Anyone else surprised what happened with Valens Van Varro?

Flirting with that M-rating lol, you got guts Yoshi-P and I love that about you hehe. xD

I was hoping for a Burn out the bad followed by a beam

Normally you’d pop a bottle of champagne after a victory, but this occasion called for popping something a little more special. :)

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Originally Posted by BunniEclair

Normally you’d pop a bottle of champagne after a victory, but this occasion called for popping something a little more special. :)

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And then the robot yeets him and we cut to Gaius watching him ragdoll across the sky : D

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Originally Posted by ItMe

And then the robot yeets him and we cut to Gaius watching him ragdoll across the sky : D

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lmaooo

Diamond wep, probably: “This man empty! YEET!”

I thought it was extremely satisfing yet extremly suprised they did it. Deserved.

Well worth Gaius being part of the beat down.

Who else was hearing the Goofy yell when he got tossed?

Not surprised about what happened to him but rather how it happened. And it was very satisfying to watch. At first I was disappointed when it looked like I wouldn't get the chance to personally burn out the bad but I admit this ended up being the much better solution. Pop him and toss him like a rag doll.
I also liked the panicked typing and searching when Gaius used his special unrecorded move.

Not surprised but it was genuinely the best part of the entire Werlyt saga for me. Seeing the embodiment of why I dislike the writing in that storyline do, well, THAT was very satisfying.

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Part of why I played the new Werlyt story first was wanting to really see Valens get his just deserts, and I was very satisfied with it (especially as an Au Ra player) even if it was not my character who delivered the finishing blow. This was not the WoL's (they do not even meet in any scenes surprisingly) nemesis but Gaius and his orphans and the fact that it was perhaps even more skirting the line and certainly more drawn out and poetic then even Telji Adaledji death made it all the sweeter.

The almost cartoonish "pop!" sound effect was very unexpected.

Gosh, thank god, I couldn't stand him.

Surprised ? A little bit, it was unexpected, but glad ? Oooh yeah.

I was surprised as well. However I was hoping we would get a role play instance where we got to play as Gaius and fight him. Then in the end show the cutscene.

No

And I shed no tears at his passing.

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Originally Posted by FrightfulNight

This was not the WoL's (they do not even meet in any scenes surprisingly) nemesis but Gaius and his orphans and the fact that it was perhaps even more skirting the line and certainly more drawn out and poetic then even Telji Adaledji death made it all the sweeter.

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This is actually a huge reason why I love the ending. Yes the WoL was instrumental in getting the story to the point in which Valens got cornered, but the people whose lives were ruined by him got to dish out the retribution themselves, they didn't have someone else do it on their behalf. The WoL wasn't the constant star of the show and I really enjoyed that.

Also it was so satisfying to watch Valens get picked up by Diamond Weapon and get crushed by his own horrible creation. /chef's kiss

I was honestly worried the guy wouldn't get a satisfying end after all the terrible things he had done, so I'm glad they went above and beyond in that regard.

I definitely agree this was an instance where the villain was better off being dealt with by someone other then us.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

the villain was better off being dealt with by someone other then us.

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i wish they would have done the same with ranjit...



i assumed he would die... but i was afraid the way would be too kind.... well, it wasnt :D

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Originally Posted by Asari5

i wish they would have done the same with ranjit...



i assumed he would die... but i was afraid the way would be too kind.... well, it wasnt :D

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Agreed with Ran'jit.

I feel he was more Thancred's foil than ours and he should have just died in Ahm Aerang. It's not like he had much to do after anyway. And while they'd have needed a new 'boss' for the Eulmore assault, I feel it would have worked well to have Vauthry panicking and not knowing what to do without Ran'jit there, and also explain why Eulmore's supposedly formidable mlitary was in disarray and unable to mount much of a defense.

Everything about Mister V.V.V. was so over the top, that the nicest thing I could think to say about him was "Well, it was left ambiguous if he actually raped the children, after torturing them and branding them with hot irons."

Being taken out by his victims in some way was almost a given; crushed to death by a giant robo-fist powered by the souls of the dead seemed fitting enough.

I really loved the whole Welryt saga... To the point I wish it had more of its elements, like the G-Warrior, explored. But I get that it's just a side story.

It's a shame, though, that Squeenix can't (afford to?) allocate voice acting resources to the other parallel big storylines to the MSQ. The fruition of those would greatly improve with it.

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Originally Posted by Raikai

I really loved the whole Welryt saga... To the point I wish it had more of its elements, like the G-Warrior, explored. But I get that it's just a side story.

It's a shame, though, that Squeenix can't (afford to?) allocate voice acting resources to the other parallel big storylines to the MSQ. The fruition of those would greatly improve with it.

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Agreed, I feel like anything that's Chronicles of a New Era could only benefit from voice acting. Though I wonder how much it would have cost to get the Nier cast in for the Yorha raids xD

From start to finish I actually really enjoyed this storyline. Seeing that man suffer was the icing on the cake for me. That was not a quick death. He felt every ounce of pressure. One might argue that it was still better than he deserved, but it was satisfying nonetheless.

Eh, it was alright. I don't tend to entertain revenge fantasies because the characters are just pixels on the screen at the end of the day.

I thought Valens was a pretty amusing presence. Much like Joffrey in Game of Thrones. Although I'm a sucker for antagonists and villains with nuance and sympathetic backgrounds, it's nice to just get a completely unrepentant psychopath from time to time. Valens was that in spades, but unlike Zenos...he didn't just sit around complaining that he was bored. He actually did stuff! Plus, for all his nastiness he was actually pretty talented...if overconfident. In many ways, he reminded me of Hojo from FFVII.

I liked the plotline. At first I was half and half on my feelings about it. I thought that Gaius' kids were being idiots and the motive didn't seem logical, like if you want to do Gaius proud, don't repeat his mistakes and just listen to him, because it'll end badly and look, you just saw it end badly. And like, "I kill gods for a living", they'd be safe coming with the WoL and Gaius - tell them what you know and point the WoL in the direction of the bad guy.

But it made more sense as you learned more about their situation and their motive. How they wanted to make him proud wasn't through continuing where he left off in the sense of the Weapons project, but in the sense of the strong leading the weak and in liberating their own people and ending the weapons project and it seems a little suicide by WoL helped.

But Allie always ended up seeming like the sensible one, though she did do a dumb-dumb with Diamond, but it paid off.

As for Valens, yeah, he was unrepentant and some of the implied undertones were a bit ick. But I was invested in seeing him get served and he got served and it was beautiful, you know he suffered and it was an unexpected detail but I think they realised what the fans wanted. And using the Heavenscracker 'pop' sound effect was clearly intentional, it just made it that little less dignifying whilst handling something gruesome without it breaking the age rating.

Honestly the best part was seeing panic as soon as my boy Gaius bust out the new move. I was reminded that Gaius used to be the big bad we needed to take out for a reason.
Low key I'm kinda of hoping in 6.0 he becomes the new emperor of garlemald and keeps his ideal of strength regardless of race, religion, creed. Thats one way they could end the game with.

Wasn’t a fan of the storyline, was insanely predictable and monotonous. It did go to good lengths though i suppose to show Gaius’ faults. Would be interesting to see him be the right hand of the next Emperor(i don’t see him as actual Emperor material though). I thought Valens was interesting, essentially a better Zenos but i’m not a big fan of body horror so the plot line as a whole was pretty meh.

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

Wasn’t a fan of the storyline, was insanely predictable and monotonous. It did go to good lengths though i suppose to show Gaius’ faults. Would be interesting to see him be the right hand of the next Emperor(i don’t see him as actual Emperor material though). I thought Valens was interesting, essentially a better Zenos but i’m not a big fan of body horror so the plot line as a whole was pretty meh.

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I like the body horror, though one thing I struggle to understand is why it's unforgivable when the Garleans do it but 'a grim necessity' when the Fae do it. I can't imagine life as a leafman is any more pleasant than life as an artificial construct, though it wouldn't the first time that the story ignores the implications of what some of the 'protagonists' do.

This dude really tried to fight someone with a tablet. What a...what a putz.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

I like the body horror, though one thing I struggle to understand is why it's unforgivable when the Garleans do it but 'a grim necessity' when the Fae do it. I can't imagine life as a leafman is any more pleasant than life as an artificial construct, though it wouldn't the first time that the story ignores the implications of what some of the 'protagonists' do.

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The Pixies and Fauth being tiny sociopaths by nature is pretty much exactly how mythology portrayed Fea. They’re innocent, not evil, they aren’t driven by a fear of consequences/empathy, just like a bratty, unwatched child. Fairytales were the original horror stories for kids to keep them in line, afterall. It became abundantly clear how disturbed our WoL is by them after a few side-quests and Feo Ul’s drive to help us is more a personality quirk of theirs than actual empathy.

This is the difference. Garleans like VVV and Zenos have not only gotten away with being sadistic bastards, but are actively rewarded for doing so instead of being brought to justice. Shoot, since the horrific actions of the Allagans and Garlean Empire are a result of how Emet Selch initially built them, the Fea creatures unique to the First might be another Ascian’s idea on how to breed more chaos and discord. (Pixie and Fauth are born out of circumstances surrounding a desth, so I wouldn’t be surprised.)

On subject, the ending chunk bringing the story together was really all I cared about. I’m having a slightly less hard of a time being on board with Good Guy Gaius now, and I was too busy crying about Allie’s memories, because, damn, that was the perfect kind of cheese to get me going. Priorities, I guess.

Just going to leave this here...

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pr...M_uTENYnA41PUY

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Originally Posted by Haruka_R

This dude really tried to fight someone with a tablet. What a...what a putz.

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Lesson learned: Garleans make terrible arcanists.

I am glad it happened. Even happier with the overall ending of this particular series of quests. Got me right in the feels ;-;

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Originally Posted by Penthea

This is actually a huge reason why I love the ending. Yes the WoL was instrumental in getting the story to the point in which Valens got cornered, but the people whose lives were ruined by him got to dish out the retribution themselves, they didn't have someone else do it on their behalf. The WoL wasn't the constant star of the show and I really enjoyed that.

Also it was so satisfying to watch Valens get picked up by Diamond Weapon and get crushed by his own horrible creation. /chef's kiss

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What I liked was that we played our role, we weren't the star, yet we also didn't feel like the 5th wheel.

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Originally Posted by Lanadra

What I liked was that we played our role, we weren't the star, yet we also didn't feel like the 5th wheel.

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Yep, same here. Sure, we did most of the fighting, but it wasn't about us.

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Originally Posted by glitteringcosmos

Agreed, I feel like anything that's Chronicles of a New Era could only benefit from voice acting. Though I wonder how much it would have cost to get the Nier cast in for the Yorha raids xD

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Not as much as you might think I reckon.. well, depends on whether you're speaking Japanese or English. 2B's Japanese voice, Yui Ishikawa, is quite regularly employed for main/big characters in gacha games.. and if a gacha game can pay for her to voice a role with more lines than 2B had in this raid series, SE could have paid her as well. They simply choose not to add voice acting to anything but the main story, you're not going to convince me it's a money issue.

I can't help but think of that "gripping food with force" twitter.

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Originally Posted by Lanadra

Not as much as you might think I reckon.. well, depends on whether you're speaking Japanese or English. 2B's Japanese voice, Yui Ishikawa, is quite regularly employed for main/big characters in gacha games.. and if a gacha game can pay for her to voice a role with more lines than 2B had in this raid series, SE could have paid her as well. They simply choose not to add voice acting to anything but the main story, you're not going to convince me it's a money issue.

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Im frustrated about it... many care less about side stuff just for that reason and on werlyt, not having voiced Gaius lines is such waste...

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

Im frustrated about it... many care less about side stuff just for that reason and on werlyt, not having voiced Gaius lines is such waste...

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I genuinely can't understand the decision either. Other than 'this is how we've handled it from the start', characters like 2B in the Nier raids and especially Gaius in the Werlyt series being unvoiced is just inconceivable. I don't believe for a second that they don't have budget for it, it's just a choice of 'we've never had this kind of content voiced so neither do we now'.

I'm sorry but it has to be said: the blood trickling sound after the pop sounded like someone took a small leak.