Miqo'te

What can you tell me about Miqo'te society?

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That Miqo'te you posted is best Miqo'te (I don't have much to add really).

If I remember right that a lot of Miqo'te Women mate with one male within the tribe? (Correct me if I'm wrong on that).

2b butt / limsa lominsa.

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Originally Posted by Kaliesto

That Miqo'te you posted is best Miqo'te (I don't have much to add really).

If I remember right that a lot of Miqo'te Women mate with one male within the tribe? (Correct me if I'm wrong on that).

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That's only the Seekers of the Sun (Keepers of the Moon have more traditional family units in their tribe, but still matriarchal, in that the males generally stay home to raise the children, making the Moonkeepers rather like the mithra from FFXI).

Sunseekers restrict breeding rights for males to a single member or (if the tribe is particularly large) several members who have earned the privelage of the title of "nuhn", which involves challenging the current holder of the title in combat (and winning). All other males are given the title of "tia" which becomes their surname. Being a nuhn does not necessarily equate to "chief" or leader of the tribe though, although they still seem to have certain political sway in the tribe, Sunseeker tribes are still fundamentally matriarchal.

The Lore forum is probably a better place to ask this question though.

So Sunseekers are like a clan of lions?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/...pg?imwidth=450
...and the moon ones are like drow?
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You would be well served to browse the Lore forums.

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Originally Posted by SilverObi

You would be well served to browse the Lore forums.

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I guess it's buried in there somewhere, someday I may sort through it and see if I can find what I'm looking for, possibly get a discussion going on it if the thread isn't out of date. Sorry to bother...

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Originally Posted by Angelov-Mercy

I guess it's buried in there somewhere, someday I may sort through it and see if I can find what I'm looking for, possibly get a discussion going on it if the thread isn't out of date. Sorry to bother...

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No bother and no reason to apologize I was just trying to point you in the direction of where you'll most likely find answers to any questions you have. A lot of cultural info is already pinned, more specific topics could probably be found with keyword searches or just making a topic in there asking. The loremongers love sharing and love when people show interest :)

In both subsets of the race, far more females are born than males.

Sun seekers are a patriarchal society. Their names begin with Letter which stands for what their tribe hunts, so there's an A tribe through Z tribe.

Each tribe has one (more if the tribe is large) breeding male, they are referred to as the Nunh, and all non breeding males are referred to as Tia, a Tia may become a nunh by proving himself stronger and more capable than the current Nunh, and a Nunh may become a Tia after losing such a contest to another Tia. Being a Nunh does not make you the chief of the tribe, it just means you are allowed to reproduce. Only the strongest are allowed to be the Nunh to ensure the strongest offspring.

Sun seeker women are the hunters and gatherers of the tribe, they schedule couplings with the Nunh if they are inclined to reproduce. A sun seeker woman's surname is her father's forename. So if her father was Y'rhul Nunh, her name would be something like Y'shtolah Rhul.


Moon keeper society is much different, as they are a matriarchal society. The same rules apply, there are much fewer males than female.

A moon keeper tribe has a focus on family and community. The women raise the children and keep everything within their tribe running, while the men are extremely antisocial by nature, and spend most of their time hunting alone. They return to the tribe to bring back what they hunt, and sometimes mate, though there are no rules on who mates in a keeper tribe. A moon keeper woman would tell you that moon keeper males are best in small amounts anyway, so they aren't bothered by their general absence most of the time.

Moon keeper women are given their own names, and family names are passed down from the mother rather than the father. While moon keeper men are given their mother's name, along with a suffix to denote which son they are.

'a = 1st son
'to = 2nd son
'li = 3rd son
'sae = 4th son
'ra = 5th son
'ir = 6th son
'wo = 7th son
'ya = 8th son
'zi = 9th son
'tan = 10th son.

There are not more than this because it's incredibly unlikely that one moon keeper family will produce more than a couple of sons, but for example, if a male keeper has a mother named Sizha Epocan and two older brothers, his name would be Sizha'li Epocan

Edit: there's a lot of untrodden ground of mixed heritage Miqo'te. So the naming conventions are up in the air on that.

These sort of questions are great for the Lore forums. This question in particular has a lot of info in one of the stickied topics there: the race naming conventions thread.

If you're interested in knowing more about the lore of the game, that's the place to go!

This would probably go better in the lore tab. Also I think there's a stickied thread there about miqote society.

The encyclopedia is a pretty good place to take a look as well as the lore forums.

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Originally Posted by Averax

The women raise the children and keep everything within their tribe running, while the men are extremely antisocial by nature, and spend most of their time hunting alone. They return to the tribe to bring back what they hunt, and sometimes mate, though there are no rules on who mates in a keeper tribe. A moon keeper woman would tell you that moon keeper males are best in small amounts anyway, so they aren't bothered by their general absence most of the time.

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I think it's a bit more nuanced than that. There's contradictory statements made in-game and in the lore books which shows different elements of lore being written by different people who aren't necessarily talking to each other. Traditional moon keepers live in families of just the mother and her children and live in groups of 2-3 families who hunt together. There is an NPC that goes on to say that women tend to stay and take care of the family and ply other trades while the men show up every now and then with game. A different NPC says that moon keepers aren't raised with fathers at all. I'm more likely to believe the 2nd one since most moon keeper NPCs in the game are female hunters you can fight, and there's even a leve to supply a miqo'te woman with materials for her war paint. The men do tend to wander around, but there's no such thing as moon keeper "tribes", just family names, and there's nothing else that suggests that they do anything other than wander the forest on their own accord, not really beholden to a specific area.

But what is "traditional" for both sun seekers and moon keepers doesn't necessarily have to apply anyway, since a large number of miqo'te live in cities now and there hasn't been anything at all so far that mentions city miqo'te still practicing their tribal rules and going out to hunt and live in a rigid culture while also being thieves, dancers, pirates, etc. Even the J tribe who lives in a small town rather than a city has no nunh in sight and one of the miqo'te there falls in love with someone outside her race. Unlike the nearby M tribes, most of them aren't wearing "active" clothing and they are assimilated into hyur culture, which is how I think most are at this point.

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Originally Posted by Averax

'a = 1st son
'to = 2nd son
'li = 3rd son
'sae = 4th son
'ra = 5th son
'ir = 6th son
'wo = 7th son
'ya = 8th son
'zi = 9th son
'tan = 10th son.

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Considering they even bother to have names for the 10th son in a race where males are supposedly few in numbers, imagine how many daughters a moon keeper female may give birth to. 50? 100?

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Originally Posted by linayar

Considering they even bother to have names for the 10th son in a race where males are supposedly few in numbers, imagine how many daughters a moon keeper female may give birth to. 50? 100?

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It's a just in-case scenario. They don't actually expect anyone to have 10 sons. They barely expect one.

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Originally Posted by Averax

It's a just in-case scenario. They don't actually expect anyone to have 10 sons. They barely expect one.

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I'm sure it's rare, but being part of the lore, I'm sure it's happened in the past. You don't establish a 10th spot just in case when you barely expect one, and having daughters would not be so rare either way.

At the same time, I think males being rare by comparison should not mean males are rare to the point of barely expecting one. There should be enough to sustain a population of an entire race.