PUPPETMASTER CONFIRMED

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02-06-2021, 12:46 PM
Fal_Kearst

PUPPETMASTER CONFIRMED

My buddy Alowaith Xiloscient noticed if you turn the seemingly Arabic letters upside down on Yoshis shirt it says “PUP” with a smiley face!!
02-06-2021, 12:50 PM
Lexi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fal_Kearst

My buddy Alowaith Xiloscient noticed if you turn the seemingly Arabic letters upside down on Yoshis shirt it says “PUP” with a smiley face!!

Omg don’t tease me! That was my favorite in ffxi!
02-06-2021, 12:51 PM
Darkstride

Except that if you flip it upside down, the last letter does not look like a "p". It's more of a q or a g. That's hardly a "confirmed", as much as I would love the job.
02-06-2021, 12:57 PM
Fal_Kearst

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkstride

Except that if you flip it upside down, the last letter does not look like a "p". It's more of a q or a g. That's hardly a "confirmed", as much as I would love the job.

Backwards P’s are hip and in right now
02-06-2021, 07:57 PM
wereotter

I wouldn't go so far as to say puppet master....

Any job we predict from this is speculative until the next announcement, but I would say this points more to beastmaster. Skeletor and his animal companion Panthor feels more likely than puppet master right now, especially as puppet master was a job they called out as a potential limited job.
02-06-2021, 09:41 PM
Espritduo

Pup = dog = BEASTMASTER CONFIRMED.

Wouldn't be any more obtuse than the Spiderman thing he did heh.
02-07-2021, 08:26 PM
Sairys

Quote:

Originally Posted by wereotter

I wouldn't go so far as to say puppet master....

Any job we predict from this is speculative until the next announcement, but I would say this points more to beastmaster. Skeletor and his animal companion Panthor feels more likely than puppet master right now, especially as puppet master was a job they called out as a potential limited job.

If you're using mentions of potential limited jobs, Beastmaster was also noted as a job they could bring in with the limited job system. (https://kotaku.com/final-fantasy-xiv...vis-1832757804)

PUP actually seems the more likely of the two for a full job as you could just have them summon set mammet configurations. BSTs, on the other hand, seem to kinda have a similar logic to BLU given their whole shtick is charming/capturing/summoning a variety of monsters to use in battle, just limit which beasts you get to pick from already drops a decent amount of class identity and choice.
02-07-2021, 09:48 PM
Rasler_Heios

It seems to me that puppetmaster and beastmaster are ranged DPS rather than melee.
02-08-2021, 02:45 AM
White_Wolf_X

Don't see how that would fit as melee.
02-08-2021, 03:10 AM
Darkstride

Quote:

Originally Posted by White_Wolf_X

Don't see how that would fit as melee.

Because Puppetmaster in FFXI is melee. Your character uses melee attacks while the "puppet" is customized to fit a separate role.
02-09-2021, 02:02 AM
Sqwall

I have also looked into this.

THIS IS THEORY

Filth and the Fury is a reference to The Sex Pistols.
The sex pistols were heavy anti culture and believed in anarchy. Anti Law and order. And one of their biggest songs was Anarchy in The UK. Lyrics lean heavily to "anti-Christ" and "anarchist"
This is a stretch but "anti" could mean "anti normal" or "anti magic". Unconventional forms of combat in FFXIV's case.

Anti magic is ALSO used in the past by the Chronomancer not confused with time mage.

Which uses a scythe as a primary weapon. Much like the Grim Reaper which has similarities with Yoshi P's shirt.
Uses Arcana as their main school including Death, Destruction, Law, Time, Void abilities and magic.

This further explains the reaper/skeleton link leaning heavily into:
Death - Grim reaper/Death
Destruction - anti life and pushes the idea of using destruction to damage others
Law - every beginning has an end, and you can't escape death. Law of life.
Time - every mortal life has a time limit, and the grim reaper escapes time by controlling time
Void - the grim reaper defies the laws of physical form, and can be in many places at once.

This is all speculation but interesting also in how it all "sort of links".

AGAIN this is a THEROY. Food for thought.

I would like PUP as well
02-09-2021, 01:15 PM
Silver-Strider

Inb4 it becomes a limited job like BLU
02-09-2021, 01:20 PM
MicahZerrshia

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rasler_Heios

It seems to me that puppetmaster and beastmaster are ranged DPS rather than melee.

Pup and bst in xi were both melee. The only way in which they were ranged was if they used their pets exclusively to fight, which also meant they were bad pups and bsts in many cases.
02-09-2021, 01:20 PM
ItMe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silver-Strider

Inb4 it becomes a limited job like BLU

I hope so TBH.
Let me customize and build my puppet like a Custom Robo or a Medabot.
I'd be so into that.
02-09-2021, 07:34 PM
Wiccan026

Puppet Master would be more likely than beast master.... if only because it's IV related in a way.
Classic FFIV of course had the famous Calabrinca fight.... FFIV the after years kind of had (again in it's own way) a puppet master band (or at least nod to the future job)
with the dwarf princess Lucca (or whatever her name was).

I do think whatever the melee job is, we will be able to link it in some way to IV. Sage as a job references both Tella and FuSoYa in the original (and of course Palom and Lenore in After years... although they were both striving to become one).

Were going to the mood, getting IV minions, I'd be shocked if the melee job can't be linked back to IV in some way.
02-10-2021, 01:52 AM
Fal_Kearst

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sqwall

I have also looked into this.

THIS IS THEORY

Filth and the Fury is a reference to The Sex Pistols.
The sex pistols were heavy anti culture and believed in anarchy. Anti Law and order. And one of their biggest songs was Anarchy in The UK. Lyrics lean heavily to "anti-Christ" and "anarchist"
This is a stretch but "anti" could mean "anti normal" or "anti magic". Unconventional forms of combat in FFXIV's case.

Anti magic is ALSO used in the past by the Chronomancer not confused with time mage.

Which uses a scythe as a primary weapon. Much like the Grim Reaper which has similarities with Yoshi P's shirt.
Uses Arcana as their main school including Death, Destruction, Law, Time, Void abilities and magic.

This further explains the reaper/skeleton link leaning heavily into:
Death - Grim reaper/Death
Destruction - anti life and pushes the idea of using destruction to damage others
Law - every beginning has an end, and you can't escape death. Law of life.
Time - every mortal life has a time limit, and the grim reaper escapes time by controlling time
Void - the grim reaper defies the laws of physical form, and can be in many places at once.

This is all speculation but interesting also in how it all "sort of links".

AGAIN this is a THEROY. Food for thought.

I would like PUP as well

Im all in for this theory too!
02-10-2021, 01:50 PM
Hank_Hotspur

I think Yoshida was the real puppetmaster all along
02-26-2021, 11:09 PM
Sqwall

Did some digging and found this, it drips FFXIV. It's from a F2P game Let it die.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcqGIWk90ug

But the song title got me. "Always see You There"

Then I found this! Around the 10:05 mark and it hit me like a ton of bricks. It even LOOKS like FFXIV gear with buckles, black, hood, leather.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFtq25VElu0

Is this a direct reference to Yoshi P's shirt "I'll be here if you need me"?

I'm going to go out on a limb hear and say the new melee class is "Reaper".

Using Death, Drain, Arcana, while using a scythe as a main hand weapon.
02-28-2021, 12:14 AM
Raikai

I wonder how they would pull out Puppeteer (or even Beastmaster) as a mainstream job without running into the same problems that plagues Summoner, and to an extent Scholar.

I just don't see it, unless there's a big sphagetti code improvement on the horizon that would finally allow more responsive pets.
02-28-2021, 12:24 AM
DPZ2

.... aaaaaaand this is how Conspiracy Theories are born.
03-01-2021, 08:58 PM
Kesey

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sqwall

I have also looked into this.

THIS IS THEORY

Filth and the Fury is a reference to The Sex Pistols.
The sex pistols were heavy anti culture and believed in anarchy. Anti Law and order. And one of their biggest songs was Anarchy in The UK. Lyrics lean heavily to "anti-Christ" and "anarchist"
This is a stretch but "anti" could mean "anti normal" or "anti magic". Unconventional forms of combat in FFXIV's case.

Anti magic is ALSO used in the past by the Chronomancer not confused with time mage.

Which uses a scythe as a primary weapon. Much like the Grim Reaper which has similarities with Yoshi P's shirt.
Uses Arcana as their main school including Death, Destruction, Law, Time, Void abilities and magic.

This further explains the reaper/skeleton link leaning heavily into:
Death - Grim reaper/Death
Destruction - anti life and pushes the idea of using destruction to damage others
Law - every beginning has an end, and you can't escape death. Law of life.
Time - every mortal life has a time limit, and the grim reaper escapes time by controlling time
Void - the grim reaper defies the laws of physical form, and can be in many places at once.

This is all speculation but interesting also in how it all "sort of links".

AGAIN this is a THEROY. Food for thought.

I would like PUP as well

Well it should also be pointed out that the Sex Pistol's most well known song was "God Save The Queen." I think it's a reference back to Bozja which is crawling with beastmasters. This fits sharing dragoon armor and existing lore.

And remember there are versions of beastmaser in final fantasy where beastmaster doesn't have a pet but takes on animal attributes like a form to change how their attacks work.
03-01-2021, 11:30 PM
ItMe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kesey

Well it should also be pointed out that the Sex Pistol's most well known song was "God Save The Queen." I think it's a reference back to Bozja which is crawling with beastmasters. This fits sharing dragoon armor and existing lore.

And remember there are versions of beastmaser in final fantasy where beastmaster doesn't have a pet but takes on animal attributes like a form to change how their attacks work.

Would something like this use Maiming armor though?
03-02-2021, 12:04 AM
Hysterior

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkstride

Except that if you flip it upside down, the last letter does not look like a "p". It's more of a q or a g. That's hardly a "confirmed", as much as I would love the job.

Pug Master confirmed

https://i.redd.it/omhwv5xhvx831.jpg
03-02-2021, 06:05 AM
Nothv13

Quote:

Originally Posted by ItMe

Would something like this use Maiming armor though?

Potentially, but I believe Yoshi has ruled out more pet classes outside of limited classes like BLU due to all teh trouble they've had with the summoner's pet ai. Then what is the point of beatsmaster if you don't have a beast following you around.