLA/CNJ/THM, in PRACTICE he's locked into one of the 3.

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It depends whether he's being used as a trust party member or in a solo battle instance. For trusts, he's locked into the chosen role. For solo instances, he'll use skills from all three classes - mostly the mages, but he'll use Cover as well.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

It depends whether he's being used as a trust party member or in a solo battle instance. For trusts, he's locked into the chosen role. For solo instances, he'll use skills from all three classes - mostly the mages, but he'll use Cover as well.

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That makes me think of him kind of like Y'shtola's current fighting style as a Sorceress. I just find it weird in Trusts that G'raha still uses the aether-made sword and shield like he did on the First. It reminds me if how Alisaie first used Red Mage by summoning an aether condensed rapier from her old book. That's what gave me the thought that he might end up like Firian in a way, eventually using many different types of weapons with a unique job class tailored to himself.


Though, now this is making me want a Firian based job class for players. Lol, I know it would probably be impossible to implement such a class for players, but a nerd can dream. xD

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Originally Posted by Soge01

I just find it weird in Trusts that G'raha still uses the aether-made sword and shield like he did on the First.

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It's no stranger than him using it to begin with. The physical weapon he carries with him is a mage staff; he uses his mage powers to conjure up (or perhaps transform it into) a sword and shield if necessary. But it really only exists for the purpose of trusts, not for something he would canonically use, or I would expect to at least sometimes see it in cutscenes and solo duties.

I'm reminded of his line of "I may be no warrior but I've learned to hold my own over the years." When he went into the tower he was primarily an archer, I'm sure he had an understanding of some other fighting styles, but that was how he defended himself. By the time you encounter him again as the Exarch, he's an old man and he's been through a lot, from his stories and dialogue the one thing he's been trying to do all this time is fit in, play what ever role that was needed of him. I know he was an omni-trust there for gameplay but I like how it fits the man he became, he's learned many tricks over the years and had likely had to fight in all manner of ways so he's flexible, with the tower backing him up he could pull off many a manner of abilities others couldn't, while he's lost the tower, he still recalls all that, so he can still fight in different styles. I'm not sure if they'll develop that any more, the scions are their own breed when it comes to their jobs, some more than others like with Alph and his endless Carby's or Y'shtola deciding she wants all the schools of magic. He is using his younger body, one that until now wasn't casting spells, he points out just how exhausting he finds doing magic, perhaps once he's more used to it he'll start using other spells or forms, who knows.

There is actually some missable dialogue from G’raha right after he joins the Scions in which he states that without the tower, his aether usage is harder to perform, but he still feels more useful with those skills than returning to being an archer. Also, apparently the most annoying side effect of his unlinking from the tower is how hungry he is all the time.