Garuda: Awesome!
Craftable: Bullshit!
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Garuda: Awesome!
Craftable: Bullshit!
Discuss :)
I was holding out to level pug post 2.0. Both of these weapons make me want to level now.
Garuda is definitely the better of the two, but the crafted version is fun.
Though I wouldn't fault anyone for not liking either. It's all personal taste.
I am so sick of these ridiculously horrible Pugilist weapons.. I can't even play mine anymore because I can't have a decent weapon without looking like a full scale jackass. Square-Enix needs to knock this BS off..
If the other option is a pair of Massive Expanding Bricks? Yes, yes i would. I would prefer to have a pair of Plain Spiked Knuckles with spikes that pop out than run around with two Giant rocks on my hands.
Or, if they wanted to take it a little farther, they could do something like the Claws they already have in game and make them retract. Perhaps somethings that rest around the writs and expands around the fists when drawn. Maybe do something like Advent children where its just a braces pair of knuckles with a secondary impact device built into them? Even the Garuda claws would be decent if they weren't the size of the Lalafels head..
There is no reason for PUG weapons to be massive and ridiculous. I don't know about you, but I dont want to be the laughing stock of the DD world because my weapons look like they are going to snap my writs at any moment. Worse yet, how friggin' pathetic is it to literally give us Cubes? Seriously, Cubes? SE didn't wanna step its game up and round some edges? Pathetic.
That's an exaggeration.
Plus there are claws that extend when you draw them. Check out the Garuda preview.
If each weapon is going to be unique, some will have to look a little strange. Look at the crafted LNC weapon. It unfurls into a fence. God forbid some things are just fun for the sake of being fun.
And yes, if SE released a line of fruit-shaped weapons I would support it as long as my Thm can get a wand with a coconut with a lime wedge in it on the top.
I guess they took there inspiration from minecraft lol.
SE needs to learn how to draw hands before they can make decent looking h2h weps
I would prefer something along these lines:Quote:
Seriously, I'd like to see some examples of what people would prefer.
http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/j.../bringer04.jpg
I don't want to design weapons for SE. I have no desire to be an artist. All I want is something reasonable and realistic. Every other class gets at least fairly realistic weapons with some cool features added. Why is it that only Pugilists have to suffer with this WoW level absurdity?
Garuda weapon is an example of awesome design... the crafted one is an example of... I don't honestly know if you can call it 'design'. I suppose the boxes do have a pattern on them.
Also it'd be nice to have some subtle weapons like knuckle dusters or something you grip in palm with blades between fingers like claws or something. Even current non-primal claws look a bit ridiculous. I might be the only one but I can kinda recognise that our fists are the weapon so we don't need giant extensions on our hands.
I actually like all the current primal designs for pgl though. I dunno, I'm willing to suspend disbelief a bit more for primal weapons. Moogle ones were obviously just meant to be fun looking. Ifrit's while some people call them ugly I kind of like the shape and how it looks like we made them from Ifrit's horns (though again, they look too big to be viable weapons but suspension of disbelief thing again). Garuda h2h is the best weapon I've seen yet.
EDIT;
Thinking about this I can sort of see where some difficulties might be coming from. We kinda have to have a weapon we can grip onto because weapons such as gloves/gauntlets etc would actually be 'hand eq' in this game.
I'd be perfectly happy for some pgl weapons to simply be gloves but due to previous-mentioned limitation that'd be kinda awkward unless we go for gameplay over realism (which I'm 100% fine with) and just wear 'glove style weapons' over our actual hand eq and it just replaces the dat or something? This already happens with certain body pieces hiding necklaces/belts iirc
Anyways wonder what people's thoughts are on this?
I like the Ifrit and Garuda weapons, no idea why anyone is complaining about Garuda at all since they are phenomenal. The Moogle and Crafted H2h aren't my cup of tea but i see why people like them and I'm not going to throw a fit over them.
Personally though I'm waiting for the Wolf-looking AF h2h.
Let's recall the good-old hand2hand weapon design of FFVII!
Moreover, this glove have two materia slot! ;)
http://yaplog.jp/cv/ns_hamplz/img/60/11_p.jpg
i didn't attack you, i was simply asking you a ? knowing that some people like them, isn't that enough to have them in game even if you don't like them your self. For instance, i don't care for subligers, but since i know a lot of people like them i am glad they are there for those who can enjoy them.
Your getting decent looking lion/wolf head knuckles soon anyway?
Sketch I made up while playing with drawing app on my phone while back...
http://static2.finalfantasyxiv.com/a...NSDwjJT-zM.jpg
Glove/Gauntlet style for Ifrit is what I had in mind back then... then we got that Ifrit weapon... then we got this Garuda weapon... which is OK but still seems weird imo... then we got that block........... I have no comment for that...
I love the Garuda knuckles and think the crafted ones are super cool. I understand that there are a lot of people who don't like them, but tbh there are going to be a lot of different designs for h2h and I don't mind some variation even if some of them are not my cup of tea. GJ SE!
I wouldn't mind some variations in the weapons appearances, but we don't have a single pair of Normal looking decent weapons yet. Why do all the Powerful Pugilist Weapons have to look absurd? None of the powerful swords look absurd. The Ifrit Bow is a little big, but other than that none of the bows look absurd. I've personally never seen a four pronged trident before, but at least it looks feasible.
Can't we just get a pair of Shiny Black Cesti or something? Why do they all have to be outrageously over the top? Can someone please give me any reasonable explanation why I can't just have a Normal Level 50 weapon?
By all means SE, keep up the attempts at Variety, but do Something Normal first.
Crafted ones look ridiculous to me. G's looks good.
Upgrading is upgrading.
The materia system isn't devaluated because of one slot. There's still six other slots. Plus, the issue with weapons is base damage. Fix that to where a crafted weapon of the same level with multiple materia can perform on par with raid drops and it's resolved.
Regardless of whether or not the JSW is equal to or better than the crafted, it does not change the fact that we deserve weapons that look like weapons.
There is no reason for SE to continually go out of their way to make all PGL weapons absurdly over the top. I would rather have something near invisible than a massive cinder block.
You know SE...They pick certain jobs they like, and ones they don't they troll the hell out of them^^ I mean... look at PLD, both in FFXI and FFXIV....
Monk really did get the shaft as far as theme and aesthetics go.
Though those Garuda weapons are pretty sexy.
Screw you all, blocks for life!
At first i was like "wtf bricks ?", but hten, while they're ridiculous, they are also fun in some way. Hey imperial, take a brick on your teeth !
Some of you need to lighten up and not get so annoyed over silly designs in a GAME. Yes some of the weapons look ridiculous and over the top, that's the point. Out of all the Pgl/Mnk weapons in the game we have only 2 that are silly, Mogfists and the Bricks of Doom.
Yeah your all getting perfectly fine wolf/lion head fists soon anyway!
PLD in XI was fine and was most certaintly the go to tank in most HNM situations thanks to their relic's Aegis absurb block rate and huge magic damage reduction. Considering PLD could PLD/NIN and do it better than NIN with an aegis is really saying something about the class.
Any HNM LS worth something had picked a pld and pooled currency for them to get an aegis... so saying "Oh, but it was a relic weapon..." Doesn't really cut it.
The PGL weapons look different that's for sure... I'd like to see how they're used in game before I have an opinion though... The moogle weapons look like Sock'em Boppers though :P
Not some weapons, the Monk weapons... :PQuote:
Yes some of the weapons look ridiculous and over the top, that's the point
I beg to differ. The Garuda bow is so wide when drawn you can't see what you're shooting at. It looks more like a tactical shield than a bow. Also, every primal sword we have so far looks incredibly poor for actual combat situations. They're parade weapons at best.
Still, fist weapons are probably the worst off in FFXIV. Not only are the highest level drops ridiculously over the top, every single weapon in the PGL/MNK arsenal, other than the knuckles, actually don't work because they're not supported at the wrists/arms. Shields always have a strap or a similar feature to keep it supported against the arm for the same reason. The grip alone just can't keep the weapon steady and you'll only end up hurting yourself.
http://global-tactical-training.com/...pic_shield.jpg
Hey guys, look at my new bow!