Months of harassment

I'm typing up this post in regards to a person in Novice Network on Adamantoise that has been harassing the player base for MONTHS. It has especially gotten bad over the past week. A certain player would link items in NN that had spoiler flavor text, and tell people (especially sprouts) to read the flavor text. He would also be very rude towards people, as well as use inappropriate language, racial and homophopic slurs. He is now rolling sprouts on other Worlds on Aether, joining NN, and macroing extremely inappropriate comments, and spoilers. He just now directly attacked 3 people in NN, myself included. I understand that we have no proof that it is this person making these sprouts and harassing us, but he is literally the ONLY person in our NN that behaves in this manner. From my understanding, he is also doing stuff like this on the other Worlds on Aether. I am bringing this to the forums because this is heavily disruptive to new and veteran players alike. None of us deserve this harassment every single day. Please do something about this guy. If you have SS's of this dude behaving as such, please feel free to post it in this thread. Something HAS to be done about this person, because this behavior is extreme, and very unacceptable.

Seconding this to confirm that it's a major issue. Due to rules, I don't think there's a single piece of evidence that I personally have that can be posted to the forums, however. Almost every single piece contains vulgarities, slurs, etc. I've reported him at one point and at least according to word of mouth, know of at least ten others who have claimed to do the same. He's obviously abusing free trial features in order to do this, as it's always sprouts trolling (very obviously) in place of his main. (Though his main was the initial troll until he mysteriously disappeared for around a month), though now that they're back, they're back with a vengeance and attacking those who have kicked him in the past. At this point the only way for GMs to even deal with him would be an IP ban, and that's only if he hasn't been smart enough to use a VPN. Either way, posting in hopes somehow it helps visibility so the GMs can (hopefully) do something about it.

Adding in that this specific person has also been creating sprouts with very similar names to players who he has a vendetta against for trying to protect the community from him.

I want to add my voice to the fire, I actually reported this yesterday around 11pm EST and got in contact with a GM about it, it is getting a problem to such an extent that sprouts get flooded with so much terrible text that they complain about it and we don't have the tools to stop the person doing this, we don't have the chance to even kick them because they leave so we don't have time to remove them for (30 mins) since they are using sprout accounts and as for trying to find the account that has been adding these accounts used to troll, we can do so even less. I have not been personally attacked to be defamed like many I know, but I find it really upsetting that someone is harassing other members of the game like this. I really hope something gets done about this thank you for your time ^_^

Here is a SS of the direct harassment towards me. Offender is in white, I'm yellow, and the blue is to partially block the foul language that was used. Apologies for the poor editing skills.

https://imgur.com/a/G1ZOQnk

I literally never use these forums, and I am just here to confirm that this person is awful and constantly spamming stupid stuff
Just so you know, theres enough caps spread out and this dude will never stop

Yeah we had this wonderful person show up in NN several times on Siren spam spoilers and hateful stuff then leave before we could kick them.

I'd like to add that this person has to be invited to NN afaik so if a mod reads this please also figure out who is doing that and put restrictions on them too in some way. Thank you.

Hello! Never use the forums, but I'm a mentor on Siren, and yeah, he's been harrassing us as well as all of Aether's NNs this past week, with spam that runs the gamut talking pedophilia, homophobia, transphobia and calling me the c-word. He will even impersonate other mentors. I've made multiple reports, at least 9, since 12/18 when this problem started. I do have evidence if anyone needs it.

Oh, and I had 5.4 spoiled to me by this person as well.

Not a great look for new players in the channel that's supposed to welcome them, for sure.

Yeah he also really likes picking on a select few of us as revenge I guess.

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Originally Posted by Rinia

Seconding this to confirm that it's a major issue. Due to rules, I don't think there's a single piece of evidence that I personally have that can be posted to the forums, however. Almost every single piece contains vulgarities, slurs, etc. I've reported him at one point and at least according to word of mouth, know of at least ten others who have claimed to do the same. He's obviously abusing free trial features in order to do this, as it's always sprouts trolling (very obviously) in place of his main. (Though his main was the initial troll until he mysteriously disappeared for around a month), though now that they're back, they're back with a vengeance and attacking those who have kicked him in the past. At this point the only way for GMs to even deal with him would be an IP ban, and that's only if he hasn't been smart enough to use a VPN. Either way, posting in hopes somehow it helps visibility so the GMs can (hopefully) do something about it.

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Are you saying his main is back? If so it sounds like they haven't perma banned with character deletion yet. Obviously he could still create trials, but at least that would be a real punishment.

I wish they'd take this more seriously. It's been quite a while this has been going on, and it's always extremely disruptive and also constant. Whoever is doing this clearly has something wrong with them mentally and needs help that can't be found here, but it's absolutely not any of our responsibilities to deal with it.

For the love of god, please, some GM, SE, whatever; IP ban this guy, permanently, and the mentor that keeps adding him in permanently as well because obviously someone else is in on it if they aren't already multi-clienting. It really shouldn't be that hard, it isn't something that requires further deliberation or evidence, it's all happening in front of everyone's eyes and its completely insane that it hasn't already happened yet. If you ban the people who add him to novice network, they'll have to become mentors all over again and that's not something you can do at the drop of a hat, it'd be at least long enough for this psycho to either get bored or give people a week or more of peace before he gives up or tries and gets banned a second or third time.

Like, I know you guys log IPs. There's even a login history you can access from the mogstation. It definitely cannot be that hard to just ban him and the person he's collaborating with permanently so it stops.

I don't buy this. If someone harasses you at all in this game and you report them they get warned or banned very promptly. How do I know this? I was personally handed a warning for a couple of choice words a single time.

Are u not in aether novice networks? This has been a continuous issue for a week now. They make trial accounts so even if they get banned they just use a new one presumably

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Originally Posted by Reap00

I don't buy this. If someone harasses you at all in this game and you report them they get warned or banned very promptly. How do I know this? I was personally handed a warning for a couple of choice words a single time.

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This person keeps making free trial alts, so banning them doesn't even accomplish anything.

They've also showed up on our server multiple times now.

He has been doing this for months. He has had many, MANY reports filed against him. He still has not been banned. So for some reason, in his case, he is able to harass tons of people and get away with it.

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Originally Posted by Reap00

I don't buy this. If someone harasses you at all in this game and you report them they get warned or banned very promptly. How do I know this? I was personally handed a warning for a couple of choice words a single time.

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Here is my report history, all stemming from this one guy's spamming.

https://imgur.com/jYP8waJ

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Originally Posted by Reap00

I don't buy this. If someone harasses you at all in this game and you report them they get warned or banned very promptly. How do I know this? I was personally handed a warning for a couple of choice words a single time.

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Well, you should believe it, because it's happening. I don't know anyone else in this thread personally. It's just this one, very persistent insane person who somehow managed to afford a computer and is afforded the priviledge of completely wasting their own time at the expense of everyone else.

They make alts with random or targeted names, their mentor friend (whoever it is has kept quiet or pretended to not be that person) invites them to the novice network and they spam racial slurs, profanity, etc, via macro; then leave before they can get kicked so they can rejoin whenever without the 30 minute ban. Even if you catch them, they just make another alt. They aren't getting their account locked, all anyone who's reported him has received is a "we're investigating" but what the hell is there left to investigate? Just ban his IP, account, and the same for person who he's working with; it shouldn't be that hard. One single complete racist gone isn't going to put them out of business. There's 0 reason to deliberate further or whether or not this psychopath and his friend should be allowed to play the game with everyone else.

Just adding my quick two cents as well. This has been on-going across Aether for much longer than I feel it should be at this point given the frequency and severity of it. I've sent in multiple reports and while that's like the... proper procedure, it's so time consuming to do over and over and over and over and over while we try to get rid of this guy or force him to make a new acct. It has a lot of the mentors getting frustrated/tired, probably freaks out a bunch of our poor Sprouts and it's just a bad look all around. It's just getting worse and worse and more vile and disgusting as it goes on with him flipping from slurs to saying things near pedophilic. Reporting people on PS4 is a pain in the arse and while I will absolutely KEEP going to lengths to get rid of this guy I'm just sick of it. This shouldn't be happening.

Either a Mentor friend is helping him do this, or he's hopping until an invite-spammy Mentor gets him. If it's the SAME Mentor, then they need to be neutered or banned alongside him. Every time I file a report they already HAVE so many reports that I don't get an actual GM response and that's completely sad. This person is bothering so many people so wide-spread, and it's still happening. They're posting things like "GMS can't do shit", "can't kick me", and just generally being taunting about getting away with this, stealing people's names or making the name close enough to an existing user to confuse people or potentially get them blamed. Enough is enough already. This goes beyond harassment and disrespect, this is complete and utter malice, with no job or hobby to boot and it's disruptive. It completely wrecks my chatlogs to the point where I had to move Novice to a separate chat channel so I could still keep up with chat while not completely losing my ability to help moderate my FC or help them as well.

I may play it off as a joke in the NN, but it is just annoying to me as I'm sure it is to every single Mentor and Sprout across Aether. This guy needs to be stopped, IP banned, whatever it takes.

Novice Network being toxic? No! It can't be! :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Novice Network being toxic? No! It can't be! :rolleyes:

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It's not the normal toxicity. This is above and beyond, at least each message telling mentors the c-word, telling them to suck his d***, using references to pedophilia, racial slurs, homophobic and transphobic language, etc. Now have it been happening for a week. Welcome to Aether!

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Novice Network being toxic? No! It can't be! :rolleyes:

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Honestly, at least on Jenova, we sometimes have a few elitist or braggy Mentors here or there but for the most part it's incredibly lax and chill. Maybe that's not the case everywhere, but that's what I've observed so far.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Novice Network being toxic? No! It can't be! :rolleyes:

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Being unhelpful isn't quite on the same level as being a racist spammer or targeted harassment IMO.

Apparently, the troll has 18 accounts and 40 characters.

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Originally Posted by YuzuyuVolanti

Just adding my quick two cents as well. This has been on-going across Aether for much longer than I feel it should be at this point given the frequency and severity of it. I've sent in multiple reports and while that's like the... proper procedure, it's so time consuming to do over and over and over and over and over while we try to get rid of this guy or force him to make a new acct. It has a lot of the mentors getting frustrated/tired, probably freaks out a bunch of our poor Sprouts and it's just a bad look all around. It's just getting worse and worse and more vile and disgusting as it goes on with him flipping from slurs to saying things near pedophilic. Reporting people on PS4 is a pain in the arse and while I will absolutely KEEP going to lengths to get rid of this guy I'm just sick of it. This shouldn't be happening.

Either a Mentor friend is helping him do this, or he's hopping until an invite-spammy Mentor gets him. If it's the SAME Mentor, then they need to be neutered or banned alongside him. Every time I file a report they already HAVE so many reports that I don't get an actual GM response and that's completely sad. This person is bothering so many people so wide-spread, and it's still happening. They're posting things like "GMS can't do shit", "can't kick me", and just generally being taunting about getting away with this, stealing people's names or making the name close enough to an existing user to confuse people or potentially get them blamed. Enough is enough already. This goes beyond harassment and disrespect, this is complete and utter malice, with no job or hobby to boot and it's disruptive. It completely wrecks my chatlogs to the point where I had to move Novice to a separate chat channel so I could still keep up with chat while not completely losing my ability to help moderate my FC or help them as well.

I may play it off as a joke in the NN, but it is just annoying to me as I'm sure it is to every single Mentor and Sprout across Aether. This guy needs to be stopped, IP banned, whatever it takes.

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His original character (if it who I think it is base don who he targets by name on Turtle) was a Craft Mentor, and disappeared for 3 months after the last flurry of reports (I suspect a temp ban). If you search the character ID (vs the name), it's active again with a character name change too.

I strongly suspect he's now keeping that main "Clean" and using it to invite all the toss away trial accounts you uses to spam and harass.

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Originally Posted by Chinsuko

His original character (if it who I think it is base don who he targets by name on Turtle) was a Craft Mentor, and disappeared for 3 months after the last flurry of reports (I suspect a temp ban). If you search the character ID (vs the name), it's active again with a character name change too.

I strongly suspect he's now keeping that main "Clean" and using it to invite all the toss away trial accounts you uses to spam and harass.

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That's complete and utter garbage. I hope they get him, I'm so sick of seeing this day in and day out >.<

One of his targets came to Jenova to apologize earlier and explain and I just feel so terrible for them.

How bout using the blacklist. That should resolve the problem sufficiently.

I would also like to add my voice- it's 6:07pm pst and they continue to post inappropriate stuff in the novice network. I agree- it's not a great look to the new players, hoping this is reviewed and rectified as soon as possible. Thank you for all you do!

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Originally Posted by Chinsuko

His original character (if it who I think it is base don who he targets by name on Turtle) was a Craft Mentor, and disappeared for 3 months after the last flurry of reports (I suspect a temp ban). If you search the character ID (vs the name), it's active again with a character name change too.

I strongly suspect he's now keeping that main "Clean" and using it to invite all the toss away trial accounts you uses to spam and harass.

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Whether the mentor in question is keeping quiet or talking as if he's not responsible for it, I wish them the worst and I hope they get IP banned as well as their friend, losing any and all account progress they've made so far permanently. They've gone completely beyond unnecessary, whether theyre doing it for fun or they have some kind of ridiculous opinion about mentors or the novice network as a whole, or its more targeted; they just need to go. People like that are not welcome here and shouldn't be anywhere.

About using a blacklist - it won't work with his methods because he creates a new character almost every time he spams.

Keep blacklisting and reporting. You could also just ignore the person and move on with your day.

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Originally Posted by Reap00

How bout using the blacklist. That should resolve the problem sufficiently.

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Blacklist doesn't work because they come into the chat every time with new accounts.

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Originally Posted by Reap00

Keep blacklisting and reporting. You could also just ignore the person and move on with your day.

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Oh! That's such a great idea! Why didn't think about that before? You should really write a book, you have such really good, obscure ideas that no one else would've thought about before. Amazing.

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Originally Posted by Reap00

How bout using the blacklist. That should resolve the problem sufficiently.

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Since they've created about 6 different characters within 1.5 hours to spam the Novice Network, I don't believe it's nearly as effective as you expect it to be. And again, they claim to have 18 accounts and 40 characters *so far*.

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Originally Posted by Reap00

Keep blacklisting and reporting. You could also just ignore the person and move on with your day.

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Those of us who are familiar with the problem ignore it the best we can, but sprouts who aren't aware get confused and we end up having to explain the problem. Especially because the macros they use to spam the chat with are multiple paragraphs worth of derogatory remarks, it's hard to ignore and move on.

Yes, his main is back. And I cannot share the name due to forum rules, but I had bookmarked him a while back during his little "off time" (whether it was a ban or just a break, none of us truly know), and as of the last few days, he has apparently changed his main's username as well. Multiple of us on NN had seen him online under his old alias just days ago (we assume that's how all his sprouts are getting into NN in the first place), so this much is a recent development that a few of us just happened to notice when someone couldn't find him on the lodestone.

EDIT: I don't really know how to use the OF, apparently I meant to quote respond to someone, but failed, lol.

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Originally Posted by Reap00

Big troll thread here from a bunch of new posters. Nothing to see here. Moving on.

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Sorry I haven't had to use the forums until this problem wasn't getting solved after an entire week.

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Originally Posted by Reap00

How bout using the blacklist. That should resolve the problem sufficiently.

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It does not when he makes a new account to do it every single time. He can have 3 new characters up over a period of an hour or two. It'll work up until he makes a new one.

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Originally Posted by AstraBraifort

Sorry I haven't had to use the forums until this problem wasn't getting solved after an entire week.

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I literally made an account specifically to post because this has gotten to the point where I'm fed up with it. Multiple reports, blacklists, still happening.