Another/Alternative use for Alliance Raid Coins

i think it would be a good idea if the alliance raid coins could be used to buy a coffer from an npc to get a specific gear piece that they want. make it cost like 3 or 5 coins so it's not a one and done and people never run it again. this is in addition to their current purpose to buy twine/ester/etc for tomestone gear.

Worst part is... the old alliance raid coins can't be traded in anymore. They flat out took out the ability to trade them to npcs.

https://i.imgur.com/NwPqM9g.png

They even changed the item description to say they are worthless.

https://i.imgur.com/owEE0NK.png

Go a head and look them all up, they are all have no use any longer.
A big slap in the face to anyone who saved them from previous tiers.
There use to be a couple Orchestrion songs and other stuff you could buy with them... not anymore.

I didn't even realise we couldn't use them anymore. I suppose it makes sense because they were used to buy gear augmentations, and the gear is already augmented now.

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Originally Posted by grinkdaboy

i think it would be a good idea if the alliance raid coins could be used to buy a coffer from an npc to get a specific gear piece that they want. make it cost like 3 or 5 coins so it's not a one and done and people never run it again. this is in addition to their current purpose to buy twine/ester/etc for tomestone gear.

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I'd be fine with this. It's really frustrating when you're trying to finish a set and just need one or two specific pieces and then have some bad luck getting it to freaking drop. And then unless you're a tank, potentially having competition to get the thing once it DOES drop.

One coin per piece may be too generous but 3-5 could be nice.

I'd really like these coins to be put in the currency tab. Once they stop being useful, the server just rolls them to 0 (or lets you trade in like old tomestones).

A lot of us just attach emotionally to these useless currencies. If you fought hard to beat a fight when it released and earned it, it's hard to just toss it away even though it's useless. It's like a trophy.

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Originally Posted by LisSquid

I'd really like these coins to be put in the currency tab. Once they stop being useful, the server just rolls them to 0 (or lets you trade in like old tomestones).

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I could see that going forward into new expansions.

Coin 1
Coin 2
Coin 3

New expansion? Reset coins, the old rewards are now there via poetics.

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Originally Posted by Bright-Flower

I could see that going forward into new expansions.

Coin 1
Coin 2
Coin 3

New expansion? Reset coins, the old rewards are now there via poetics.

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But wouldn't that allow you to stockpile coins so you'd never need to do future raids?

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Originally Posted by ItMe

But wouldn't that allow you to stockpile coins so you'd never need to do future raids?

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That's what the 'reset coins' part is for.

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Originally Posted by ItMe

But wouldn't that allow you to stockpile coins so you'd never need to do future raids?

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They don't let you hold onto expired tomes, so no.

Lol I misunderstood.
Thanks for the clarification.

....I have a bunch of old coins I kept “just in case” without even thinking about it or realizing they no longer are necessary, lol. Time for some spring cleaning if I ever dig my way out of all of the finals work I am currently buried under.

One topic, it would be cool if someday they did have a system to purchase specific gear. I want the Orbonne tank top so bad but it never drops when I tank. Though I suppose that comes with the possibility old raids wouldn’t be as populated after their time in the sun- even more so, that is.

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Originally Posted by Timmyftw

Worst part is... the old alliance raid coins can't be traded in anymore. They flat out took out the ability to trade them to npcs.

https://i.imgur.com/NwPqM9g.png

They even changed the item description to say they are worthless.

https://i.imgur.com/owEE0NK.png

Go a head and look them all up, they are all have no use any longer.
A big slap in the face to anyone who saved them from previous tiers.
There use to be a couple Orchestrion songs and other stuff you could buy with them... not anymore.

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"Shop selling price: NONE" then right under that...
"sells for1 gil"
LOL

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Originally Posted by Dzian

"Shop selling price: NONE" then right under that...
"sells for1 gil"
LOL

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Shop selling price = how much shops charge to sell it to you.

Sells for = how much you will get upon selling it to a shop.

They should make old AR coins available to use to buy the gear from that raid. Even if it's 10 coins per piece. Just something to mitigate the insane RNG at 24 people fighting over one of 2 possible chest slots (that could still be something other than a chest) per run.

They previously allowed you to turn in some of the coins to the NPC in Idyllshire for Crystal Sand (Ulan), but they haven't updated her to take any of the newer coins, and never actually removed the (old, unobtainable) coins from her list. I've got a complaint thread posted in the Quests subtopic about that, since it's not fair to have an NPC ask for an item that can no longer be obtained in a quest.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

They should make old AR coins available to use to buy the gear from that raid. Even if it's 10 coins per piece. Just something to mitigate the insane RNG at 24 people fighting over one of 2 possible chest slots (that could still be something other than a chest) per run.

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I think it's just 8 as each party has their own loot, but yeah. Unless you're a tank, the double rng of hoping your piece actually drops and then potentially having competition for it can be maddening with how long the raids can be.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

They should make old AR coins available to use to buy the gear from that raid. Even if it's 10 coins per piece. Just something to mitigate the insane RNG at 24 people fighting over one of 2 possible chest slots (that could still be something other than a chest) per run.

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Honestly, I've been saying for years that there should just be a pity system for gear for a while. Keep the restriction while its in effect that you only can exchange for one item per week, and only if you haven't obtained loot from the dungeon, but every run gives you a piece of currency that a set number of that currency can be exchanged for any piece of loot in the raid. Would help for glamor farming once the content is unrestricted, and getting loot you actually want when it is. Not to mention that it would let more casual players look at the stats on a piece of gear to determine ahead of time what pieces are priority to obtain within the game itself.

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Originally Posted by wereotter

Not to mention that it would let more casual players look at the stats on a piece of gear to determine ahead of time what pieces are priority to obtain within the game itself.

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A casual player doesn't really have gear priority. Just get the required average item level to do the content that the player wants to do. Otherwise, augmented tomestone gearing is the long term goal anyway, though not necessary depending on the contents that will be done.

EDIT: If there is a piece of gear that can be prioritized, it's probably just the weapon, but alliance raids don't have weapons anyway.

Even if someone doesn't care about the stats though, having a place to be able to free 'try on' to see what glams you want to prioritize would be nice to have.

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Originally Posted by linayar

A casual player doesn't really have gear priority. Just get the required average item level to do the content that the player wants to do. Otherwise, augmented tomestone gearing is the long term goal anyway, though not necessary depending on the contents that will be done.

EDIT: If there is a piece of gear that can be prioritized, it's probably just the weapon, but alliance raids don't have weapons anyway.

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I'm thinking for the idea of me not being a raider, and playing monk wanting gear that has critical hit over gear that does not. So if I can trade off an Eden or unupgraded tomestone piece with crit and skillspeed for a piece that has neither stat, that's what I'm going to do. Casual encompases a large range of players, some that just don't do the hardest content, but care enough about substats to want to pick what will make the best impact or will make the job more fun to play.