Collusion question

Antagonize and Sentinel increase enmity generated from actions while the effect is active....
Maddening potions do the same thing.

If I pop a maddening potion, Antagonize, Sentinel and then Collusion a black mage that does flare... is the enmity I generate from their Flare increased by Antagonize, Sentinel and Maddening Potion?

I can only say that you won't get an emnity bonus from Sentinel on War.

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Originally Posted by KumaAkuma

I can only say that you won't get an emnity bonus from Sentinel on War.

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I think Sentinel Might get less of a boost to enmity on WAR (Based on class affinity, not sure) but it still increases enmity

With traits being here, Affinity might not exist at all any more though

At any rate, the enmity boost is not from a trait... it is part of the base ability so I don't know why WAR wouldn't get that part of it

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/107...=1#post5128457

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Originally Posted by KumaAkuma

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/107...=1#post5128457

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That said Sentinel works for damage but not abilities.....
So it could potentially still work with Collusion

Collusion is an ability.
/facepalm

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Originally Posted by Filtiarne

Collusion is an ability.
/facepalm

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well thats my question... it is an "ability" but it transfers "damage"
So it seems like there is a chance it will be increased by sentinel... and Antagonize also increases ability enmity, which is the original question......
remember that time you facepalmed for nothing?

But its not your damage. Just take the collusion enmity from an excruciate thundara combo by a blm. Then voke then use sentinel then use antagonize for x1.65 enmity then use your skull sunder combo for x1.75 of damage dealt on top of that and be happy with that. Its more than enough.

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Originally Posted by Filtiarne

But its not your damage. Just take the collusion enmity from an excruciate thundara combo by a blm. Then voke then use sentinel then use antagonize for x1.65 enmity then use your skull sunder combo for x1.75 of damage dealt on top of that and be happy with that. Its more than enough.

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I wasn't really looking for tips... it was a question of curiosity really....
You're not curious to know if Antagonize increases hate generated from collusioned damage?

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Originally Posted by Rydin

That said Sentinel works for damage but not abilities.....
So it could potentially still work with Collusion

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No that said that the emnity party of Sentinel doesn't work on other classes like War. So it's useless to add it to your rotation for the sake of gaining more eminty.

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Originally Posted by KumaAkuma

No that said that the emnity party of Sentinel doesn't work on other classes like War. So it's useless to add it to your rotation for the sake of gaining more eminty.

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Im not trying to be a douche but I don't see that

Sentinel applies an enmity bonus to damage dealt
Antagonize applies an enmity bonus to damage dealt and abilities

I'm not sure what the argument is?

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Originally Posted by carraway

Sentinel applies an enmity bonus to damage dealt
Antagonize applies an enmity bonus to damage dealt and abilities

I'm not sure what the argument is?

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My question was just "Does that bonus apply to Cullusioned damage?"
And those guys seem to think Sentinel doesn't give the enmity bonus unless you are on GLD/PLD
Which is irrelevant to the original question and kind of a derail, honestly...
But the question in the OP is still valid

Antagonize and Maddening Potions should apply to the enmity bonus from Collusion.

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Originally Posted by carraway

Antagonize and Maddening Potions should apply to the enmity bonus from Collusion.

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thank you... Richard is still my favorite but thanks

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Originally Posted by Rydin

thank you... Richard is still my favorite but thanks

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http://i.imgur.com/67V3n.png

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Originally Posted by carraway

http://i.imgur.com/67V3n.png

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touché sir

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Originally Posted by carraway

Sentinel applies an enmity bonus to damage dealt
Antagonize applies an enmity bonus to damage dealt and abilities

I'm not sure what the argument is?

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The argument is that it was proven Sentinel is currently bugged and does not provide an emnity bonus on other classes. Which he rejects.

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Originally Posted by KumaAkuma

The argument is that it was proven Sentinel is currently bugged and does not provide an emnity bonus on other classes. Which he rejects.

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Originally Posted by Stanislaw

- Sentinel's enmity bonus seems to be broken for abilities, but works fine for damage.

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Am I missing something here?

damage reduction not hate -_-

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Originally Posted by KumaAkuma

damage reduction not hate -_-

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I don't even....