Lunar Whale location

I read in another thread that some people speculate that the lunar whale remains in Sharlayan.

I also thought so , but today i studied the worldmap of Hydaelyn and i recognized a floating whale in the clouds above the garlean empire:

https://i.redd.it/cd82pufd6va01.png

What do you think? is that a hint to our "cap to the moon"or just art ?


Ps: yeah my english is bad, my apologize , many years past since school:p

I don't think well get there via whale.
I think everyone will piggyback on a DRG and we're all gonna jump there!

The Lunar Whale concept is being used for the Fan Festival merchandise mount, so it seems unlikely that it will appear in the game story.

I don't know if they'll outright use the Lunar Whale. Part of me wonders if we'll be using the Void Ark as a reference to it since Fandaniel's new buildings resemble Mhachi stuff.

If anything our transport to the moon's probably gonna be that Star Destroyer lookin' thing in the logo.

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Originally Posted by Cilia

If anything our transport to the moon's probably gonna be that Star Destroyer lookin' thing in the logo.

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An Allagan Starship. And yeah we're probably gonna salvage one from the coils or the Burning Wall.

While i dont disagree, i had another thought that i havent really seen anyone else mention. The Endwalker logo looks enough like a ship that its probly a safe bet. But if you look at it from the right angle, it could also be a tower. The Tower of Babel was supposed to be a path to the moon as well in FF4. The tallest tower ive seen in game is Heaven on High(which you literally cant see the top of from in zone), but there could be something else in a part of the world we have yet to visit.

The whale on the map is probably Bismarck, likely a flourish of "here be dragons".

An FC member mentioned the other day about possibly using the Void Ark to get to the moon.

If we go with the Sharlayan theory surrounding the next major city, Sharlayan has a strong lore connection with the Ark found in Gyr Abania. My guess is this what will be used to get to the moon.

I believe this was used by the founder of Sharlayan to ride out one of the previous calamities. Then those survivors go on to found Sharlayan.

The implication here is if Sharlayan is found after using this Ark, the history of Sharlayan runs deeper than the actual "country" of Sharlayan. And since Sharlayan may be a legacy civilization of a previous nation, I would guess their "knowledge and power" which they refuse to share with the world stems from this previous civilization.

I know there are a lot of theories about how the space ship is Allagan, which I also believe to be correct.

But I also think Sharlayan is legacy civilization of passivist mages and scholars from Allag who have been keeping their knowledge secret from the rest of the world to prevent a second Allagan empire and also ensure their survival.

So therefore, the ship in Gyr Abania is the space ship. And since the threat facing Sharlayan, in the upcoming expansion, is one that by magnitude is well beyond a second Allag, but the end of all existence, should be enough to convince them to act.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

The Lunar Whale concept is being used for the Fan Festival merchandise mount, so it seems unlikely that it will appear in the game story.

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I don't think the fact that it's a mount necessarily rules out it being used to go to the moon. After all, you can ride the Skyslipper in cutscenes without ever obtaining the actual mount. I could see the Lunar Whale being a cash-grab: folks who pony get the mount all the time, those who don't get a few cutscenes with it and nothing more.

That said, I could also see it as being nothing more than a Festival-only homage, like Wind-up Rydia and so on.

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Originally Posted by LineageRazor

I don't think the fact that it's a mount necessarily rules out it being used to go to the moon. After all, you can ride the Skyslipper in cutscenes without ever obtaining the actual mount.

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I don't think that's a comparable situation because you see it first in the cutscene and then later get a chance to own it.

Having it freely for sale on Mog Station from level 1 and then making a big deal of it revealing it late in the story seems counterproductive.

I believe we will get to the Moon via a Tower of Babil reference from FFIV. In FFIV, Golbez was mind controlled by the Lunarian, Zemus, to collect all of the crystals of the elements, both Light and Dark. This was done in order to power the tower's dimensional elevator to teleport the Giant of Bab-il to Earth and destroy all sentient life to make room for the Lunarians. After you stop the giant with the aid of the good Lunarian, Cecil's uncle FuSoYa, he and Golbez use the same dimensional elevator to take the fight directly to Zemus and end things once and for all.

By that point though, the main cast had already obtained the Lunar Whale(it'll always be the Big Whale to me), so they used that to go to the Moon instead (mainly so the player can freely go to and from the moon).

Since we already teleport with reckless abandon, I think we'll be using the dimensional elevator from a tower we've not been to yet. Of course, we might wind up riding the tower wholesale, in order to have a base of operation on the Moon, in which we can freely teleport there and back again from.

the whale floating in the map looks close to werlyt maybe it could symbolise a lake of some sort there?

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Originally Posted by LineageRazor

I don't think the fact that it's a mount necessarily rules out it being used to go to the moon. After all, you can ride the Skyslipper in cutscenes without ever obtaining the actual mount. I could see the Lunar Whale being a cash-grab: folks who pony get the mount all the time, those who don't get a few cutscenes with it and nothing more.

That said, I could also see it as being nothing more than a Festival-only homage, like Wind-up Rydia and so on.

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The last Fan Fest mount was Cloud's Fenrir motorcycle from Advent Children and that had no effect on the story.

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Originally Posted by GoldStarz

An Allagan Starship. And yeah we're probably gonna salvage one from the coils or the Burning Wall.

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Right, that's what I thought too - specifically, an Allagan Ragnarok-class Internment Hulk - they're a close shape to that flying wedge in the logo, and it's already clearly established in the lore that they're spacecraft.

I doubt we get one from the remains of Dalamud though, as those weren't in too great shape (being blasted down to earth during the Calamity wouldn't have helped their structural intergrity). :P

Considering that there are Allagan ruins all over the place, it's not entirelly that unfeasable that the Ironworks may locate one and get it operational - it could even be called The Great Whale (to differentiate it from the Lunar Whale FFIV Amano art mount being offered with the upcoming digital Fanfest), and of course, yet another FFIV reference. ;)

I just hope when they do, the BGM theme for either the mount or flying to the Moon is a Soken remix of this track. ;)