Smart loot

I would love to see smart loot in this game, especially for 24 mans. What I mean by that is that gear will check which classes are present, so really just dps types, then adjust drop chances for loot in that instance to favor those classes more the more of them there are. I say this because doing current 24 mans a dozen or more times just to see 1 piece of gear for my casters is really burning me out.

On the other side of the coin, I really enjoy picking out the sly cute glam drop from various dungeons, and it really helps me out if its for none of the current classes in the dungeon. Equal greed chance and all that. A better way to fix your particular woe I think is to just guarantee a piece of loot for your class at the end of a dungeon as they do with the older ones.

That's fair Kukajoo, but in content that doesn't have an auto drop (like the 50/60/70/80 dungeons and alliance raids), smart loot would be greatly appreciated.

In the latter half of my post I detailed briefly that an auto drop in 50/60/70/80 dungeons would be better all around than a smart loot system

OH!
I misread your post. My bad.
Yeah, the auto drop is fab and I hope they lean more into it.
As is... I never wanna run Swallow's Compass again. Sure, I play a new role now and would love Bonewicca pieces for it, but I'm so burned out on it I can't bring myself to do it potentially endlessly...
Drowned City, Dun Scaith, there's a lotta shit I've run into the ground chasing glams that I'd do again if only they had some kind of guarantee more runs wouldn't be going into a tunnel with no light at the end.

they want you to keep farming. the point is to not make it easy for you to get what you want. if you get what you want you will leave earlier.

gotta keep you on dat drip!

Hmm... No.
There's such a thing as too much.
I only did what I did because I had a lot of free time during the beginning of the pandemic. Under normal circumstances the unacceptable grind is just that... unacceptable.

if you think it's too much then you just give up on it and you don't get what you want. simple as that. these forums aren't magical wish machines to make your lives easier, you need to get real as to the business side of things too.

In games where your character can only be 1 class, smart/class-specific loot drops makes a lot of sense. Unless SE also added a Loot Spec option where you could select which job you wanted to target the drops for, job-specific drops wouldn't always be desirable.

Honestly I would prefer SE ditched the Need/Greed/Pass as the default loot and just go for greed-only with either you getting or not getting loot automatically. One less dialog box to click through repeatedly.

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Originally Posted by EmmetOtter

Unless SE also added a Loot Spec option where you could select which job you wanted to target the drops for, job-specific drops wouldn't always be desirable.

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They would though with this system. It would be called, running the dungeon on the job you want loot for.

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Originally Posted by EmmetOtter

Honestly I would prefer SE ditched the Need/Greed/Pass as the default loot and just go for greed-only with either you getting or not getting loot automatically

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And, no. Sometimes ppl actually need a piece of gear that drops. I think a lot of us also run content on jobs we want the gear for just to help guarantee we get it. It would be infuriating to farm caster gear on a caster to have the drg get the 6 caster pieces that dropped when you only got the one at the end of the dungeon. This would also be a be burden to ppl leveling or just finishing a patch and needing dungeon gear as temp catch up pieces. A single click for need/greed is the least of the clicking woes this game has. A retainer click overhaul is much more sorely needed, as just a single example.

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Originally Posted by EmmetOtter

Honestly I would prefer SE ditched the Need/Greed/Pass as the default loot and just go for greed-only with either you getting or not getting loot automatically. One less dialog box to click through repeatedly.

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But we hae that for short while and everyone effin hated it. Or, at osasto enough people hated it. Myself included.

The problem with smart loot is that this game isn't class locked like most other MMOs. In any other game you're guaranteed to be running the dungeon on the class you want loot for, but that's not always the case here. People often run things on one job with the intent of gearing up another. Only being able to get loot for your current job would be a major turn off for a lot of people.

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Originally Posted by EmmetOtter

Honestly I would prefer SE ditched the Need/Greed/Pass as the default loot and just go for greed-only with either you getting or not getting loot automatically. One less dialog box to click through repeatedly.

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They tried that briefly back in SB but it was so universally hated that they removed it again almost immediately.

Should have posted back earlier, but I kinda forgot. I mainly really just want it in 24 mans, dungeons would also be nice, but I don't know if necessary. My driving force for this post is I'm now up to around 20 runs for Bunker and I've only seen 1 casting piece despite being on caster every single run, usually with at least one other caster in the party. It's really frustrating when I just want to increase my stats/get glamours I want for my main class and get nothing for over a month. If I was also a player that only played one class/role this would be even worse. I'm also not saying to just drop loot for the classes present, but I think it should favor them a lot more,

Another idea would be to have the option to turn 24 man pieces into tokens, then trade let's say 2 token for whatever piece you wanted. Means people who want it immediately will still grind, but people without the time to do so don't get completely screwed out of stuff.

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Originally Posted by Kukajoo

On the other side of the coin, I really enjoy picking out the sly cute glam drop from various dungeons, and it really helps me out if its for none of the current classes in the dungeon. Equal greed chance and all that. A better way to fix your particular woe I think is to just guarantee a piece of loot for your class at the end of a dungeon as they do with the older ones.

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This.

When a new expansion drops, this should be added all the old content that is now used for leveling.

How bout temp smart loot? It will be smart loot only while the weekly restrictions are in place. Then a few months from now when it goes back to normal loot, smart loot goes away. That way those needing the gear have a better chance at getting it. And those just wanting it for glams still have a chance to greed.

I loved the auto drop system for the majority of the leveling dungeons - I do wish it was true for all Pre-ShB dungeons such as 50/60/70, then have smart loot for everything else.

Update: I've crossed the 30 run mark. Still never once dropped the casting top.