LET OUR ALTS BE HOUSE TENANTS or instanced housing!

Hello!
I'm requesting exactly what the title states.

Let our Alts be house tentants

With the new rules as is, we can only own 1 home per account, personal home that is. WITH that in mind, let our ALTS be tenants. Why're we limited to just 1 home per account if our alt cannot even use it. What is the point at that point?

I hope this is taken into consideration, that or instanced housing option. Imagine, being given the /choice/ of instanced housing that you can CHOOSE to use if you wish. Plots still available but for those who /don't care/ for plots, give us instanced plots!

SE should just let us add our own alts to our friends list.

This would allow us to make our alts tenants, as well as send our alts letters for gil/item transfer. Or at least our alts on the same server.

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Originally Posted by Bright-Flower

SE should just let us add our own alts to our friends list.

This would allow us to make our alts tenants, as well as send our alts letters for gil/item transfer. Or at least our alts on the same server.

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This this this.

There's no real reason not to, seeing as you can trade to your alt via an FC chest anyway.

I think I once read that they don't want to let us friend alts because of RMT and bots.
And they also said a few years ago that they at least aren't actually against us having our alts as tenants. I don't remember where I heard that though.
It seems like they don't really have the technical means to make our alts tenants. Maybe the game can't really "link" our characters, like they are completely separate in-game?

But I also hope we can share our house with our alts soon!

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Originally Posted by Limonia

I think I once read that they don't want to let us friend alts because of RMT and bots.

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Yes I think that's why. But it's stupid. RMT & bots get around this anyway and all it does is hurt legitimate players. They need to let us friend our alts.

Either allow us to share our homes with all characters under the same account/world or let us have more than one house in-game.


It's absolutely unfair to deny alt characters the right to have their own houses, SE has ignored the issue far too long and it's time for them to resolve the problem.

You do realize we have a Housing forum, yes?

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

There's no real reason not to, seeing as you can trade to your alt via an FC chest anyway.

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Only if you have access to an FC chest (and you can trust the other people not to run off with your items while you're doing it!)

Another reason SE probably doesn't want to do it is because it might dent their monthly retainer sales which probably makes them a small fortune :(

Has this ever been addressed in the meantime? Or still only one house per account that is not even sharable with your alts?

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Originally Posted by selmon

Has this ever been addressed in the meantime? Or still only one house per account that is not even sharable with your alts?

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Still the same situation. Unable to share a house with your alts, just other players but few players are interested in being tenants when they potentially would lose any investment if the owner allowed the house to be demolished or could be removed at any time by the owner's whim.

SE said at the end of one of the pre-Shadowbringers publicity events or Live Letters (can't remember which now) it was something they would like to do because of the one personal house limitation per world but they had technical hurdles they would have to overcome first. What those hurdles are weren't specified and there's been no mention of it since.

You can still purchase an apartment for each of your characters, though. I put all my alts into the same apartment building so it's almost like they're sharing a house. Moving between "rooms" is simply clicking the door and selecting the alt's apartment.

There already is instanced housing, it's just not fleshed out in the same way the nieghbourhood system is. It should be more fleshed out.

As for alts? Yeah, I absolutely agree that this should be a thing. I realize you don't really NEED alts in FF14 but the game is almost painfully, specifically alt-unfriendly in ways it doesn't have to be.

To have our alts doing house chores, fishing, etc would be legendary! This is one of the best ideas I've ever read.

100/100!

I'm up for anything that would encourage having alts in general, so I'm all for this.

I wonder if the farm content in Endwalker will work as an alternative to personal housing?. That could solve the problem partially but still wouldn't be the same as house sharing.


Please Square-Enix, allow us to share the private property with every alternate character under the same world.


Apartments are far from being as good as having a personal house, having a yard and living in a neighborhood (ward) makes the house experience complete, something that apartments do not offer.

Oh man, that's sad :(

I agree, the game to me not only feels not encouraging me to play alts (which for me has always been great fun in other games) but on the contrary for me it seems to punish alts. I frankly didn't know it was that bad before I started - I thought you "only" couldn't make an alt a tenant of a different char's house. I didn't know you couldn't even buy a house with your alt at all if your main character already owns a house. Both things together are very, very unfortunate and I hope they will be addressed in the near future.

The same goes for not being able to trade between alts via mail system.

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Originally Posted by selmon

Has this ever been addressed in the meantime? Or still only one house per account that is not even sharable with your alts?

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The temporary FC purchase restriction was removed a week after it was added (so now it's back to any account can own 8 FC houses), but the personal restriction still remains (1 personal house per account per world).

They've not said anything about alts being able to use it either sadly.

They went out of their way to fix the glitch that used to exist that let you put your alts on your friendslist, I still have my alt on mine, but my 3rd character wasn't able to do it. I think that says everything, they clearly want alts to be an inconvenience.

Common SE, implement this wholesome feature! Your paying player-base or should I say customers rightfully requesting this feature.

wait cant you own multiple houses on one account? that's such a joke LOL

Let us have DC housing!

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Originally Posted by Lunalepsy

Let us have DC housing!

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I'm curious how you imagine that would work.
not as an against the idea. just curious, since DC travel being on board and all that.

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Originally Posted by GTK0HLK

I'm curious how you imagine that would work.
not as an against the idea. just curious, since DC travel being on board and all that.

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Sounds like a developer nightmare.
This is coming from a software dev

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Originally Posted by Sotaris

Sounds like a developer nightmare.
This is coming from a software dev

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not saying they should..,
I feel it's the same kinda issue like if housing went instanced all at once. per character.
which would create a lot more load.
<unless they made a good system>

just curious on that person's base idea for curiosity and speculation.

Implementation is a whe other beast none of us will truly wish for the devs to implement

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Originally Posted by GTK0HLK

<unless they made a good system>

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With this iteration of a decade old game engine, I wouldn't hold my breath.
I've said for years we need a new game engine cause it's obvious it's holding back the game from a technology pov. Especially when they keep saying they have a 10 year plan for the game.

I agree, letting alts be tenants with full rights to the house; decorating and all, would be a welcome change.

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Originally Posted by Sotaris

With this iteration of a decade old game engine, I wouldn't hold my breath.
I've said for years we need a new game engine cause it's obvious it's holding back the game from a technology pov. Especially when they keep saying they have a 10 year plan for the game.

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oh I know. once I put that as a question to the devs for a stream. course it was ignored.

in the end, it was still just a question for curiosity to just create conversation.

again, not implementation.

edit: then again, I did hear something how their going with their XIV engine, and something about it's connection to XVI. but ain't quite sure how it was.<something that allowed the planned upgrades to visuals, but obviously, taken with salt>

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Originally Posted by Sotaris

I've said for years we need a new game engine cause it's obvious it's holding back the game from a technology pov

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I would think if the were going to use a new game engine, they'd just create a new game.
There's a lot of advantages to doing that instead of updating FFXIV:

• FFXIV isn't subjected to the risk of major disruptions as they iron out the bugs
• people who prefer the old FFXIV engine get to keep using it
• A clean slate for the devs,
• two revenue streams for SE instead of just one

... and many more.
This was, after all, the strategy SE used (and is still using IIRC) for FFXI and FFXIV.

Of course, players of FFXIV most likely wouldn't be able to being their FFXIV assets and accomplishments into the new game, and would have to start from scratch. Some might complain about that, but having to preserve all those old assets and accomplishments is an extra complication for the devs, so I think the "sacrifice" is probably worth it.