Craft in your house or an inn room

Just learned this the hard way. Craft in your house or an inn room. Otherwise there are people that stand around in cities and look in the box at what people craft, then immediately go to the market board to see if they sold it so they can sell it cheaper.

I don't know if these are bots, but it just happened. I crafted a Uraeus Skirt. Put it on the MB. Someone else crafts a skirt right after me, goes and puts it cheaper. Literally same town, area, and marketbaord near.

It's a competitive market. Players watch what others are selling then try to sell the same things. This is especially true of new players trying to learn the market.

A bot isn't going to copy you. They're also much more likely to be already in an apartment doing their crafting so any behavior that gives them away as a bot won't be seen by other players to report.

Saying "Literally same town, area, and marketbaord near" doesn't add any weight to your claim and makes me wonder if you know how the marketboard works in this game. All marketboards display the same listings regardless of location. The city state flag on a listing indicates where the selling retainer is stationed, not where the player is.

If you watched the player craft the skirt or saw the name of a player standing near you match the name of the Maker's Signature on the lowest price listing, stating that would add weight to your claim.

It still doesn't matter though. You're going to need to get used to competition, especially on something like a Uraeus Skirt that's popular for glamour since it's cosmetic and not job-locked. I'm willing to bet you left out the fact that you listed your skirt lower than the 15+ already listed. Doesn't that ultimately make you just as bad as the player who undercut you?

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

It's a competitive market. Players watch what others are selling then try to sell the same things. This is especially true of new players trying to learn the market.

A bot isn't going to copy you. They're also much more likely to be already in an apartment doing their crafting so any behavior that gives them away as a bot won't be seen by other players to report.

Saying "Literally same town, area, and marketbaord near" doesn't add any weight to your claim and makes me wonder if you know how the marketboard works in this game. All marketboards display the same listings regardless of location. The city state flag on a listing indicates where the selling retainer is stationed, not where the player is.

If you watched the player craft the skirt or saw the name of a player standing near you match the name of the Maker's Signature on the lowest price listing, stating that would add weight to your claim.

It still doesn't matter though. You're going to need to get used to competition, especially on something like a Uraeus Skirt that's popular for glamour since it's cosmetic and not job-locked. I'm willing to bet you left out the fact that you listed your skirt lower than the 15+ already listed. Doesn't that ultimately make you just as bad as the player who undercut you?

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First of all, no need to be sarcastic about it.
Second of all, I'm not complaining about the undercutting. It happens. I'm saying looking at what people are synthesizing in the chatbox since it announces it, is lower than undercutting. Crafting in room/house prevents at least that.

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Originally Posted by Nekaru_Infitima

is lower than undercutting.

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The market board is no holds barred PVP. Nothing is "low" at all, except for cheating.

I craft in my house, Gridiana or Eulmore. Use to craft mostly in Limsa but too many players around willing to stand on you lol

People just ruin MMOs don't they!

As you learned in game, something valuable to craft in a private area, you'll learn in the forums its much the same.

You posted something helpful, and logical, and people respond with sarcasm and insults, and they get their comments "liked."

So continue to learn to maneuver around these people, the positive you can take away, is as you saw with crafting, there is a simple answer! I hope you continue to have fun.

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Originally Posted by Daniolaut

people respond with sarcasm and insults, and they get their comments "liked."

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People responded with additional lessons to be learned about the player economy and got upvoted for being helpful. OP took it personally for whatever reason and should not have their pointless frailty reinforced.

Isn’t there an option to not put that info in chat? Or is it only not visible to me. Whatever I craft doesn’t show up in chat for me so I’m unsure if it shows for others.

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Originally Posted by Eclipse12187

Isn’t there an option to not put that info in chat? Or is it only not visible to me. Whatever I craft doesn’t show up in chat for me so I’m unsure if it shows for others.

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You can turn on/off both own and others' synthesis messages, but disabling own synthesis messages just stops it from appearing in that chat window. It doesn't prevent other people with it enabled from seeing it.

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Originally Posted by Daniolaut

You posted something helpful

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How is it helpful when others are still going to end up making the same items to sell despite you hiding in your housing because those items can be profitable?

The OP is talking about an item that had more than 15 listings by 11 different sellers for a glamour item that was selling 3-4 times a day - I hopped over to Zalera to check the MB before I made my post. The OP offered no information that would prove they were being copied. It easily could have been one of the normal sellers for the item relisting after their last one sold.

Strangely enough, I didn't even see a skirt with the OP's name listed as the Maker's Signature on the Zalera MB so it must have sold regardless of the undercut. Why whine about something that still sold?

They need to learn how things work, not live in some sheltered world where they think everything will happen as they want.

Personally, I don't care if someone copies me to sell the same thing. I think competition is good for the market. It keeps prices reasonable compared to the effort needed to make the item. It encourages sellers to seek out new parts of the market that might not have enough supply compared to demand. If someone asks me for ideas on what to sell, I'm more than happy to share what I know and give examples of what I'm usually selling. I can always change what I'm crafting if I feel competition has devalued the item too much.

I might do most my crafting in housing but not because I'm paranoid someone is going to copy me. I do it because I hate people jumping up and down on me or spamming emotes at me while I craft. I got fed up with that sort of thing quickly when I first started playing.