Would you change your healer weapon if you had the opportunity?

Hi gang.

Another 'for fun' topic since I'm aware it will never happen.

• Are you happy with your main healers weapon of choice ( canes for WHM, books for SCH and globes for AST)? If you has the option to change it, what would you change to?

I ask only because I'm a WHM main and part of me wishes that canes isn't the weapon we got. Completely a personal preference.

What i would have loved to have instead, are bells.

> canes are really similar to the blm rods. They're both large sticks. would be nice to be more unique.
> bells are supposed to be geomacer weapons, and the conjurer theme half leans into it (shake the earth as the bell shake, etc)
>I'm reminded of dark souls where healing miricles were cast using chimes.

Delusional as I am haha. Just wanted to share the thought.

Magnifying glass to amplify those Glares.

Yeah, i would love to experiment with different weapons just to see what results they would bring.

As far as i know, FFXI has something like this and imagining having, for example, a scholar using something like throwing knives would definitely be a nice change of pace to a Job system that has no customisation at all.

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Originally Posted by Anhra

Yeah, i would love to experiment with different weapons just to see what results they would bring.

As far as i know, FFXI has something like this and imagining having, for example, a scholar using something like throwing knives would definitely be a nice change of pace to a Job system that has no customisation at all.

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In XI whm/sch primarily use staffs and clubs. There are other weapons they are able to use, but they tend not to get in melee range unless they are solo or trying to trigger a proc and even then other weapons are not often the best since your proficiency and damage are based off of a skill level, which whm has none outside of clubs, staffs and throwing weapons. So seeing a whm with a sword, dagger or polearm is something that just never happens because even if they could hit an enemy, it would be like hitting it with a wet noodle.

There are bells in xi but those are the weapons of geomancer and not even the main hand weapon. It sits in the ranged slot and acts more like a focus.

WHM with a selfie stick (with a smartphone attached to it)
SCH with a drawing tablet
AST with a fidget spinner

At least for the joke weapons. Real stuff though?
WHM = see Kabooa’s, or Prismatic Crystals.
SCH = Bamboo Scroll, or Commander’s Baton
AST = Floating Magic Papers (not talismans).

Especially on SCH’s, I imagine them being able to place multiple batons for different effects depending on the numbers or positions at certain interval.
Delusional? Yep, just like you said. But one can always fantasize :)

The SCH weapon is one I find cool in concept, but man am I dissatisfied with the options we have in game.
I'd love to be able to replace it with anything else.
Or, as long as this thread is entertaining pipe dreams... I'd love it if the weapon was the fairy and pur attacks came from the fairy and each weapon we get is basically a glamour/enchantment for the fairy.

I personally preferred the wands for Black Mage and White Mage. Mostly because wands don't clip through your giant wizard hat.

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Originally Posted by Jandor

I personally preferred the wands for Black Mage and White Mage. Mostly because wands don't clip through your giant wizard hat.

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Would have loved to stay on the wand train personally myself.
Prism stones would have been nice though they probaly would have had overlap with the red mage bauble thing
Cest 'la vie

Some prayer beads might have been neat too. Or a totem of some kind (for any of the casters)

I'd like some more picks or ceremonial polearms for whm. More ornate things to counterbalance the abundance of poorly modelled sticks and sheperds crooks. Half the cast animations look like they're gonna clock someone round the head with them.

I would like it if we could choose. Even if the choices were purely cosmetic.

On the flipside, that white mages could once use wands and shields is probably part of why their staff stances and some animations can be a bit awkward...

I've long-since espoused that I would love for SCH to make use of magical tattoos. At least, ever since they've been confirmed to be viable in lore. Perhaps via the aid of a magical brace on the arm. Think power glove, but instead of looking like. That. It's a golden gauntlet with claws. Something like that. Otherwise ...

I want WHM to uses maces and shields.

I just want Glare to be true to the name and make us fire Eye Lazors. It should also be able to target allies who took avoidable damage and inflict them with a -50% dps Shame debuff.

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Originally Posted by Videra

I want WHM to uses maces and shields.

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Since WHM is slowly leaning more towards "holy priest" with their magic they might as well just do that and make them a cleric... it would need some serious animation rework though.

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Originally Posted by Liam_Harper

I just want Glare to be true to the name and make us fire Eye Lazors. It should also be able to target allies who took avoidable damage and inflict them with a -50% dps Shame debuff.

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The SAM after standing in 2 avoidable aoes and then finally dying to the unavoidable one: "heal?!"
https://media1.tenor.com/images/4f14...ec62/tenor.gif

The weapon thing is weird becuase classes like ninja get all kinds of different swords that dont qualify as "daggers". Paladins get clubs, machetes, etc. They are different flavors of weapon that fit in their hand the same. I am absolutely shocked that Scholars don't have any Scroll type weapons since they would be imbued with the same ink that makes the codecs powerful. Astrolgians are locked to globes for obvious reasons but WHM only needs to have a magical stone in their cane to suit the lore and that stone could be in any weapon really. We should have more options as healers just like monks who get tonfas, gloves, bracers, knuckles, claws, etc. The diversity is possible but healers always get the least attention.

I would love to have the option to be shield using WHM again.

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Originally Posted by NobleWinter

The weapon thing is weird becuase classes like ninja get all kinds of different swords that dont qualify as "daggers". Paladins get clubs, machetes, etc. They are different flavors of weapon that fit in their hand the same. I am absolutely shocked that Scholars don't have any Scroll type weapons since they would be imbued with the same ink that makes the codecs powerful. Astrolgians are locked to globes for obvious reasons but WHM only needs to have a magical stone in their cane to suit the lore and that stone could be in any weapon really. We should have more options as healers just like monks who get tonfas, gloves, bracers, knuckles, claws, etc. The diversity is possible but healers always get the least attention.

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For ninjas, I would assume that's because we were initially rogues - and the rogue's initial role was part of the "Thieves Guild" which prevent pirates from breaking the law. They were essentially pirates who watched for other pirates breaking the law - which made sense why their weapons wouldn't exactly be daggers until they started changing to be more and more stealthy as time went on (cleavers, anyone?). So basically we had a bit of piracy in our training that influenced our weapon choices until we had more hingan training, which eventually led to a sleeker and sharper design for weapons. Primal weapons also have their own flavor mixed into the weapons too. That's not to say we can't wield the previous weapons, but they aren't as common anymore.

For paladins, it's because we were straight up a Gladiator first - a class that was known to be able to handle all sorts of weapons - which would make sense why we have a varied set of weapons for PLD before sticking to mainly a sword and shield. It's because the WoL is just able to wield all of them.

As for the other jobs, I have no clue. Scholars were Arcanists, but Arcanists only wielded a book. No variance. Conjurers have crooks, staves, and wands, but we pretty much stopped using wands in favor for staves since Wands imply we would have a shield + block chance for healers (Bozjan healer with wand and shield to minmax survivability haha). Same with Black Mage, no more scepters.