[BLU] Saving Hotbar - Big QoL

We have so many different spell that can be used in so many different situation.

Each role you play as BLU won't need the same spell.
(Healer needing Pom Cure, Tank needing Dragonforce..)

Each situation you play BLU as a certain role won't need the same spell.
(In dungeon ? In the worldmap ? In raid ? Masked Carnival ?)

We often place our spell in our most used hotbar just as every other normal job. (keyboard shortcut on those for example)

So...
Would it be possible for BLU to save their whole hotbar for each set ?

Replacing the spell on your hotbar each time you go on another duty is a bit tedious, especially if you have to adapt quickly because of your party composition (suddenly needing to play as healer or full DPS, bring some support spell..)
It would save some time and you wouldn't have to worry of forgetting some.

That's also why I don't like to mix what I'm doing too much as BLU and like to stick to one role for a certain time.
Rearranging my hotbar every 10 minutes is annoying

It would be a great QoL.

I'd love this, but even offering jobstone-esque hotbar sets might be a fairly big ask when multiplied by millions of players.

There's probably a technical limitation to that... but I actually thought about something:

Why not let the blue mage spellbook bar (the one you allocate the spells to) be used as an option for a hotbar?

Or maybe while on that bar, what you drag and drop to your hotbars is actually the spell slot and not the spell itself? So it would change depending on what's assigned to that slot in the blue mage book.

I fully agree that would be a huge QoL

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Originally Posted by van_arn

I'd love this, but even offering jobstone-esque hotbar sets might be a fairly big ask when multiplied by millions of players.

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Pretty sure hotbar information is saved locally.

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Originally Posted by KDSilver

We have so many different spell that can be used in so many different situation.

Each role you play as BLU won't need the same spell.
(Healer needing Pom Cure, Tank needing Dragonforce..)

Each situation you play BLU as a certain role won't need the same spell.
(In dungeon ? In the worldmap ? In raid ? Masked Carnival ?)

We often place our spell in our most used hotbar just as every other normal job. (keyboard shortcut on those for example)

So...
Would it be possible for BLU to save their whole hotbar for each set ?

Replacing the spell on your hotbar each time you go on another duty is a bit tedious, especially if you have to adapt quickly because of your party composition (suddenly needing to play as healer or full DPS, bring some support spell..)
It would save some time and you wouldn't have to worry of forgetting some.

That's also why I don't like to mix what I'm doing too much as BLU and like to stick to one role for a certain time.
Rearranging my hotbar every 10 minutes is annoying

It would be a great QoL.

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You can do this already, it involves macros and using hot bars for base classes like gladiator/conjuror/thaumaturge

Pretty sure there is a guide for it on Reddit or YouTube or both.

You can already sort of do this by using the "unused" classes (i.e., ACN, ARC, PLG, CNJ, etc. - anything that changes upon reaching level 30). You then create a macro that "saves" the layout. For example, here are the macros that I use to "save":

Save BLU (DPS - Boss)
/macrolock
/hotbar copy current 1 ARC 1
/hotbar copy current 9 ARC 2
/hotbar copy current 10 ARC 3

Save BLU (DPS - Dungeon)
/macrolock
/hotbar copy current 1 CNJ 1
/hotbar copy current 9 CNJ 2
/hotbar copy current 10 CNJ 3

Save BLU (Healer - Boss)
/macrolock
/hotbar copy current 1 ARC 8
/hotbar copy current 9 ARC 9
/hotbar copy current 10 ARC 10

Save BLU (Healer - Dungeon)
/macrolock
/hotbar copy current 1 LNC 2
/hotbar copy current 9 LNC 7
/hotbar copy current 10 LNC 8

Save BLU (Tank)
/macrolock
/hotbar copy current 1 ARC 4
/hotbar copy current 9 ARC 6
/hotbar copy current 10 ARC 7

Then you just create some macros to "load" each hotbar layout. For example:

Load BLU (DPS - Boss)
/macrolock
/hotbar copy ARC 1 current 1
/hotbar copy ARC 2 current 9
/hotbar copy ARC 3 current 10
/bluespellbook preset 1
/gs change 11

Load BLU (DPS - Dungeon)
/macrolock
/hotbar copy CNJ 1 current 1
/hotbar copy CNJ 2 current 9
/hotbar copy CNJ 3 current 10
/bluespellbook preset 2
/gs change 11

Load BLU (Healer - Boss)
/macrolock
/hotbar copy ARC 8 current 1
/hotbar copy ARC 9 current 9
/hotbar copy ARC 10 current 10
/bluespellbook preset 3
/gs change 30

Load BLU (Healer - Dungeon)
/macrolock
/hotbar copy LNC 2 current 1
/hotbar copy LNC 7 current 9
/hotbar copy LNC 8 current 10
/bluespellbook preset 4
/gs change 30

Load BLU (Tank)
/macrolock
/hotbar copy ARC 4 current 1
/hotbar copy ARC 6 current 9
/hotbar copy ARC 7 current 10
/bluespellbook preset 5
/gs change 30

If you can make do with just two sets, this macro will swap you between two barsets on any job.

Keyboard version:

Code:

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/mlock
/hotbar copy current 1 share 1
/hotbar copy current 7 current 1
/hotbar copy share 1 current 7
/hotbar copy current 2 share 1
/hotbar copy current 8 current 2
/hotbar copy share 1 current 8
/hotbar copy current 3 share 1
/hotbar copy current 9 current 3
/hotbar copy share 1 current 9

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Controller version:

Code:

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/mlock
/chotbar copy current 1 share 1
/chotbar copy current 6 current 1
/chotbar copy share 1 current 6
/chotbar copy current 2 share 1
/chotbar copy current 7 current 2
/chotbar copy share 1 current 7
/chotbar copy current 3 share 1
/chotbar copy current 8 current 3
/chotbar copy share 1 current 8

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This assumes bars 1,2,3, are NOT shared and bars 7,8,9 (chotbars 6,7,8) ARE shared. It lets you have two three-bar sets by leveraging the unused bars in the 7-9 space for each job and the unused 1-3 in the shared space. In this way, you don't have to store them on other classes' bars (which may some day be removed), and you don't have to remember which class you put the other bars on. Each job will store their alternate bars in their own bar space hidden underneath the shared bars.

If you only need two hotbars for each set, you can cycle through three bar sets, but it will require that you are sharing four bars instead of three:

Code:

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/mlock
/hotbar copy current 1 share 1
/hotbar copy current 7 current 1
/hotbar copy current 9 current 7
/hotbar copy share 1 current 9
/hotbar copy current 2 share 1
/hotbar copy current 8 current 2
/hotbar copy current 10 current 8
/hotbar copy share 1 current 10

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Code:

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/mlock
/chotbar copy current 1 share 1
/chotbar copy current 5 current 1
/chotbar copy current 7 current 5
/chotbar copy share 1 current 7
/chotbar copy current 2 share 1
/chotbar copy current 6 current 2
/chotbar copy current 8 current 6
/chotbar copy share 1 current 8

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In either case, set up barset 1.
Press macro.
Set up barset 2.
Press macro.
(if using three set macro, set up barset 3, then press macro)
You will be back at set 1.

In the specific case of blue mage, you would still have to select your spell set. There is no command to save a blue spell preset--only load--so you can't cycle them by macro.

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Originally Posted by Raikai

Or maybe while on that bar, what you drag and drop to your hotbars is actually the spell slot and not the spell itself? So it would change depending on what's assigned to that slot in the blue mage book.

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This is personally the solution I would prefer to have. If I can save my spells sets as I want, I shouldn't have to worry about saving my hotbar for them.

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Originally Posted by Garnix

This is personally the solution I would prefer to have. If I can save my spells sets as I want, I shouldn't have to worry about saving my hotbar for them.

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This assumes you'll always maintain parity between the actions that go in a particular slot. This is fine for some people, but even looking at other jobs, it's not always possible to map a DD barset to a tank barset to a healer barset with 1:1:1 action correlation. People working with blue spellsets can have this problem just within BLU.

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

Pretty sure hotbar information is saved locally.

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It is... but it's also optionally backed up with the server. Of course, if they just delete classes we could use those hotbars easily.

I guess macros are a solution for now (I totally forgot about it despite using it for my crafters).

I however wouldn't mind an other solution dedicated to BLU.
I could take the time to do this for myself because I like BLU, but it looks a bit tedious to do so many macro for this so, will everyone will do that? I doubt it.

Thank you for your suggestion though

https://i.imgur.com/mnhyC5X.jpg

We're getting it, thank you !