Ninja & Rogue Toggle run request

Ninja & Rogue seem to have their own unique run animations when their weapon is drawn - that's a really cool feature honestly! The problem lies in the fact that you can't choose between which drawn weapon run animation you prefer. Instead, you're stuck with a painful looking run animation on Ninja when their weapons are drawn. (atleast, for me I don't like it)

Don't take away or replace the Current Ninja run animation, rather, allow players to toggle between weapon run animations for Rogue & Ninja

It's a simple request- Allow players to toggle which run animation they prefer with the Rogue & Ninja job

I do wish there was an "Assassin/Thief" job rather than Ninja, and I hate the run very much, it's a big reason why I haven't bothered to level it much.

I see what you mean. For me personally, it's not just the run animations, I just like rogue as a concept a lot more than a ninja, and was disappointed when I did the ninja job quest and everything moved away from being a rogue to using ninjutsu.

I absolutely perfer the Rogue walk/run animation, it's the true careful and calculating master of the shadows animation compared to ninja. Ninja's run looks ok on Lalafel but that's about it.

I was more into ROG as a concept than I was NIN. I get the difficulty of them having both jobs side-by-side but there was some cross over in their abilities (and still some to a degree, but many of the abilities have been replaced with something else now) and I just felt it needed the movement animations with it to be able to at least achieve some of the ROG/THF aesthetic on a NIN. Even then, I just feel the Naruto run is silly, but hey, to each their own. The fact both animations exist and for the class, I think it'd just be nice to have command to toggle it that you can do from the chat box. It's a nice-to-have I think.

Rogue doesn't have a unique run/walk animation. Just like all the DOL/DOH jobs, it's borrowing it's weapon/tool drawn walk and run animations from paladin.

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Originally Posted by juicybug

I do wish there was an "Assassin/Thief" job rather than Ninja.

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Yes please. SMNs can "downgrade" their egis to ACN pets, so why not give NIN this option for people who prefer the more low-key rogue aesthetic. It could be handled by a similar /command as egi glams, no need for a quest though to keep it low-effort for devs.

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Originally Posted by wereotter

Rogue doesn't have a unique run/walk animation. Just like all the DOL/DOH jobs, it's borrowing it's weapon/tool drawn walk and run animations from paladin.

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Nobody cares. It still looks really good and different enough with the twin blades instead of a sword and shield. Also if you want to be nitpicky then they all - including PLD - use GLD animations actually.

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Originally Posted by juicybug

I do wish there was an "Assassin/Thief" job rather than Ninja, and I hate the run very much, it's a big reason why I haven't bothered to level it much.

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Just add it onto the pile along with people who want to play Archers or true Bards. :T

I would love to have options for character animations. Rogue vs Ninja runs, Machinist Heated vs non-Heated animations, turning off Warrior's aura out of combat, stuff like that.

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Originally Posted by wereotter

Rogue doesn't have a unique run/walk animation. Just like all the DOL/DOH jobs, it's borrowing it's weapon/tool drawn walk and run animations from paladin.

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That's fair! I never really noticed so thank you for pointing that out ^^
Still, the choice to toggle run animations since they change when you get to NIN would be ideal

The one thing about nin that slightly bugs me is that it's increased speed applies to walking, so if someone's ever a NIN in RP and you're walking somewhere they always outpace everyone else a little bit lol.

Oh gosh yes. I would very much like NIN a lot more if it moved and was themed more like the rogue. It's a huge thematic downgrade for me.

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Originally Posted by Bright-Flower

The one thing about nin that slightly bugs me is that it's increased speed applies to walking, so if someone's ever a NIN in RP and you're walking somewhere they always outpace everyone else a little bit lol.

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Even when moving slowly, they're faster! Working as intended.

#NINLife

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Originally Posted by Satarn

Nobody cares. It still looks really good and different enough with the twin blades instead of a sword and shield. Also if you want to be nitpicky then they all - including PLD - use GLD animations actually.

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Where's this meanspirited response coming from? Yikes... they were just correcting the OP on the unique-vs-not thing.

Lots of anti-Ninja heathens in here.

but you will lose the cool flip

Every combat job just about has something that is pretty unique to that specific job, sometimes we just need to learn to live with what's unique about something they've spent time creating.

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Originally Posted by MilkieTea

they were just correcting the OP on the unique-vs-not thing.

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And I am correcting them? Stating the animations come from PLD rather than GLD is inaccurate despite trying to be a correction, since they're largely reused from 1.0 which did not originally have jobs like PLD at all. You're overreacting as if I started cursing the guy out, while I was also just correcting, at most with a slightly dismissive tone, so really just about the same as the post I responded to. Yikes indeed.

If anything, the fact that every time this topic is brought up somebody has to come with a "correction" as if it was an argument against adding the option, is mean-spirited and dismissive itself, since there was no attempt at signaling that while animations may not be completely unique, it is still a valid request.

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Originally Posted by Satarn

And I am correcting them? Stating the animations come from PLD rather than GLD is inaccurate despite trying to be a correction, since they're largely reused from 1.0 which did not originally have jobs like PLD at all. You're overreacting as if I started cursing the guy out, while I was also just correcting, at most with a slightly dismissive tone, so really just about the same as the post I responded to. Yikes indeed.

If anything, the fact that every time this topic is brought up somebody has to come with a "correction" as if it was an argument against adding the option, is mean-spirited and dismissive itself, since there was no attempt at signaling that while animations may not be completely unique, it is still a valid request.

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They never dismissed it - you're the one who assumed they were attempting to by simply correcting the presumption that it's a unique animation. The fact that they simply said "it's not actually unique to *blank*" (not a direct quote, obviously) means nothing other than "it's not actually unique to *blank*".

It's like if someone were to say "I wish the cashews in chocolate werent so crunchy" and someone else corrected by saying "theyre not cashews but walnuts." That's simply a correction. Maybe theyre wrong, but theyre not saying that the actual OPINION is invalid or anything, just doing their best to correct the misassumption.

To be honest, it's extremely meanspirited to think that whenever there's no outright praise or agreement with the view, that it's exactly the opposite and theyre against it.

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Originally Posted by Satarn

And I am correcting them? Stating the animations come from PLD rather than GLD is inaccurate despite trying to be a correction

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It's GLA, not GLD. ;)

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Originally Posted by Jandor

It's GLA, not GLD. ;)

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Originally Posted by Esmoire

Oh gosh yes. I would very much like NIN a lot more if it moved and was themed more like the rogue. It's a huge thematic downgrade for me.

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I'm with you on it being a thematic downgrade- I don't plan on sticking to the class once I get it leveled mostly due to the wonky Ninja run & not being able to toggle between the rogue animation

i feel you op, in my case is machinist heated attack animation, i really really REALLY hate machinist heated shot combo animation, i much prefer the low level shot animation (before upgrade to heated)

in my mind machinist is this precise and utility gadget person, and the low level shot animation portray their class better than a person with tools and trade doing a fricking backflip!!!! what in the blaze name the dev is thinking....

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Originally Posted by Esmoire

Oh gosh yes. I would very much like NIN a lot more if it moved and was themed more like the rogue. It's a huge thematic downgrade for me.

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Me too (or a straight up assassin, fine aswell) but I think they stated somewhere that they intentionally moved away from anything that could be associated with thiefs, thugs etc. so it doesn't look like they're promoting or endorsing criminal behaviour even in fiction.
With how strictly they censor violence and making as much happen off screen as possible and keeping it generally PG it's not surprising. Still a shame, I like a bit of an outlaw image tied to a class. Doesn't have to be really edgy, dark and criminal, just a bit would be enough for me.
NIN is all about control, principles, code of honor, loyalty, duty and so on which is fine on its own ... just not what many people were hoping for when they picked up rogue.

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Originally Posted by Rilifane

Me too (or a straight up assassin, fine aswell) but I think they stated somewhere that they intentionally moved away from anything that could be associated with thiefs, thugs etc. so it doesn't look like they're promoting or endorsing criminal behaviour even in fiction.
With how strictly they censor violence and making as much happen off screen as possible and keeping it generally PG it's not surprising. Still a shame, I like a bit of an outlaw image tied to a class. Doesn't have to be really edgy, dark and criminal, just a bit would be enough for me.
NIN is all about control, principles, code of honor, loyalty, duty and so on which is fine on its own ... just not what many people were hoping for when they picked up rogue.

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I'd play NIN if I could toggle the run animation to how the Rogue Runs when their weapon is drawn. I don't associate the Rogue run with being a criminal at all- I don't think anyone else does either- I just strongly dislike that players aren't allowed to toggle between run animations on NIN & in my opinion, is an oversight by SE
to deter from anything 'criminal' related, yet we slay people & living things all of the time- that sounds like murder imo which isn't PG. So, now SE is picking & choosing if we think about it
We can't have an "outlaw" image but we can run around with our buttcheeks out in underwear
Maybe I'm overthinking it & over criticizing ( my apologies if it seems that way! :c )

Having options never hurt though & it seems to be the want out of everyone who's responded mostly- let's hope a higher-up takes notice ^^
Also, I appreciate your input

Even 'rogue' tends to avoid actual criminal activity. The Rogues, while a bit secretive, are actually part of how Limsa operates, part of the system in a way, rather than being something like a thieves guild etc.

It's a real shame. I love the whole 'class fantasy' that a rogue brings to the table. It's disappointing to me that it's only relevant for thirty levels.

I feel like they are never going to give you this option and it's pointless to ask for it. this isn't like asking for more space or something simple. This is asking them to change animations. Literally the backbone of the job.

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Originally Posted by Gameovers

I feel like they are never going to give you this option and it's pointless to ask for it. this isn't like asking for more space or something simple. This is asking them to change animations. Literally the backbone of the job.

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The run animation is already there, it just isn't available once you become a NIN- Since that is what we're talking about, we're not asking to replace a run animation if you read the OP. Just make the Rogue once available as well.
SE isn't some small indie company, I'm sure they could figure out something- but small indie companies have seemingly done more with less compared to big gaming companies these days-

regardless of how you see it - I don't believe anything is pointless to ask without trying 1st

Already has a toggle. Just don't draw your weapons when you run :P

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Originally Posted by Vyrerus

Already has a toggle. Just don't draw your weapons when you run :P

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This is about a run animation toggle when the weapons are drawn though, so nice try

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Originally Posted by Gameovers

I feel like they are never going to give you this option and it's pointless to ask for it.

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And it is. The Ninja running animation is what defines Ninja and it is what it was intended to be. The devs will most definitely not be changing it just because the smallest percentage of people don't like it.

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Originally Posted by Haruka_R

And it is. The Ninja running animation is what defines Ninja and it is what it was intended to be. The devs will most definitely not be changing it just because the smallest percentage of people don't like it.

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I wouldn't say that it "defines" Ninja. It's still a Ninja just as much without a uniquely dramatic running animation. No one is asking for it to be removed or even directly changed, but merely a toggle to use the Rogue animation since Ninja is an extension of Rogue.