Coven Weapons

Does anyone know of a way currently to obtain the old Coven Weapons that were obtained through pre-rework Diadem, or are they just lost forever?

I believe they are gone, along with a move away from randomised stat aetherial gear in general.

Do ARR leveling dungeons still drop aetherial gear? I don't do them enough to confirm but I know 5.3 added standardised gear to all of the old dungeons eg Aurum Cuirass, Dzemael Spear, etc.

To those who don't know, Coven weapons was something they tried at the very end of Heavensward, a sort of raid area within Diadem which had a low chance to drop superior weapons.

And I'm sad to see the remnants of those ideas fade away. More people these days seem to be coming around to the idea that it would be nice to have a surprise factor in the game, a rare chance to get epic loot, something out of the ordinary occuring. Nothing is worth anything because we all have the same stuff and nobody stands out.
And yes, raiders using parsers and uploading their parses to external leaderboards didn't like rare weapons having the highest stat potential. Well whatever, there's ultimate now and that has an item level cap/sync, so you still all get to be identical and compete fairly on the external parser game.

So yeah I'd like an alternate branch to the game that incorporates rng loot more and farming for rare things that have some value and consequence. Eureka had some of that, but the rarest items like cassie earrings only boosted you inside Eureka, which is now irrelevant because it was side content for a single expansion and discontinued.

You still get aetherial accessories and belts from old dungeons, but I'm not too sure how far their random stats go, being accessories and all.

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Originally Posted by Rufalus

I believe they are gone, along with a move away from randomised stat aetherial gear in general.

Do ARR leveling dungeons still drop aetherial gear? I don't do them enough to confirm but I know 5.3 added standardised gear to all of the old dungeons eg Aurum Cuirass, Dzemael Spear, etc.

To those who don't know, Coven weapons was something they tried at the very end of Heavensward, a sort of raid area within Diadem which had a low chance to drop superior weapons.

And I'm sad to see the remnants of those ideas fade away. More people these days seem to be coming around to the idea that it would be nice to have a surprise factor in the game, a rare chance to get epic loot, something out of the ordinary occuring. Nothing is worth anything because we all have the same stuff and nobody stands out.
And yes, raiders using parsers and uploading their parses to external leaderboards didn't like rare weapons having the highest stat potential. Well whatever, there's ultimate now and that has an item level cap/sync, so you still all get to be identical and compete fairly on the external parser game.

So yeah I'd like an alternate branch to the game that incorporates rng loot more and farming for rare things that have some value and consequence. Eureka had some of that, but the rarest items like cassie earrings only boosted you inside Eureka, which is now irrelevant because it was side content for a single expansion and discontinued.

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Gotcha, quite interesting and well rather uselss that they even bothered adding Coven DNC/GNB weapons, knowing that they would be un-obtainable, especially after they re-did Diadem. How rather unforunate.

I don't know about gunbreaker and dancer, but the rest of the coven weapon models are available as PVP weapons I believe.

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Originally Posted by Plasma711

Gotcha, quite interesting and well rather uselss that they even bothered adding Coven DNC/GNB weapons, knowing that they would be un-obtainable, especially after they re-did Diadem. How rather unforunate.

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Technically they were obtainable between 5.0 -> 5.1 which was when the diadem was closed, if I remember correctly and based on some lore forum posts I found.
I have a feeling they might have had plans to keep methods to obtain them in the new re-vamped Diadem they were going to do with the Ishgard restoration, but decided it wasn't worth the effort since the Coven weapons are only i280, were locked behind insane RNG, and on top of all of that, the Coven GNB shares its model with the Doman iron Gunblade, afaik.

Maybe they could add Replica Coven weapons to go along with the Replica Sky Pirate and Sky Rat gear. No stats, purely for glamour. There are still two more stages of Ishgard Restoration to go, after all.

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Originally Posted by MariaArvana

Technically they were obtainable between 5.0 -> 5.1 which was when the diadem was closed, if I remember correctly and based on some lore forum posts I found.
I have a feeling they might have had plans to keep methods to obtain them in the new re-vamped Diadem they were going to do with the Ishgard restoration, but decided it wasn't worth the effort since the Coven weapons are only i280, were locked behind insane RNG, and on top of all of that, the Coven GNB shares its model with the Doman iron Gunblade, afaik.

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Technically yeah, but they were still practically un-obtainable. No one ever qued for Diadem, and even if they did the shear amount of time it'd take for you to actually get it wouldnt be nye impossible. Hell it was nye impossible when Diadem first came out XD

Are you talking about that huge Emergency duty that would spawn that almost no one knew how to do, that usually became impossible to complete after about 5 mins in that randomly dropped a pink weapon to 1-3 people out of 100+ participants that may or not be a weapon for your actual class?

While it might have been nice to have one back then, I'm not really missing that content. I think out of about 20 runs, we were able to collectively complete the Emergency duty twice. It's why the similar big duty in Eureka became a Discord only lockout. As someone stated, the models for those weapons exist in other forms but who knows. Perhaps if we ask nicely they'll turn up in Ishagard Restoration like a large number of the other rewards for diadem have.

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Originally Posted by Stepjam

I don't know about gunbreaker and dancer, but the rest of the coven weapon models are available as PVP weapons I believe.

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I can confirm this. Coven weaponry are the Heavensward 180 category from the PvP Arms vendors.

You know they could also just add them to what is obtainable through the retainers. My retainers are always bringing me back super out dated weapons, just throw em in there.

It'd be a nice break from all the fish.

Wolf Mark Exchange, Beastlord Gear ilvl 180

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Originally Posted by RamzaLowshadow

Wolf Mark Exchange, Beastlord Gear ilvl 180

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