Thaumaturge to Black mage?

I'm new to FF, and I can't find an answer to this. Apologies in advance if this turns out to be a dumb question. What's the current way to go from Thaumaturge to Black mage? According to what I'm reading, the quest should become available in the Thaumaturge guild after completing the level 30 class quest. I've done that, currently at lvl 33, and 15 as archer as well, although I've read that that part doesn't matter any more.

Is there another prerequisite that I don't know about? This is a big enough game that I'm sure I could play for dozens more hours without stumbling across that knowledge. Thanks in advance for any help.

Did you also complete the level 20 main scenario quest, "Sylph Management"?

Indeed, the archer requirement is no longer irrelevant and is outdated information. You only need to be advanced far enough in the main scenario and have done your level 30 thaumaturge quest.

I could've sworn I had, but maybe that's it. I thought it was part of the main story quest, but I don't remember it now that I looked it up. I'll have to go back and check that NPC. Thanks.

Have you equipped your job stone? If you did your Job quest you should have it, but it doesn't equip automatically. You have to manually do it.

Sylph Management is the Job Quest gate, as previously stated. Once that's done, you'll get a quest in the Thaumaturge Guild that will end with you meeting the new NPC you'll be visiting for future quests.

When you get your Soul Crystal, you'll have to equip it manually, but you can save your gear set so that it stays on permanently unless you manually switch weapons.

Just in case you're overlooking the obvious, the quest doesn't come from the guildmaster but from the receptionist at the guild entrance.

Also after you do get the soul crystal you may have to redo your hot/cross bar... it makes one up when you equip any job

In regards to the point above, you can easily copy your THM hotbar(s) to your BLM.

i.e.
/hotbar copy THM 1 BLM 1

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Originally Posted by ScottDoom

In regards to the point above, you can easily copy your THM hotbar(s) to your BLM.

i.e.
/hotbar copy THM 1 BLM 1

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Is that for the cross bar too?!?!

Yes, the same except use /chotbar.

Thank you! I'm now going to go cry myself to sleep for all those times I wasted when I unlocked a new job and spent that time trying to fix everything manually.

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Originally Posted by ScottDoom

In regards to the point above, you can easily copy your THM hotbar(s) to your BLM.

i.e.
/hotbar copy THM 1 BLM 1

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Mind Blown! Thanks. That will make keeping my crafter bars more uniform!

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Mind Blown! Thanks. That will make keeping my crafter bars more uniform!

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Fun fact: You can even use this hotbar copy feature along with a few other macro commands to create a dynamic hotbar menu. I use it to save real estate space on my screen. This gif of an example of what you can do is not my set up, but it has a lot of the same features:
https://i.imgur.com/gAnegKK.gif

Thanks for all the replies, but the light bulb finally turned on in my head. The Black Mage isn't from the base game, is it? I feel so stupid.

I was going to buy the expansions later, and forgot that this might be part of an expansion. I was really hoping to wait for a sale on those...

Blackmage is one of the base jobs. The expansion jobs are Astrologian, Darkknight, Machinist for Heavensward, Stormblood is Redmage and Samurai, and for Shadowbringers its Dancer and Gunbreaker

Thanks for clarifying that, Rannie. This is a big sprawl of a game, and it's hard to sort all this out. THIS time I think I might have the answer. I've got to join a Grand Company and do at least one other quest before I get Sylph Management.

I'm doing enough muddling around and side quests that I'm lvl 35, but haven't gotten to that point in the Main Quest yet. So I'm getting confused when I see that it should happen around lvl 20.

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Thanks for clarifying that, Rannie. This is a big sprawl of a game, and it's hard to sort all this out. THIS time I think I might have the answer. I've got to join a Grand Company and do at least one other quest before I get Sylph Management.

I'm doing enough muddling around and side quests that I'm lvl 35, but haven't gotten to that point in the Main Quest yet. So I'm getting confused when I see that it should happen around lvl 20.

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yeah, for this game you want to delete the "do all the sidequests so you can progress the story" mentality from other MMOs from your brain. there's only a couple places you'll get stuck (44, 47, and a few times in each expansion). Sidequests are handy for leveling alt classes instead.

A very good resource to use are the two main fan supported Wiki's, they have all Job/Class quests listed, a very useful tool.


https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/C...ack_Mage_Quest
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...ck_mage_quests

I'm partial to consolegameswiki, I think it's laidout friendlier. The Quest Giver is Yayake {Ul'dah - Steps of Nald (x7,y12)} The 1st quest is "Taking the Black"

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Thanks for clarifying that, Rannie. This is a big sprawl of a game, and it's hard to sort all this out. THIS time I think I might have the answer. I've got to join a Grand Company and do at least one other quest before I get Sylph Management.

I'm doing enough muddling around and side quests that I'm lvl 35, but haven't gotten to that point in the Main Quest yet. So I'm getting confused when I see that it should happen around lvl 20.

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This seems to be a common confusion now that experience rewards have been boosted to the point that people are WELL above the minimum level for the main scenario quests, even without completing any side quests.

I would say, though, level in this game isn't really important anymore. The thing that matters is story progress, the game will keep you up to date on level, for the most part, by just naturally playing through. There's no need or reason to grind up additional levels since you'll be synced down to a lower level to do new content as you unlock it. And once you do get the expansions, you won't even be able to unlock new job skills in the 50-60 range until you progress the story far enough to be in Heavensward story quests (which are now part of the base game)

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Blackmage is one of the base jobs. The expansion jobs are Astrologian, Darkknight, Machinist for Heavensward, Stormblood is Redmage and Samurai, and for Shadowbringers its Dancer and Gunbreaker

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This is slightly incorrect. Heavensward got lumped into the main 2.0 expansion as of the last patch. Because of that, astrologian, dark knight, and machinist are also all now base game jobs, you just can't unlock them until you progress the main story far enough to get to where the quest giver is that enables you to play those jobs.

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yeah, for this game you want to delete the "do all the sidequests so you can progress the story" mentality from other MMOs from your brain. there's only a couple places you'll get stuck (44, 47, and a few times in each expansion). Sidequests are handy for leveling alt classes instead.

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I'm figuring that out, but as with WoW, they've got the leveling set so you just pop up in levels no matter what you do. I DID eventually figure out the second part of what you said. Naturally, I hate to leave '!' markers behind, especially when some of them give special rewards. But I finally figured out that I can just put on a different hat, and put that side experience towards crafting and gathering roles.

Thanks all, for the replies. You've been very helpful.