question to people about pet Jobs

so i had about a week ago done the final fight for Dragoon. and it has been plaguing me that the Dragoon in that fight had a Drake. So my question is how come people say they want a pet job but some of those people are the people how absolutely detested Drg having a pet?

So i would like to suggest adding the pet and hear me out on this. Why not a dmg reduction to drg IF they have pet out not bad enough to make drg suck but enough so that the pet Drake could make up for and not so overpowered that other jobs are rendered useless.

Now i say IF the pet was out meaning you dont get the Dmg reduction if you dont call the Drake. So people who dont want Drg to have the pet dont have to use it. Or in the future make a quest to get the pet that they dont have to do.

Please sign if you agree

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...et!-%28poll%29

The WAR had multiple pet Birds. Should WAR get pet birds?

Did you not view any of the cutscenes or listen to any of the lore from the DRG quests?

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Originally Posted by KoujiGeki

So my question is how come people say they want a pet job but some of those people are the people how absolutely detested Drg having a pet?

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Because Dragoon was only a pet job in Final Fantasy XI? There were many other Final Fantasy games before eleven, hence the eleven. Perhaps some people preferred the image of the dragoon as a loner, to eleven's baby wyvern tamer?

Those same people needn't be inherently against pet jobs as a whole.

is the warrior trained to be a beastmaster? tis a joke. I didnt finish the war quests yet didnt know that. I know that 11 was the only ff to give Dragoon a pet. but still why not have given them a pet in this game to? What is so bad about them having a pet?

idk... it would be ok if is optional, ...

and according to the drg Lore, yes you can get a drake as a pet drg, but only if you turn evil and submit to Nidhogg. <_<

if that were the case that be awesome id go evil if SE gave us that option

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Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce

idk... it would be ok if is optional, ...

and according to the drg Lore, yes you can get a drake as a pet drg, but only if you turn evil and submit to Nidhogg. <_<

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Well looks like I am swearing allegiance to Niddhog and fully submit myself.

I'm Going to kill Nidhogg and get me my AF lance. You guys can play with your pet. :p

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Originally Posted by Andrien

I'm Going to kill Nidhogg and get me my AF lance. You guys can play with your pet. :p

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Any fool can use a weapon, only a man can tame a beast! :3

man, we had like a million of these polls pop up already. ok more like 8 but thats more than should ever come up on one topic lol. I do want pet classes to be introduced but do not want drg to become a pet class. I can keep my thoughts separate like that.

can i as you why though? its not even like the old wyvern they are god damn awesome Drakes that glow as they are about to do there elemental breath.

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Originally Posted by KoujiGeki

can i as you why though? its not even like the old wyvern they are god damn awesome Drakes that glow as they are about to do there elemental breath.

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I already answered your question on the first page. Final Fantasy Eleven, was the eleventh entry in the series. Dragoon had already been characterized long before this, often as a lone knight who deals a boatload of melee damage with spears.

Flash forward to FFXI where Dragoons went through years and years of being second class citizens because SE couldn't balance them properly with their pet, and they had to deal with obnoxious things like their pet dying to AoEs, etc.

Even if the pet were balanced properly, managing a pet is it's own thing, and something some people may not want to deal with, and again, it changes the feeling of the class dramatically. I don't want Dragoon to have a pet, but I can understand why people do. It's fine to disagree, but is it really so hard to understand why the other side of the argument feels the way they do?

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Originally Posted by Ramsey

I already answered your question on the first page. Final Fantasy Eleven, was the eleventh entry in the series. Dragoon had already been characterized long before this, often as a lone knight who deals a boatload of melee damage with spears.

Flash forward to FFXI where Dragoons went through years and years of being second class citizens because SE couldn't balance them properly with their pet, and they had to deal with obnoxious things like their pet dying to AoEs, etc.

Even if the pet were balanced properly, managing a pet is it's own thing, and something some people may not want to deal with, and again, it changes the feeling of the class dramatically. I don't want Dragoon to have a pet, but I can understand why people do. It's fine to disagree, but is it really so hard to understand why the other side of the argument feels the way they do?

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Im sorry the why was for Volsung. but ya i do remember that in 11. But also in 11 its why i loved it It was something new.It wasnt perfect yes but nothing new is ever perfect . (14 itself lol)and if you have recently played 11 they are far from what ther origianlly were. I think it would fit perfectly in this game. and like i suggested make it OPTIONAL so if ppl dont want it they dont have to.

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Originally Posted by KoujiGeki

Im sorry the why was for Volsung. but ya i do remember that in 11. But also in 11 its why i loved it It was something new.It wasnt perfect yes but nothing new is ever perfect . (14 itself lol)and if you have recently played 11 they are far from what ther origianlly were. I think it would fit perfectly in this game. and like i suggested make it OPTIONAL so if ppl dont want it they dont have to.

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like i said. you have to be evil and let Nidhogg control your body to have a pet drake. <_< didnt you listen to the lore? >_> Nidhogg is evil dragon. u need to kill it or be control by it <_<

wth is wrong with you!!! >:[

if i could let him control me i totally would

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Originally Posted by KoujiGeki

if i could let him control me i totally would

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then we other dragoon have to kill you then! end of story for Kouji Geki, the Nidhogg Slave! xD

No thanks, I prefer the old school DRG over FF11's sad excuse.

Keep it as it is thanks.

Sadly I came in here expecting a discussion about BST and SMN but nope it was a DRG thread in disguise.

Optional?

Option 1: be a sucky melee with a cute pet dragon consolation prize.

Option 2: be a normal melee that gets invited to parties.

Hmm. What to choose?

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Originally Posted by Wynn

Optional?

Option 1: be a sucky melee with a cute pet dragon consolation prize.

Option 2: be a normal melee that gets invited to parties.

Hmm. What to choose?

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DRG is a sucky melee already that they need to fix, DRG should be the critical hit master but from what i see WAR is doing more critical damage than DRG.
so i vote for the pet

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Originally Posted by LazyBarakat

DRG is a sucky melee already that they need to fix, DRG should be the critical hit master but from what i see WAR is doing more critical damage than DRG.
so i vote for the pet

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single target? no bro, war is not outdamaging me. multitargets? yea war is. War also (sorry for being honest) has way too much survivability. It makes pld look sad

Why do you want that compromise on yourself?

Strong damage dealer with strong pet = broken

Strong damage dealer with weak pet = lowers frame rate, and makes lag.

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Originally Posted by KoujiGeki

I think it would fit perfectly in this game.

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I strongly disagree, as every lore source specifies dragons as enemies. Ishgard fights them, the Dragoons (Dragon Knights) are knights that specialize in fighting and slaying dragons.

There is nothing that supports the Dragoons having any sort of Dragon type pet. As far as the final DRG fight, there is also nothing that says the Drake was Wyrmblood's pet. For all we know, it was a vessel for Nidhogg or sent by Nidhogg to help Wyrmblood.

Also, the balancing issues, but others are hitting that hard already.