OMG Finally they added SHINY TOOLS that glows when unsheathed!!!! :D

OMG! Finally they added SHINY TOOLS that glows when unsheathed!!!! :D
Our 6-year, looooong-desired wish has finally been granted!!!
Thank you, Yoshi P and development team!!!!

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/Untitled3691.png

EDIT: Finally, all Skybuilders' Tools acquired!!! :D
https://s2.gifyu.com/images/Untitled...n_finished.jpg

Expert crafts to upgrade to the final stage... kill me...

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Originally Posted by TW-Luna

Expert crafts to upgrade to the final stage... kill me...

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Well, it's a easier version of Expert crafts (with 10049 diff & 76939 max qual) and only require 65000 quality for best return of turn-ins. That is like nothing comparing to the 82400 quality that we deal with these days :)

The long wait is over since ARR in 2013! This looks so damn good! I love it!!!!

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/Untitled...93aa90918e.png

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/Untitled3698.png

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Originally Posted by TW-Luna

Expert crafts to upgrade to the final stage... kill me...

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My final GS+Innov+Byregot is 19627. We just need 65000.
65000-19627 = 45373
That means, I just need to reach about 45373 quality before we do our finisher (keep in mind that any more extra quality is just a total waste of time).
This is MUUUUCH lower than the 62773 I need to reach before the finisher for normal Phase 4 Expert Recipes!

Since "Centered" is available for these items, Patient Touch on "Centered" is actually a PREFERRED move at IQ3 regardless whether you're using Reflect or MusMem. If you don't get Centered yet, you can keep working on progress. Thus, we basically start at IQ6 most of the times. If you use Reflect, it's even valid to gamble Patient Touch at IQ3 at start even if no Centered is available. If you blow it, it's only -1 stack.

I once did a 2nd Patient Touch on "Centered" at IQ6 to shoot up to IQ11. I ended up having over 100 CP leftover in the end.

I accept your point that it is definitely easier than past expert crafts, but after 2/3 runs at Saint titles, I just feel burnt out on expert crafts.

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Originally Posted by TW-Luna

I accept your point that it is definitely easier than past expert crafts, but after 2/3 runs at Saint titles, I just feel burnt out on expert crafts.

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Understandable. There's no rush to get these done so after some time has passed, go for it. It's really not that bad.

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Originally Posted by TW-Luna

I accept your point that it is definitely easier than past expert crafts, but after 2/3 runs at Saint titles, I just feel burnt out on expert crafts.

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I can relate. Take it easy and do it slowly. In fact, it's a lot cheaper to do it later since all the mats on MB are bought out. If you don't plan to rush, you can even sell all your mats and easily earn millions (the mats price gone up from 7 gil each to 1000 gil each for some.). Then buy the mats back at ultra-low price later when people have finished with these crafting relics.

I thought I could at least finish 1 oder 2 of those crafting tools. But I never did those expert crafts and I was hoping it would be easier than it is for me.
I tried to find some information and explanations in german but there is nothing.
So I think I will just give up here although I like the shiny stuff for those tools.

Next on the list: make expert recipe crafts sellable on market!

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Originally Posted by ElainaMason

I thought I could at least finish 1 oder 2 of those crafting tools. But I never did those expert crafts and I was hoping it would be easier than it is for me.
I tried to find some information and explanations in german but there is nothing.
So I think I will just give up here although I like the shiny stuff for those tools.

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Nooooo! That is disheartening! I thought there are a few Expert Recipe guides on the internet, such as this one:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...9vku-9LvA/edit
and this one:
https://attackofthefanboy.com/guides...n-restoration/

Let's see if you find them helpful.

Well, even though this is an easier version of the current Phase 4 Expert Recipes, it is still Expert Recipes after all. So you still need to know all your basics, i.e. you need to know nearly every button on your hotbar. Because to be fair, I consider the use of at least 23 different actions to tackle these recipes, including Reflect, Veneration, Intensive Syn, Observe, Focused Touch, Focused Syn, Rapid Syn, Final Appraisal, Trick of Trade, Basic Syn, Careful Syn, Innovation, Manipulation, Great Strides, Byregot's Blessing, Precise Touch, Basic Touch, Prudent Touch, Hasty Touch, Preparatory Touch, Patient Touch, Master's Mend, Careful Observation. I literally use this many skills to tackle them... and sometimes even more.

I've been grinding Expert Recipes since Phase 2 till now to go after the Flying Boi mount. So many of us have been doing this for months, and it's easy for us to start forgetting that many people may have trouble with these Expert Recipes. And due to the recent Phase 4 Expert Recipes being as hard as 81447 quality, we have to resort to some risky rotations, and so it has become more of an RNG game... and so a lot of us start saying "these recipes are just dependent on RNG!" (especially when Pliant is crucial to success). But to be fair, I truly believe that the execution of Expert Recipes still require a significant amount of skill from the player. We have to know many different crafting actions by heart, and able to apply them all in different situations. That is a kind of skill that not every all-80 player has (especially when leveling is soooo easy now, which made everyone "all-80" DoH).

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Originally Posted by ElainaMason

I thought I could at least finish 1 oder 2 of those crafting tools. But I never did those expert crafts and I was hoping it would be easier than it is for me.
I tried to find some information and explanations in german but there is nothing.
So I think I will just give up here although I like the shiny stuff for those tools.

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Don't forget the rating threshold is pretty low on these. You'll still get at least 1 delicate part with a 2500 rating, which can be achieved through a macro. It means making 60 items instead of 20 to get all the needed parts but it can be done.

I'm sure someone else could come up with something much better but this will get you to minimum rating regardless of conditions.
Craftsmanship 2620 (min required)
Control 2475
CP 544
NQ Blood Bouillaibaisse + HQ Cunning Syrup

/ac "Muscle Memory" <wait.3>
/ac Manipulation <wait.2>
/ac Veneration <wait.2>
/ac "Waste Not" <wait.2>
/ac Groundwork <wait.3>
/ac Groundwork <wait.3>
/ac Groundwork <wait.3>
/ac "Final Appraisal" <wait.2> [note: not needed if Craftsmanship is 2620-2645, is needed over 2645]
/ac Groundwork <wait.3>
/ac "Inner Quiet" <wait.2>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac Manipulation <wait.2>
/ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Standard Touch" <wait.3>
/ac Innovation <wait.2>
/ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Standard Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Standard Touch" <wait.3>
/ac Innovation <wait.2>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
/ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
/ac "Basic Synthesis" <wait.3>

I would still strongly encourage you to practice doing the recipes on your own so you learn how to make use of the conditions to increase your rating, reduce the number of items you'll need to make and have a better understanding of how crafting works in general.

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Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino

Nooooo! That is disheartening! I thought there are a few Expert Recipe guides on the internet, such as this one:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...9vku-9LvA/edit
and this one:
https://attackofthefanboy.com/guides...n-restoration/

Let's see if you find them helpful.

Well, even though this is an easier version of the current Phase 4 Expert Recipes, it is still Expert Recipes after all. So you still need to know all your basics, i.e. you need to know nearly every button on your hotbar. Because to be fair, I consider the use of at least 23 different actions to tackle these recipes, including Reflect, Veneration, Intensive Syn, Observe, Focused Touch, Focused Syn, Rapid Syn, Final Appraisal, Trick of Trade, Basic Syn, Careful Syn, Innovation, Manipulation, Great Strides, Byregot's Blessing, Precise Touch, Basic Touch, Prudent Touch, Hasty Touch, Preparatory Touch, Patient Touch, Master's Mend, Careful Observation. I literally use this many skills to tackle them... and sometimes even more.

I've been grinding Expert Recipes since Phase 2 till now to go after the Flying Boi mount. So many of us have been doing this for months, and it's easy for us to start forgetting that many people may have trouble with these Expert Recipes. And due to the recent Phase 4 Expert Recipes being as hard as 81447 quality, we have to resort to some risky rotations, and so it has become more of an RNG game... and so a lot of us start saying "these recipes are just dependent on RNG!" (especially when Pliant is crucial to success). But to be fair, I truly believe that the execution of Expert Recipes still require a significant amount of skill from the player. We have to know many different crafting actions by heart, and able to apply them all in different situations. That is a kind of skill that not every all-80 player has (especially when leveling is soooo easy now, which made everyone "all-80" DoH).

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The Problem ist that I'm playing in German Client. My english is not really bad but all those special words such as skills are bad to translate in a guide without getting out of context.

But I will try with macro, seems fair for me to just collect more stuff :D

Wait a second, the CUL oven doesn't even glow but the ALC.. uh.. whatchamacallit does?

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Tested the CRP one too and it has no glow either. C'moooon Square...
For as much as we put into these to A) not even have a tool that is bar none better than the rest but also B) this level of inconsistency, just disappointing.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...213027_457.png

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Originally Posted by TW-Luna

Tested the CRP one too and it has no glow either. C'moooon Square...
For as much as we put into these to A) not even have a tool that is bar none better than the rest but also B) this level of inconsistency, just disappointing.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...213027_457.png

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I don't understand... how is this Carpenter saw not a glow? It seems to be a glamorous glow to me! :)
https://s2.gifyu.com/images/Untitled3714.png

all have a dragoon/dragon aesthetic to there glow which is a very nice touch

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Tested the CRP one too and it has no glow either. C'moooon Square...
For as much as we put into these to A) not even have a tool that is bar none better than the rest but also B) this level of inconsistency, just disappointing.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...213027_457.png

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The tools (alembics, saws, hammers, etc.) are glowing. The accessories displayed with the tools (the sawhorses, cookstove, anvil, etc.) aren't.

It does make sense even if it's not what you were hoping for.

The alchemist forge glows though, that's what I'm saying. It also looks quite nice and impressive on ALC, but none of the other crafting tables seem to glow for the other crafters. It's inconsistent.

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The alchemist forge glows though, that's what I'm saying. It also looks quite nice and impressive on ALC, but none of the other crafting tables seem to glow for the other crafters. It's inconsistent.

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But the alembic is the tool, not the accessory. It's actually very consistent.

Edit: I wonder if you're getting confused about what an alembic is. It is the "forge" - a distilling apparatus and not something an alchemist can hold in one hand.

No, for ALC, the tool is the little device they whip out and put on the top of the big furnace thing when they craft. The furnace below it is the "table" part that other classes don't have a glow for. It is inconsistent. Regardless of what an "actual" alembic is, in FFXIV, the alembic is the little grenade thing you hold in your hand.

Well, this inconsistency has been around since the first generation of golden glowing Blessed tools ages ago. It's just that nobody officially complained about it, so it persisted along the 2nd generation blueish silver Blessed tools, and until now.

It was never a major problem so other more urgent issues (such as the need for harder recipes and better rewards) were prioritized to be discussed and addressed.

It actually puzzles me why they did that big crafting table glow only to ALC alone. If you say the alembic is small, so it needs more glow on the crafting table, then the LTW and GSM tools are quite small as well. I wish they'd just make every class glow like that.

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Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino

Well, this inconsistency has been around since the first generation of golden glowing Blessed tools ages ago. It's just that nobody officially complained about it, so it persisted along the 2nd generation blueish silver Blessed tools, and until now.

It was never a major problem so other more urgent issues (such as the need for harder recipes and better rewards) were prioritized to be discussed and addressed.

It actually puzzles me why they did that big crafting table glow only to ALC alone. If you say the alembic is small, so it needs more glow on the crafting table, then the LTW and GSM tools are quite small as well. I wish they'd just make every class glow like that.

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They did it for a very obvious reason- the alembic is right where the "crafting glow" is.

Crafting glow = the ball of light that changes color depending on the current quality- White for normal, red for good, multi-colored for excellent, and black for poor.

That is RIGHT over the alembic. It would completely cover and obscure any glow from the alembic. This is clear, provable, and obvious. You would work your butt off for a glowing ALC tool only to have it be obscured by the "crafting glow".

It's not an inconsistency. They made the "table" glow in order to allow the ALC to enjoy his or her hard work.

UPDATED on first post with new picture: All Skybuilders' Tools acquired! :D :D :D

For those who are still trying to acquire the shiny Skybuilders' Tools, I have written a guide for Expert Recipes and for Fisher. For MIN/BTN, I'll add those later. Hope this helps!

Caimie Tsukino's Guide for Expert Recipes and Skybuilders' Tools:
http://ffxivrealm.com/guides/caimie-...ers-tools.201/